Which online casino is the best + Invincible system to reveal

[ddarko]

win enough money to buy 5 PC's / laptops......

connect all via one keyboard......

Log on to say, 5 DIFFERENTLY owned "Playtech" live wheels.......

Play the 5 accounts at once from the one live wheel feed......

So, instead of playing £10,000 at one casino, play 5 X £2,000 at five different casinos......

Simples....

I guess that would be interesting to see WHEN each casino "cut's off" your marty.....



forgot to say, 5 different "playtech" casinos from 5 different groups of casino owners !!!!!

[steven1212]

Turner,

Thank you!

I do my best and when I write for my computer I will make more effort to write clearly and eloquently

Steven.

Your English seems pretty perfect to me down to punctuation. I'm English, and its better than mine....LoL

[steven1212]

Ddarko,

Thanks for sharing the link. Bet voyager could work since those limits would let me use a 10gpb unit size for about 2k profit a day or more. This is approximately the goal I set to myself.
I also love your idea of 5 computers and one keyboard. This is the kind of smart thinking I love. The casinos have taken too much money from us, time to get it all back!!!
But unfortunately it's a complicated option for me. Not because I can't buy 5ptops, but because I cannot open 5 accounts. The reason is that I live in france and Belgium and very few casinos allow us there. So I will need to use the identity of someone else to open an account in a legal country and that person will wire my earnings. But it's already a lot to ask to open a casino account for me, so I think 5 accounts would be out of the question...

Thanks for all your great input.

Steven.

[steven1212]

Atlantis,

I agree with all you said. I think there are fair casinos out there that will pay put your earning. Not afraid of that. What worries me is which casino will still want me as a client when they notice I win all the time. And now that I've got my grail, I want to be able to use on the long run.

Regarding your idea of 5 different accounts, I think it would slow down the inevitable ban, indeed. But like I explained to ddarko earlier, it's not easy for me to open casino accounts due to the legislation in my country of origin. And I can't a use of my friends if I want them to continue helping.
Also, look how worried I get about the legitimacy of one website. Just imagine if I had to deal with 5 companies... What a nightmare.

Thank you for all your precious help atlantis. It's much appreciated.

Steve

[steven1212]

SamNL,

Actually that's not too bad.
It would let use my system with 10gpb unit sizes and have at least five steps of grand martingale to prevent any loss from occurring.
You could play it all day long without losing and get a very decent income.
The only question that remain is, will they BV ban you or lower your limits when they notice what you've got going on...

If they have a daily earning limit though, maybe they are willing to let you win indefinitely as long as it stays within the limits of their liability...

What do you think Sam?

What about BetVoyager Live?
Limits on Dozens/Columns are 2-1200 or 1-600
BetVoyager does limit the amount u can win each day though.
link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=9987.msg87839#msg87839

[SamNL]

Steven, as far as I know Betvoyager doesn't block people that earn much money. But they do limit the amount u can withdraw from them each time if u constantly win huge amounts of money.

[steven1212]

Interesting. Thanks for your quick reply Sam, and the very valuable piece of information.
I would have to try them out to see how they react to my system on the long term, then. But so far, this is better than nothing!

Steven, as far as I know Betvoyager doesn't block people that earn much money. But they do limit the amount u can withdraw from them each time if u constantly win huge amounts of money.

[ausguy]

Steven1212 - To avoid the risk of losing posts, particularly longer ones, is to use Microsoft Word or similar where you can save/edit &/or write it up in parts hours/days later. It then becomes a simple transfer across to the Forum.

As to Paddy Power, I tried to sign up with them to check their limits but was blocked because OZ is one of many countries not allowed to have an account.

New Zealand is a country that is permitted so I put in a phony address over there but was still blocked. Obviously they have country of origin internet recognition.

So with that in mind it's interesting to see your mention of Buckingham Palace & therefore the UK as your address ? I see from your member details you list your origin country as Columbia but now it's France and Belgium ?  If any of these countries are on on the PP banned list then as you say you were travelling you must have been in a country that is accepted (Smart Phone etc.).

My experience with on line accounts is that to join up you can put in all the false details you like, deposit money, play & even win heaps of money but the problem would be getting the funds out. The ID conditions require proof of address from a number of angles as well as the deposit account must also link to your address. This all relates in to Global anti money laundering laws. To put in phony details would probably create a mismatched set of details & so they would block the release of funds. Like how would you prove you lived at Buckingham Palace ?

As to playing at Party Casino, they flag themselves as the Worlds largest on line casino. I don't think the amounts you are talking about would phase them.
You can bet in GBP or Dollars but whatever you start with you have to stay with, they won't let you change.

They have a rewards system (as well as Party points similar to frequent flyer etc.) that is graded from bronze level to platinum. It's all based on your play through amounts. The longer/more you bet over your play session(s) the higher the level you reach. Each level has a monthly withdraw limit. Bronze is 20,000, Silver 25,000, Gold 50,000, Platinum 100,000, Super Platinum 150,000.

With the party points they can be spent at the gift shop on things like clothing, watches, cameras, computers. The top reward is a Lamborgini which needs 750,000 pts = millions of pounds/dollars of play throughs. You can also get some "cash back" to add to your account. It's not of any great value as they prevent you from playing with it on the live dealer games, RNG only. 

As to live B & M casino play you would probably be OK using your program on Rapid Roulette (that's the game with touch sceen terminals & a live dealer spun wheel) ?
Naturally wherever you play you would always be recorded on their cameras. The Dozens & Columns have a $5 min. to $500 max. At the chip tables they ban people talking/using their phones at the table but don't seem too concerned if they walk a few metres away. I don't see much of a problem if you run your bet program away from the table then with the bet worked out then just walk up & lay your bet. Would probably work best at medium/busy periods where the spins are 2 - 3 minutes apart.

At my local casino Rapid Roulette has a cash out ticket system. Anything under 1k can be redeemed at the cash ticket machine. There's nothing to stop you from printing out a cash out ticket, if winning, below $1k over & over again.  Cashing out $1,000, casinos don't consider these amounts as significant especially when I've been lined up at the cashiers window & see many people cashing in numbers of $1,000 & $100 chips. What you never know is if they're picking up some profit or just cutting their losses & running ?

Over time, if your method of play is consistantly successful, the profits allow you to open & play at many different casinos (including B & M) at ever increasing minimum limits.

On line casinos always have records of your bets. There is a clause in their terms & conditions that they can cancel your account without having to give a reason. They have a bet analysis program. A few hundred per day probably wouldn't worry them ? A few thousand a day could ?

Theory is one thing but you're yet to "get it done". If successful the more you spread your plays the less likely you'll have to worry about the money tap turning off.

[ausguy]

Steven1212 - Just looking at your L5 Grand Marty Progression (GMP). Calc'ing it as units it's 1, 3, 7, 15, 31 = 57. So to play your game at any casino needs a min. max ratio(m/m/r) of 1 : 57.

For example at my local casino Rapid Roulette has a doz./col. $5 min & a $500 max. so m/m/r is 1 : 100 & so playable. At the $5 chip table The 2 : 1 bets are $10 min & $500 = m/m/r @ 1 : 50 & so only playable to L4.

So it shows that not every casino meets your progression needs.  As previously mentioned with Smart live the Dozen limits won't allow a level 5 GMP, whereas the columns will allow a GMP to L8.

I assume that your bet program quickly analyises the changing bet patterns as the game progresses. Doing it manually, while probably posssible, takes too long in relation to bet cycles & may have a higher error risk ?

As to casino payouts both Smart Live & Party have always coughed up the dollars. They always have a processing delay of around 3 business days. B & M casinos are best for payouts as it's lay down your chips or print out ticket & they deal out the cash. 

[ausguy]

Correction on Smart Live Dozen limit 5 to 500 is 1 : 100 so a L5 GMP is possible - sorry about that.

[amk]

Hello Steven,

Welcome to the forum.

Looking forward to reviewing your system and seeing were it leads.

Looks like it will be a very interesting thread.

Thanks in advance for sharing a method you feel is very valuable.

AMK

[Interstate89]

steven1212 you want to win the big ones but the casinos have payout limits. you need to check the casino-terms to see the limits. a playtech casino i use has 9000 per month withdraw limit.

you can win tens of thousands of dollars but you are not able to take it out in one withdraw.

[SamNL]

As to casino payouts both Smart Live & Party have always coughed up the dollars. They always have a processing delay of around 3 business days. B & M casinos are best for payouts as it's lay down your chips or print out ticket & they deal out the cash.

I have to disagree with u here Ausguy,
Smart Live is known to refuse payouts according to the CasinoMeister Rogue list.
link:://:.casinomeister.com/rogue/
But I don't see any problem with Party Casino

[steven1212]

Hello ausguy,

Thank you very much for this valuable piece of information regarding the casinos you use. It's exactly the kind of things we need to learn about in order to find a fair casino where we will be able to play the system I'm about to expose.

Only one problem in your analysis. You say that my progression is 1,3,7,15,31 and I wish it was, but unfortunately this is wrong as it would be the gmp for even chances. Remember that we are betting in two dozens. The gmp I use is 1-1, 4-4, 13-13, 40-40, 121-121. The ration needs to be 1:121.

There are very few land casinos that will allow you such table limits. For me it's not really a problem because in land casinos I would be comfortable to play the system with a three steps prog only. I don't do it for one reason. The only automatic table where I live had a 5-150 limit on dozens. That's not enough profit per unit for me. I don't want to play unit sizes under 10 GPB  anymore.

Cheers,
Steve

Steven1212 - Just looking at your L5 Grand Marty Progression (GMP). Calc'ing it as units it's 1, 3, 7, 15, 31 = 57. So to play your game at any casino needs a min. max ratio(m/m/r) of 1 : 57.

For example at my local casino Rapid Roulette has a doz./col. $5 min & a $500 max. so m/m/r is 1 : 100 & so playable. At the $5 chip table The 2 : 1 bets are $10 min & $500 = m/m/r @ 1 : 50 & so only playable to L4.

So it shows that not every casino meets your progression needs.  As previously mentioned with Smart live the Dozen limits won't allow a level 5 GMP, whereas the columns will allow a GMP to L8.

I assume that your bet program quickly analyises the changing bet patterns as the game progresses. Doing it manually, while probably posssible, takes too long in relation to bet cycles & may have a higher error risk ?

As to casino payouts both Smart Live & Party have always coughed up the dollars. They always have a processing delay of around 3 business days. B & M casinos are best for payouts as it's lay down your chips or print out ticket & they deal out the cash.

[steven1212]

Amk,

It's a pleasure to meet you here and welcome to this thread. The system I am about to propose will be dedicated to JL, atlantis and you. It couldn't have come to life without the three of you.
Not sure what I will call it yet. Code 1 million, or Code Victory would be fitting. But maybe a bit too arrogant....

Cheers,

Steven

Hello Steven,

Welcome to the forum.

Looking forward to reviewing your system and seeing were it leads.

Looks like it will be a very interesting thread.

Thanks in advance for sharing a method you feel is very valuable.

AMK