Which online casino is the best + Invincible system to reveal

[Turner]

Do we really believe that MM, Stoploss, and all the other post/pre betting strategies make any difference to a negative expectation game?

If we have the right bet selection then why do we have to manage money?. Surely the money will print its self flat bet

Progressions are an admission that the betselection doesnt work.

If we dont have the right bet selection, i.e. one that changes the odds, how can MM change the unfair payout?.

I already asked this and I dont expect a real answer the second time, let alone the first.....apart from CHT. He seems to have things in perspective

Some loonie comes in here and promises a new sticking plaster that sticks better than any other and everyone flocks round and believes it.

I dont get it

[cht]

Do we really believe that MM, Stoploss, and all the other post/pre betting strategies make any difference to a negative expectation game?

If we have the right bet selection then why do we have to manage money?. Surely the money will print its self flat bet

Progressions are an admission that the betselection doesnt work.

If we dont have the right bet selection, i.e. one that changes the odds, how can MM change the unfair payout?.

I already asked this and I dont expect a real answer the second time, let alone the first.

Some loonie comes in here and promises a new sticking plaster that sticks better than any other and everyone flocks round and believes it.

I dont get it

Betselection with positive net outcome still faces periods of negative volatile variance.

This requirement of MM is more for betselection whose expected variance is large.

Where the betselection does not show significant variance no matter how volatile the spin sequence, then MM is not required.

MM does not change the odds, neither does it change a net negative outcome betselection, it will lose eventually.

I noticed that there's this overwhelming opinion that net positive betselection does not exist and rightly so.

My question to you is -

Why then do you continue to gamble since you already know that you will lose eventually ?
Why hand over your hard earned money to the casino ?

[Madi]

Why after his depart? No one stand against him when he was here. When everyone knows very well that only mm cant take u to the pick. And some people seems to me never seen mm. Try lankys divisor or retirement stalking plan. A modified version can stand 80 loses back to back while his one cant even stand 30 loses in a row

[Madi]

Its not a big issue that his system doesnt work the issue  was he asked people to knee down infront of him and beg for his system and apologize.while it is not even worth to try.

[celescliff]

If anyone wants to try this one out for themselves, I coded the Line bet he did a couple of pages ago, with the MM he uses in the example.

It works when it works, but most of the time it goes up and down, up and further down and so on.

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system "StevenMMLine"

method "main"
begin
    While Starting a New Session
    begin
       call "init"
    end

    While on Each Spin
    begin
       put 100% of bankroll to record "starting bankroll" data
       track last Street patterns for 2 spins to record "patterns" layout
    end
   
    call "bet"

    call "win/lost"

    if record "wins" data = 5
    begin
        call "init"
    end
end

method "win/lost"
begin
    if any line bet has won each time
    begin
        add 1 to record "wins" data
        return
    end
    if any line bet has lost each time
    begin
        call "init"
    end
end

method "bet"
begin
    // line 1-6
    If List[Street(1-3), Street(1-3)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    If List[Street(1-3), Street(4-6)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    If List[Street(4-6), Street(4-6)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    If List[Street(4-6), Street(1-3)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    // line 7-12
    If List [Street(7-9), Street(7-9)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    If List [Street(7-9), Street(10-12)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    If List [Street(10-12), Street(10-12)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    If List [Street(10-12), Street(7-9)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    // line 13-18
    If List [Street(13-15), Street(13-15)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    If List [Street(13-15), Street(16-18)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    If List [Street(16-18), Street(16-18)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    If List [Street(16-18), Street(13-15)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    // line 19-24
    If List [Street(19-21), Street(19-21)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    If List [Street(19-21), Street(22-24)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    If List [Street(22-24), Street(22-24)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    If List [Street(22-24), Street(19-21)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    // line 25-30
    If List [Street(25-27), Street(25-27)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    If List [Street(25-27), Street(28-30)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    If List [Street(28-30), Street(28-30)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    If List [Street(28-30), Street(25-27)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(31-36)
    end
    // line 31-36
    If List [Street(31-33), Street(31-33)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
    end
    If List [Street(31-33), Street(34-36)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
    end
    If List [Street(34-36), Street(34-36)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
    end
    If List [Street(34-36), Street(31-33)] has a pattern match to Record "patterns" layout
    begin
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(1-6)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(7-12)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(13-18)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(19-24)
        put 100% of record "bet/line" data Line(25-30)
    end
   
end

method "init"
begin
        put 0 on record "wins" data
        put 0 on record "lost" data
        put 0 on record "bet/line" data
        put 100% of bankroll to record "starting bankroll" data
        divide 5 record "starting bankroll" Data
        put 100% of record "starting bankroll" data to record "attack" data
        divide 5 record "attack" data
        put 100% of record "attack" data to record "bet/line" data
        multiply 5 to record "attack" data
        put 100% of record "attack" data to record "attack" data
        multiply 5 to Record "starting bankroll" Data
        put 100% of record "starting bankroll" data Record "starting bankroll" data
end



[Rewster88]

almost correct, the bet should not increase direcly after a win but first hit the target of 5 wins (betting 5 ds) So needs to win 5 times before its recalculated. Also after a loss it keeps betting this same DS , i think its better to reset and find a new DS.

Tnx alot!

R

[Taotie]

Not sure, but I think I just come back to the forum to read the arguments.

Where did it all go so wrong lol

[RouletteGhost]

Jim Carrey used to be my idol and favorite actor

Watch his recent interviews

Hes lost it. he’s also deleted his funny website

He had some sort of spiritual awakening

From the research I’ve done he has all the markings of a DMT trip

[celescliff]

almost correct, the bet should not increase direcly after a win but first hit the target of 5 wins (betting 5 ds) So needs to win 5 times before its recalculated. Also after a loss it keeps betting this same DS , i think its better to reset and find a new DS.

Tnx alot!

R

Thanks but the code should recalculate after five wins and when i looked at the example he gave, it doesent appear he's betting on the same line after a loss.

[celescliff]

The code was just a demonstration of how the mm would work out though.  The bs is crap.

I think the mm is quite good though.

[psimoes]

IMPO if one talks about The Math, (not simple arithmetics), negative expectation, standard deviation, independence of outcomes and all that, then there can not even be such a thing as "Bet Selection"! At that level of reasoning, it is as meaningless as MM is pointless. Mechanical BS has no edge.

[Turner]

Why then do you continue to gamble since you already know that you will lose eventually ?
Why hand over your hard earned money to the casino ?

I dont. I did when I didnt get it. I get it now
Its a game. The game of roulette.
I go to the casino with the wife and risk no more than £40. We go for a curry and eat no more than £40. We go to a pub and drink no more than £40.
Its my "take it or leave it" amount of money.
I try to play in a way that keeps me in the game (theres that word again...game) for a few hours. I often do ok. I often do wonderfully. I sometimes lose but never before I was ready to leave anyhow.

Too many people throw their life and earnings into Roulette without knowing anything about the maths.
I get it. Thats why I enjoy it

[celescliff]

IMPO if one talks about The Math, (not simple arithmetics), negative expectation, standard deviation, independence of outcomes and all that, then there can not even be such a thing as "Bet Selection"! At that level of reasoning, it is as meaningless as MM is pointless. Mechanical BS has no edge.

And I agree. I stated before that mm is virtualy useless. When he claim that he withdrew 50-140k using this system, i didnt see a reason not to code the system that took less than an hour for fun.

He lied.

[psimoes]

Didn´t Latourrette Steven mention he used the MM for football only? He was/is convinced his MM would work with roulette as well. He might have an edge in football betting, but roulette is different...

[cht]

I dont. I did when I didnt get it. I get it now
Its a game. The game of roulette.
I go to the casino with the wife and risk no more than £40. We go for a curry and eat no more than £40. We go to a pub and drink no more than £40.
Its my "take it or leave it" amount of money.
I try to play in a way that keeps me in the game (theres that word again...game) for a few hours. I often do ok. I often do wonderfully. I sometimes lose but never before I was ready to leave anyhow.

Too many people throw their life and earnings into Roulette without knowing anything about the maths.
I get it. Thats why I enjoy it

The questions were not directed at you personally but the rhetorical you as in everybody.

I don't wish to offend and other people on the forum but almost ALL system bet posted fail, they don't have net positive edge.

On this thread I posted an excel sheet of Atlantis ADD system. I knew it failed when I coded it a while back. My purpose is to show to people with proper code simulation, you will see for yourself that it fails.

Again I'm not taking a knock on this particular system but this applies to ALL systems posted on this forum, that's the truth.

Simple reason, roulette is a negative expectation game, with unfair payout.

You can accept this math truth or you can waste your money, time and life thinking otherwise. Your choice.