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Started by steven1212, Jan 31, 01:39 PM 2014

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celescliff

Quote from: psimoes on Oct 04, 03:03 AM 2017
Didn´t Latourrette Steven mention he used the MM for football only? He was/is convinced his MM would work with roulette as well. He might have an edge in football betting, but roulette is different...

Quote from: steven1212 on Oct 03, 04:13 AM 2017
With this system i have been withdrawing between 50 and 140K per month from betfair

cht

Quote from: psimoes on Oct 04, 02:20 AM 2017
IMPO if one talks about The Math, (not simple arithmetics), negative expectation, standard deviation, independence of outcomes and all that, then there can not even be such a thing as "Bet Selection"! At that level of reasoning, it is as meaningless as MM is pointless. Mechanical BS has no edge.
There's only a very, very tiny exception to this universal truth.

If the probability of something happening in the future is high enough that can overcome the unfavourable odds.

That's like searching a needle in the haystack for some probability which is proven by extensive simulation that it does overcome the odds. This condition must be universal, meaning it works the same at all wheels.

Now tell me what it takes to achieve such a finding ?

This will need someone who is competent in math/stats to properly validate the model, a quant interested to crack this roulette negative expectation game who is willing to spend effort and time to devise new frontier math model whose purpose is for intellectual conquest more than mere monetary gains - not the normal me and you.

kingmaq

Lol. What'happening here?
Did you fight with Steven ? I find this guy cool... he is damn fucking sure that his method wins, why doesn't he then play roulette ? Apparently he likes this game, otherwise he wouldn't stay logged in all the time.

Roulette is a fucked devil game .
Without good bet selection you can't win, sure MM is important but it won't work without good prediction.



denzie

Negative this...negative that....

Did everyone forgot how TG showed how the HE was gone ? 37 people walk into a casino. Each have their own number.

Method 1: they all start betting from spin 1 non stop. The outcome : they lost as a group exactly at the HE

Method 2 : they only start to bet once their number showed. The outcome : The HE was gone. They break even as a group.

Think about that !!!!
:girl_to:

FLATBET
As spins roll off our predictions get better

kingmaq


kingmaq

As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality.

Albert Einstein.



Roulette is chaotic game, so beat it with the Chaos theory

psimoes

Quote from: cht on Oct 04, 03:22 AM 2017
There's only a very, very tiny exception to this universal truth.

If the probability of something happening in the future is high enough that can overcome the unfavourable odds.

That's like searching a needle in the haystack for some probability which is proven by extensive simulation that it does overcome the odds. This condition must be universal, meaning it works the same at all wheels.

Now tell me what it takes to achieve such a finding ?

This will need someone who is competent in math/stats to properly validate the model, a quant interested to crack this roulette negative expectation game who is willing to spend effort and time to devise new frontier math model whose purpose is for intellectual conquest more than mere monetary gains - not the normal me and you.
Unless there is some kind of Advantage Play involved, I can´t agree with that.  The probablities, like the odds in Roulette, never change. Nothing is "due". Unfortunately.
[Math+1] beats a Math game

Madi

@denzie
If u lose a Session  whats ur maximum drawdown using $25 chip as minimum.

cht

Quote from: psimoes on Oct 04, 04:01 AM 2017
Unless there is some kind of Advantage Play involved, I can´t agree with that.  The probablities, like the odds in Roulette, never change. Nothing is "due". Unfortunately.
I can accept your perspective, I respect that.

Unless there's actual proof on either side of the divide, nothing is certain. Fact is in the absence of proof everything else is speculation.

The only certainty is on which side of the divide do each one of us stand. That guides our thoughts, mindset, beliefs, actions...

kingmaq

Quote from: psimoes on Oct 04, 04:01 AM 2017
Unless there is some kind of Advantage Play involved, I can´t agree with that.  The probablities, like the odds in Roulette, never change. Nothing is "due". Unfortunately.


WRONG!!!!!!!

There is one thing for sure is gonna happen :

After x number of spins, the wheel will be saturated... what does that mean ?

That means simply every number will reach the 33,33% percentage.
Every dozen will reach the 33,3% percentage.
Every column will reach the 33,3% hit percentage.

You know what we should do ?
We should know what is the Minimum amount of spins needed for this phenomenon to occur and then exploit it. You got it ?

psimoes

CHT,

I personally draw a line between "serious" Roulette and "fun" Roulette. Now I only play for fun, with play money. Sometimes I shift the line towards serious mode to back up my fun play with a little math. In the end it´s still fun mode, doesn´t get any more serious just because. There´s no positive expectation.

[Math+1] beats a Math game

psimoes

Quote from: kingmaq on Oct 04, 04:22 AM 2017

WRONG!!!!!!!

There is one thing for sure is gonna happen :

After x number of spins, the wheel will be saturated... what does that mean ?

That means simply every number will reach the 33,33% percentage.
Every dozen will reach the 33,3% percentage.
Every column will reach the 33,3% hit percentage.

You know what we should do ?
We should know what is the Minimum amount of spins needed for this phenomenon to occur and then exploit it. You got it ?
Good luck with that.
No matter what thoughts and efforts one puts into the game, it always boils down to this: it´s 37 numbers, but each time you win they pay you 36. It´s the ultimate truth. Rarely one sees its real implications when still in plus...
[Math+1] beats a Math game

cht

Quote from: psimoes on Oct 04, 04:38 AM 2017
CHT,

I personally draw a line between "serious" Roulette and "fun" Roulette. Now I only play for fun, with play money. Sometimes I shift the line towards serious mode to back up my fun play with a little math. In the end it´s still fun mode, doesn´t get any more serious just because. There´s no positive expectation.
On my side, the last time I played serious roulette was a decade ago, I lost serious money(6digits) on system bets just like the ones posted on this forum, I was stupid and stubborn then. I don't play fun mode.

I came back to look at roulette for serious play from the time I joined this forum ie. May

During this time, I have not played any real money except for test purpose because I haven't establish with confidence that the systems I tested have positive expectation.

In the plenty that I've tested so far, all fail eventually with the exception of 2 whose test is still on-going, meaning the results still hold up till now. Atm I don't know if either will eventually confirm net positive that might lead to serious money play. There are practical issues to deal with. It may likely come to nought and that's no surprise. That will also end my current efforts.

denzie

Quote from: psimoes on Oct 04, 04:46 AM 2017

No matter what thoughts and efforts one puts into the game, it always boils down to this: it´s 37 numbers, but each time you win they pay you 36. It´s the ultimate truth. Rarely one sees its real implications when still in plus...

Method 2.... look above !
As spins roll off our predictions get better

denzie

Quote from: kingmaq on Oct 04, 04:22 AM 2017

WRONG!!!!!!!

There is one thing for sure is gonna happen :

After x number of spins, the wheel will be saturated... what does that mean ?

That means simply every number will reach the 33,33% percentage.
Every dozen will reach the 33,3% percentage.
Every column will reach the 33,3% hit percentage.

You know what we should do ?
We should know what is the Minimum amount of spins needed for this phenomenon to occur and then exploit it. You got it ?

So basically your saying it all balance in time. If one selection is behind. ..start betting it ?

Gonna need loooooots of coffee and/or partners
As spins roll off our predictions get better

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