I'm really liking this visual ballistic

[Steve]

pm photo if you can, maybe I can tell you what I know about it

The rotor does 1/4 revolution in 18 seconds? Thats barely moving

[Steve]

if you want speed in pockets per second, speed = distance/time = 9 / 18 = 0.5 pockets per second.

So in 18s, wheel moves 18 x 0.5 = 9 pockets

[Roulettebeater]

The rotor does 1/4 revolution in 18 seconds? Thats barely moving

Thx

[Roulettebeater]

Steve

If you know the Wheel Direction, Ball launch Point,  and exit point (where Ball leaves the track) as well as the total spin time, will you be able to estimate the rotor speed ?

Yes or no ?

[Bebediktus3]

I don't think it's necessary to bet on a lot of numbers. Typically I only bet a corner and a street or double street and a split.

If to think this way - then best is to bet one number  . But that is not right.
It is possible accordingly data to calculate the optimal amount of numbers. And if you bet not that optimum no matter to which side you will get a worse result. Here is the same as with Kelly bet - are some special amount which gives fastest grow of bankroll.

The only advantage in betting more numbers is it reduces your variance.

Too much is not good, the same as too small, so if not do calculations - not know if more is better or worse.
Accordingly mine calculations when playing about 200 spins best variant is to bet 7-14 numbers. But I repeat that is for those, who know what they do.

[Firefox]

It's also a question of practicality though. You've only 2 seconds or so to get bets down unless playing touch bet and I've not seen touch bet allow betting that late. Many close before the spin entirely.

So I'm happy with a corner and a street for 7 or a double line and a split for 8.

[The General]

It would be pretty hard to maintain much of an edge betting corners.  You must really like to grind out the wins.   There are just too many random numbers within the bet.
There is an optimum width of numbers or dual bet to make on every wheel, and then there's the best bet that you can make when playing live so as to not give away what it is that you're actually doing at the wheel.  I like a sector bet with gaps in it.

A predict land scatter plot over a few hundred to a thousand spins will indicate the ideal width.  In order to win the most you want to bet more numbers than fewer.   The edge for the 12 wide arc is only slightly lower than the edge for the five wide arc, but the unit gain per spin is much higher.  Contrary to popular believe among some players, the edge does NOT determine the optimum width of the betting arc.  The predict land distribution should indicate the best width.

My view and experience with scatter is that shorter is almost always best ,except for the "pulling points" and "compensating" hit points.  I suspect that's what Steve and Firefox are partially trying to convey as well.

[Bebediktus3]

You've only 2 seconds or so to get bets down unless playing touch bet and I've not seen touch bet allow betting that late.

Bet itself takes from me 1.2 sec. But I play where are a race track. If are no race track - can be problems...

So I'm happy with a corner and a street for 7 or a double line and a split for 8.

But never will bet streets or corners - this way you do worst thing maybe bet number with negative expectation...

[Firefox]

But never will bet streets or corners - this way you do worst thing maybe bet number with negative expectation...

I don't bet random corners or streets or splits.  For example 7,8,10,11 corner is closely packed in a certain area. All my corners and streets are carefully selected so that the numbers are within 8 or 9 pockets max of my prediction. Agreed most corners and streets are useless for this, they are spread over the whole wheel.

I wouldn't overlook corner or street bets. You can place 4  units on a corner or 1 unit on the 4 numbers. It all comes to the same thing in the end. Except the corner is quicker to place, which is crucial.

Can use racetrack/neighbours but that combined with late betting and wins telegraphs what you may be doing and it's easy for them to stop. Far more important to stay discreet.

[Roulettebeater]

Firefox

U can’t win by placing bets on corner
No body told you yet that Layout bets are for screwed losers ?

[Firefox]

A corner bet carries the same odds as a straight up bet on a number. -2.7% before other factors are taken into consideration.

Other examples 7,8,9 street for a prediction of 20 or 33. 0,3,2 street for a prediction of 4 or 15.

These all nicely straddle the prediction. It doesn't really matter what bets you place as long as you don't bet in the shadow, they'll be positive expectation bets.

I like to play lower profile wheels with a wide scatter. For these wheels the shadow is around where the number the DD hits. Say the ball comes off around 26 then the prediction is 10  and the likely area is 6 to 22. 22,23,24 street and 27/30 split should all be positive expectation bets. So long as bets are not placed in the shadow from about 28 to 4, it should be fine. And I only need to be right 3 times out of 5 for a few percent edge.

[Roulettebeater]

Once again, if you plan long term, there is no chance that something like that will work

[The General]

Once again, if you plan long term, there is no chance that something like that will work

Roulettebeater,

On the 00 wheel there are even column bets that can be advantageous with VB.

And yes, certain corners could provide a seasoned player a slight edge with quality predictions on the single zero wheel.  But it would be quite a grind.

[Firefox]

Number or layout bets are the only kinds of bets which can ever work for advantage play. Even chances can never work. Columns or dozens are no good for European wheel.

I never looked at US wheel as I never play it, but a column/dozen may work if there is sufficient break in the sequence say 7 numbers to fit a shadow. Only for a specific strike point though.

[Bebediktus3]

I don't bet random corners or streets or splits.

I perfectly understand what you do, but this still does worse for your edge. If you have a huge edge and want that casino not will pay to you attention - maybe have logic do how you do, but me not have such big edges.
And at all I have such opinion - first win and only after worry that you will notice. I play 20 years and still not notice such big attention that will do something other