casino software identifies the system we use and will make loss

[srichennai]

first of all i am beginner. so i used maritingale and lossed 40000 inr ( 675$) from the last 4 months..... so i had purchased some systems. all the systems are working fine. but the casino software identifies the system i use and it will make loss suddenly. The system will not work after 1 or 2 days. for example

my deposit amount 10000 inr
my target 1500 inr

so i started playing european roulette @ dafabet and indio casino

1st day i win 1500
2nd day i win 1500

3rd day i loss 3500   (so i stopped here to stop loss @ 1000)

4th day i win 1500

5th day i lost 2500

like this i am not able to take profit.

and i am playing in rng not live

systems i used was martingale, fisher, beat roulette

there is no matter what system you are using. the casino software will not allow you to win more than 5 - 10% of your deposit. i think there is a program to make player  a loss after that %. am i correct or it happens only  to me?

need suggestions and help.

and i also found roulettehowtowin

i need suggestions on that also..

[vladir]

All those systems you talk about lose on the long term...
I advise you to study and test them more properly, before investing any more money in roulette.

[srichennai]

thanks vladir....

is 2-3 days by playing 20-40 mins per day is long run for roulette?

[vladir]

Eh... Sorry, 20-40 min for 3 days is 60 to 120 minutes. With a spin /minute, you will get about 60 to 120 spins... Thats not "long run" in any way...


You have lots of files here in this forum with hundreds of series of real spins. Grab some and test your systems with them. Or just use a random generator to generate series of numbers. You should test a system for , let's say, at least 100.000 spins... Of course to do that, manually is a daunting task, so you will have to use some kind of automation to go through so much spins... But it's worth doing it, before investing your money in a system that most probably, will not work...

[ignatus]

I have won real money on RNG; 1000 SEK (@Eurogrand) so i don't believe RNG can be blamed, with a poor strategy you will lose, it's not rng's fault..

[vladir]

I have won real money on RNG; 1000 SEK (@Eurogrand) so i don't believe RNG can be blamed, with a poor strategy you will lose, it's not rng's fault..

I agree with ignatus here, I have also won ( and lost) many times. If you have a bad system, you will be completly in the hands of random and luck.  And by the way, I have also been paid by all casinos in wich I played. Only once my winnings were  removed, because I didn't comply with one of the rules of their bonuses. So another advice here if you play online is, if you accept any bonus, make sure to read and comply with the bonus requirements.

[srichennai]

after losing my 1000$ now i had a system which won my 1000$ lost + 600$ profit till now. now i understand rng roulette. according to me each spin is not independent in rng. now i have system to fight with rng and it gives profits. 

[vladir]

Hi,

Why you say that spins are not independent? What makes you believe that?

[ausguy]

sri - by Indian standards you are a rich man if you've had $1,000 to lose. You are even rich if you can own a computer & have the internet.
Save yourself some money & put your plays on hold & do some HOMEWORK on RNG play & forum members opinion, both for & against. While RNG is attractive due to the low limits this may not be the total answer to regular profits ?
You don't say what type of play you do ? Inside betting or 2 : 1 dozen/column or even chance 1 : 1 positions Red/Black Odd/Even etc. ?

Have you considered live dealer on line play. Paddy Power casino has a very wide set of table limits. Even on the outside 1 : 1 bets go from $1 to $12,000 & I'm not sure what the inside minimum is ? Some other live dealer casinos include Dublin bet, Party Casino. There's plenty of others. Some countries have account blocks & I'm not sure if India has freedom ?  Can you tell us if you are restricted ? Are there any live real chip casinos in your area or in India ?

Using search up top of this page near the home logo type in "CHEATING RNG SOFTWARE" to start with, then follow on from that. Also look down on the home page menu & look at links to RNG play. Also worthwhile MM (money management) progressions, staking/bankroll (too little $$$$ can = bust vs. would have won with a "fatter wallet", bet selection, real roulette spins for testing. Overall there's hundreds of topics & thousands of posts.

As others have warned be wary of casino bonuses, nearly always they have play through conditions like x35 or x40 your bonus amount as well as often having bet place restrictions on the amount of numbers bet. With your money up to 35 numbers (37 if you want lose money) but using theirs they might only allow 15 bet numbers. In short they make it nearly impossible to win as they change the odds to about 60/40 their way. So if you took a $100 bonus (your own money is not figured in the bonus plays), then you have to have had $3,500 played through the account (wins & losses totalled).

That means the wins & losses are added up. Lose & that's game over & then it's your money allowed for the normal non bonus plays. If you are still "alive" in the bonus stage, then what's in the a/c balance should be yours to withdraw. A careful read of the casinos T & C's (terms & conditions) is always worthwhile. Always somewhere in the T & C's is the fact that they can even ban you from playing without needing to give a reason & also can ban computer robot (bot) betting.

Also of high importance is testing, testing & more testing. As the old saying goes "failing to prepare is preparing to fail", Good luck with it all.

[srichennai]

thanks for the reply.

First here what i done on roulette :

At first i saw a video on youtube which states to play roulette with martingale betting system. before i saw this video i dont know anything about roulette. after that i signed up on online casino and started play roulette with 100$ this is my first investment on roulette. i will play for profit of 10% of my bankroll and i will stop. i will play daily for 10% profit. it given me 10% profit for 2-3 days after one sudden day i lost all my 130% in less than 5 mins. then i contacted the person who uploaded the video and said what happened to me. he never replied.

second :

then i start search about martingale system. i found some other systems like almbert etc.. this time i started to play with 250$ and all the systems failing in less than 1 week and my bank roll comes to 0.


Third :

this time i started to play with 150$ by mixing all the systems not playing only specific system. this time it had given me 10$ profit for more than 20 - 25 days after that this also fails. on this point only i had seen this forum. i get nice tips and i found that rng is cheating and it is rigged. at this point i started playing in live roulettes with 200$ and it is also given me 10% profit for less than 10 days and i got my bankroll again 0.( i got 17 blacks in a row in live roulette). at this point i try to play a new system which i had not seen anywhere. with 300$ now i had won my lost 7000$ + 800$ profit till now.

[srichennai]

i say the spins are not independent all the time becoz you can see 25 consecutive blacks or 15 consecutive reds. and a dozen will sleep for even 150 spins. this type of un common results will come when you play some type of betting systems only. it will not come normally when you spin without betting.

and in my knowledge i can able to get a number double times ex. 15,23,17,4,4,2,1,19,36,36 like this in playtech european roulette.

[srichennai]

so why i played with this much of money. i am not a rich man i am still a middle class but i send in roulette becoz i trust the following thing in my life not only for roulette for all the things happens in my life.

the thing is :

every action has an equal and opposite reaction in few days or months but not years( according to me)

so i got losses for 4-5 months so i trusted i will get profit for net 4 - 5 months.

now i am getting profit for last 3 months.

i had attached my latest winnings and roulette history with this post.

you can see it. now i am getting 7-8 wins per 10 bets.

[srichennai]

now for the system i am using now:

after fighting with roulette for five months both rng and live. i dont find any difference between both for long term(according to me). so i decided to play in rng only becoz it gives results fast whether win or loss.

and i also found that no betting system will win regularly for long term.

but in this stage i can able to predict some outcomes of the software when playing some betting systems.

so i came to conclusion

only random will beat random number generators so i will play randomly not following any betting system or any style or same bet amount or betting on sleeping nos or hot nos etc....

so i play randomly.

and one more thing i will play on sleeping double streets.

till now for last 3 months i had not lost my bank roll and i am making more than 10% daily.

and i will follow random in profits also. 1 day 10% other day 15% other day 75% like that.

but the only thing ni am following now is stop loss at 25 - 30% of my bank roll per session. this is happening to me once in 10 days or 2 weeks in one session only.


thanks to roulette forum.cc it helped me lot.

and sorry for bad english  i am not so good in it.

[ausguy]

sri - Indio casino seems to have links to BetVoyager (BV) operators. Both operate out of Netherlands Antilles (dutch territory) just Nth. of the Sth. American mainland in the Carribean. Their graphics look to have a common link ? Both are RNG games & I don't play them but know about BV as there's been lots of discussion here on CC about that casino in the past. Go up top to "search" for plenty of BV posts.

BV may be worth looking at sri as they have NO ZERO 36 number roulette & some type of randomness fairness control that can be checked as you play. The BV site has info. on that.
On any win withdraws they take a 10% cut, so you get 90%. It pays to read their terms & rules so you know how they operate with no sudden upsetting surprises about your money. Conversion to & from USD/INR should not be a problem with International debit/credit cards and other listed money traders ? As always a small fee is charged.

Indio caters for Indian players (a country of around 1.24 billion people). As living standards there improve & so more money in more peoples pockets, it's a huge market.

Your doing OK with your English sri. Practice makes perfect as the saying goes. Remember to check your spelling, like becoz should be because. Capital to start after a full stop & i by itself should be I at a sentence start & also within a sentence. Space all things like brackets away from any word/letter. Don't start any sentence with "but", "and" & such sentence link words.

It's only over time that you will know if playing RNG is a long term winner. Also try some play at Party Casino (PC) live dealer to compare (you'd need to sign up but that's free). Play rates are $ & UK/Euro (nil direct INR). Inside min. 1 to 250 per number, outside bets min. 2 to 2,000 all 1 : 1 & 2 : 1 positions.
There is another live dealer table with a 5 minimum. The spins are about 64 per hour 24/7 & they only spin in 1 direction. Their dealers change every 1/2 hour. PC claims it's the largest on line casino in the world ? They also have RNG & heaps of other games.

One "trick" you could benefit from sri with PC is currency leverage. I later found this out as when I signed up & I went with UK GBP as I didn't see that they had other currency options. After playing for many months I tried to change to AUD (OZ dollars) but was blocked. Their rules say that what currency a player starts the a/c with then has to always stay with. So sure it costs a lot more to get your BR (bankroll) to your play level but the big bonus is the extra amount you get back on any wins.

Here's an example of what a win COULD give you & I in both AUD money & INR money via a 500 GBP BR. (it won't be exact due to the small % transaction fee & the ever changing exchange rates but near enough to get the idea). I use my debit Mastercard for transactions but they have a lot of other choices. They've always paid out in 3 - 4 business days on any withdraws.

AUD  $ rate abt .54 GBP. So about $926 AUD needed for 500 GBP BR into my casino a/c bal. Win 1,000 GBP a/c bal. Then 1,500 GBP total a/c bal.
Withdraw 1,000 back to my OZ a/c = $1,852 AUD = BR money + 100% profit PLUS I still have 500 GBP in my casino a/c to try for more wins & profit ?
Another option would be to take it all out for 200% profit, but then nothing would be left to play some more & maybe win more money ?

For you INR rate .00998 GBP or 1 GBP = 100.20 INR. So 500 GBP would need about 50,100 INR. Win 1,000 GBP then it's 100,200 INR back to your a/c for BR back + 100% profit & still 500 GBP in your PC play a/c. Naturally deposits can be a lot lower, my Mastercard has a minimum of $15 on any transfer. It can be anywhere between that & $50,000. PC has stepped monthly withdraw limits @ $20,000, $25,000 & $50,000 depending on your bet playthroughs. They also have high roller $100k plus levels & other stuff like play points & a shop with watches, computers & even a Lamborghini sports car (that would need $$$$ millions of bets & win to earn that).

Happy hunting sri.

[srichennai]

Thanks you so much ausguy. You know any tools to create proggressions?