Supa Dupa Random Streets Bet

[Turner]

Im glad you agree Stephen...

To be honest, there is no probability edge at all with these ideas. its only my view, but saying something that just happened wont happen again is asking for trouble. Its like a giant red button with a sign saying "dont touch the button" Some one will.

John Legend used to say "will trick random...will give random a task it isnt good at....will ask random to do something it cant"

Its fantasy.

[Turner]

Any how, people here are enjoying this post, and its irritating when some one like me just keeps saying "it wont work"

Its best to find out for yourself

[SpinASequence]

Thanks for your input and your the testings fellow members. Much appreciated!

I am flat betting. I don't like progressions for the reasons you have alluded to. It will go bust eventually. I don't really like betting odds on, that is, 1/2.

I must be getting lucky because I am hitting a lot of first bets. 10 to 20 units is my goal.

What about if we made it a fifty/fifty bet and used Chris's foolproof progression?

We can split House 1. Incidentally House 1 is the only one to contain 2 red and 2 black!

We can use the 4 SET and add 10-11-12 and 28-29-30 to it. Bet is still easy to place because the first number is BLACK.

We can use the 7 SET and add 1-2-3 and 19-29-21 to it. Bet is still easy to place because the first number is RED.

Tried it on Betfair. Results went

4-7-4
7-7-4 W
4-4-4 W
7-4-7 W
4-4-7 W
7-7-4 W
4 7-4 W

No where near enough testing but may have potential.

I am more of a straight up bettor. Therefore I bow to your greater experience of this kind of bet. Any comments and suggestions greatly received and appreciated!

Cheers!

SAS

[steven1212]

I like that you are flat betting. It makes sense and it is much less risky.

But I think I prefer 2:1 bets than 1:1. On the long run, the result will be the same. If you make the average of all your placed bets, with 2:1 you will win 2 bets our of 3, and with 1:1 every other bet. For me who likes to play hit and run I will reach my target faster with 2:1 than 1:1. I avoid being around when bad things go down!

Thanks for your input and your the testings fellow members. Much appreciated!

I am flat betting. I don't like progressions for the reasons you have alluded to. It will go bust eventually. I don't really like betting odds on, that is, 1/2.

I must be getting lucky because I am hitting a lot of first bets. 10 to 20 units is my goal.

What about if we made it a fifty/fifty bet and used Chris's foolproof progression?

We can split House 1. Incidentally House 1 is the only one to contain 2 red and 2 black!

We can use the 4 SET and add 10-11-12 and 28-29-30 to it. Bet is still easy to place because the first number is BLACK.

We can use the 7 SET and add 1-2-3 and 19-29-21 to it. Bet is still easy to place because the first number is RED.

Tried it on Betfair. Results went

4-7-4
7-7-4 W
4-4-4 W
7-4-7 W
4-4-7 W
7-7-4 W
4 7-4 W

No where near enough testing but may have potential.

I am more of a straight up bettor. Therefore I bow to your greater experience of this kind of bet. Any comments and suggestions greatly received and appreciated!

Cheers!

SAS

[steven1212]

SAS, may I ask you to give us more details on your sessions? Maybe you could post a few examples so we see how things unfold for you?
How many spins does it take you to reach 10 units? Whats the lowest (in terms of units) that you BR ever fell before you recovered? Do you have a stop loss?

Against, thanks for sharing. I like your system a lot. I think we can make it very nice but only if flat betting is used.

[SpinASequence]

As I said I must be getting lucky or in the right place at the right time! I do seem to be hitting a lot of first bets!

I flat bet with the occasional double. Because of my House System experience I can make an 'educated' bet! (..don't ask!..)

I have never been in deep. I hit and run.

I will be going to the casino again tomorrow. I will post the numbers and my bets.

Thanks for your input.

SAS

[Chris555p]

Totally agree with SAS, it takes experience and practice to make educated bets
concerning the house system.

Below is a small sample as to how I play it with foolproof variation progression.
Like SAS I play hit and run, and aim for about 10 units per day.


Bet set no.      Units          Units W/L      P/L   
       
4/7         1u x8           W 12 U      +4   
1/7         1u x 8         L 8 u         -8      
1/7         2u x8          W 24 U      +8      
1 / 4         1ux8         W 12 u      + 4      
4/7         1u x 8         L 8 U         -8      
1/7         2u x 8         L 16U      -16      
1 / 4         3u x 8         W 36         +12      
4/7         2u x 8         W 24U      +8      
4/7         2u x 8         W 24U      +8      

Total:                                                               + 12 U
Goal reached, stop playing.

[steven1212]

Hello Chris,

Thanks for sharing you playing style. I like your progression, especially due to the fact that you manage to recover even after two consecutive losses. On top of that, you make a great profit with 6 Wins and 3 Losses, which is exactly what we need with these kind of odds. And 12 units out of 9 spins only is a super successful session in my opinion.
Can you please clarify to us the rules of your progression ? I understand the main concept (+1 on a loss and -1 on the next win), but the only question I have is why you stayed at 2units on the last bet of your session although you were in profit? Can you tell me why ?

Thanks for helping.

Cheers

Totally agree with SAS, it takes experience and practice to make educated bets
concerning the house system.

Below is a small sample as to how I play it with foolproof variation progression.
Like SAS I play hit and run, and aim for about 10 units per day.


Bet set no.      Units          Units W/L      P/L   
       
4/7         1u x8           W 12 U      +4   
1/7         1u x 8         L 8 u         -8      
1/7         2u x8          W 24 U      +8      
1 / 4         1ux8         W 12 u      + 4      
4/7         1u x 8         L 8 U         -8      
1/7         2u x 8         L 16U      -16      
1 / 4         3u x 8         W 36         +12      
4/7         2u x 8         W 24U      +8      
4/7         2u x 8         W 24U      +8      

Total:                                                               + 12 U
Goal reached, stop playing.

[steven1212]

Thanks SAS, it's much appreciated. I may try the system in real play tomorrow. If I do Ill give you my results too.

Cheers.

As I said I must be getting lucky or in the right place at the right time! I do seem to be hitting a lot of first bets!

I flat bet with the occasional double. Because of my House System experience I can make an 'educated' bet! (..don't ask!..)

I have never been in deep. I hit and run.

I will be going to the casino again tomorrow. I will post the numbers and my bets.

Thanks for your input.

SAS

[Chris555p]

Hi Steven

The reason as to why I stay at 2 units even though I won is explained
in detail at p.46 of the attached link. With Foolproof variation progression
even with a hit rate of about 35% we are still in profit.....

link:s://:.dropbox.com/s/zmwixa1giyo9rsm/Stetson%20Bailey.pdf

[Colbster]

I explored this method here link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=13716.0.  I had never seen this before and am glad to see it explained in a different way to solidify my thoughts.  It is very solid in the testing I have done on the money-management aspect of all this.

[SpinASequence]

Just a quick update.

I will be visiting the casino later this afternoon. I will post the results later.

After a very successful test this morning on DB where I reached a high of plus 64 units, I will be playing every spin after the 'trigger' using Chris's foolproof progression.
I will be starting on 2 units.



Good luck!

SAS

[SpinASequence]

Here is the results of practice mode run at Betfair Live Casino betting every spin using Chris's foolproof progression. Not for real money. Just familiarising myself with the progression

1-1-1

4-4-1 WWL
4-1-7 LWW
4-4-1 LWW
4-1-1 LWL
7-7-7 WWW

Despite the dealer starting 3 of the 5 betting lines with SET 4 I still won!

W2 +8
W1 +12 could have stopped here!
L1 +4
L2 -12
W3 level
W2 +8
L2 -8...told you to stop! Idiot!
W3 +4
W2 +12 goal reached -again- would have stopped for real money!
L2 -4 see it's best to stop!!
W3 +8 stop!!
L2 -8 told you to stop!!
W3 +4
W2 +16......stop....oh!....go on then......one more to finish the line!
W2 +24


Won : 10
Lost : 5

At odds of 1:2 should be level. Even Steven. Levels you devils?
But, thanks to Chris' foolproof progression ending up plus 24 units! How powerful is that!!

Of course I would have stopped much earlier during the session.
There is nothing worse than getting in front then giving it back. Makes you feel sick!

Anyway this appears to be working - for now!

Keep testing and keep commenting!

Good luck!

SAS

[luckyfella]

Results from b&m casino.

[Proofreaders2000]

This would make an interesting bot SAS.