Law's Labby Breaker - Will this beat roulette?

[SpinASequence]

Well. You have given SIX real wins away in your last 2 games!

SAS

[sturrock]

Mmmmm?  Now you've got me thinking?

Anybody else with their input please

[thelaw]

Some of the losing streaks can get pretty nasty if you play them straight through. Just run the math on a string of 8-9 losses as an example.

This system is a conservative approach; more wins=more risk

[atlantis]

Hi Sturrock,

Am trying this for safety and so as to curtail rising progression:

Playing exactly as "thelaw" says EXCEPT waiting for W-L-L to occur after stopping on a L before resuming.

+1 on each DOZ after a loss. Reduce to 1 when level or ahead

Playing to win 3 games per session

REAL EXAMPLE
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213 - start line
112 - w L w          +1 ; -1 (next bet @ 2)
312 - w L  L          trigger to resume
131 - w w w         +1 (down to 1); + 2; +3            = +3 target
==========
121 - L w L          -2 (next bet @ 2)
221 - w L L          trigger to resume
123 - w L w          +0 (down to 1) ; -2 (next bet @ 2)
332 - w w w
331 - L L w           trigger ; +0 (down to 1)
331 - L L L            -2 (next bet @ 2)
211 - w w L
133 - w w w
333 - w L L           trigger to resume
113 - w w L         +0 (d to 1); +1 : -1 (next bet @ 2)
213 - w L L           trigger to resume
131 - w w w         +1 (d to 1); +2; +3                    = +3 target
==========
313 - w L(0) w w  +1; -1 (next bet @ 2); +1 (d to 1) ; +2
1xx - w                +3     Stopped 3 games won        = +3 target
==========

TOTAL = +9pts profit
52 spins
Highest bet = 2-2
W/L Registry: wL:LwLwLwwL:wL(0):
21 bets placed; 15W; 6L
Longest Losing Run=1

A.

[atlantis]

Here is my idea with thelaw's recent published results above...


Dozen   w/L      Total   
==================================================
222      (first line charted)
321      wLw     +1; -1 (next bet @ 2)
213      : 
122      :   
221      wLw     
333      :   
312      Lww     
312      LLL      trigger; -5 (next bet @3)
321      Lww     
332      Lww     
131      wLw     
321      wwL   
332      Lww     trigger; -2 ; +1 (next bet @ 1)
321      Lww     -1 (next bet @ 2)
323      LLw      trigger; +1 (next bet @ 1)
212      wwx     +2; +3                                              = +3 target
==================================================
122      wwL     +1; +2; +0 (next bet @ 2)
221      wLw     
123      wLw     
323      wLL     trigger
111      wwx     +2 (d to 1); +3                                 = +3 target
================================================= 
331      wwL     +1; +2 ; +0 (next bet @ 2)
221      wwL     
132      :     
222      wwL     
221      LLw     trigger; -4   (next bet @ 3) 
121      wLL     trigger
113      Lww     -10  (next bet @ 4)
132      Lww   
131      LLw     trigger ; -6
222      :    -2; +2 (d to 1); +3                           = +3 target
=================================================
113      :   +1, +2, +3                                        =  +3 target
=================================================
312      wLw     +1; -1 (next bet @ 2)
321      Lww     
133      : 
233      wLL      trigger
331      wLw      +1 (d to 1); -1 (next bet @ 2)
332      LLw      trigger; +1 (d to 1)
222      wwx      +2; +3                                           = +3 target
=================================================
111      :     +1; +2; +3                                      = +3 target
=================================================
131      LwL      -1 (next bet @ 2)
322      :     
313      Lww     
222      :   
233      Lww     
223      LwL     
221      LLw      trigger; -5 (next bet @ 3)
213      Lww     
133      wwL     
213      wwL     
121      :     
323      :   
331      Lww     
133      wLw     
133      LLL       trigger; -11 (next bet @ 4)
332      wLw     
313      Lww     
212      wLw     
332      wwL     
121      :      no more results. This game is incomplete
==================================================

+18pts profit from completed games (last game still would be in progress...)
Highest Bet so far=4-4
LLR=3
W/L Registry: wLLwwL:wwL:wLLL::wwLwL::LLL...?
180 spins. 39 bets placed: 27W;12L

A.

[SpinASequence]

How long would 180 spins take?

1pt profit per 10 spins.

SAS

[atlantis]

How long would 180 spins take?

1pt profit per 10 spins.

SAS

I know. Can be slow - but play for say 2 or 3 games then take a break or stop maybe until later...
The idea is to try and bring less risk which means lower stakes and lower bankroll hopefully.
For instance 'thelaw' stated he played a high of 24-24 unit stake in those games whereas I am still on 4-4.
I suppose if you're playing low value units it's not so bad anyway. The less spins you play the less chance of encountering the 0
Some live dealers spin pretty fast eg: betfair live roulette - so things can move along quite fast - although I've noticed with that game you can get frozen out and terminated if you don't play stakes regularly... Ones like SmartLive don't seem to bother and you can wait all you like but the delay between spins can be 45secs-1min each...

A.

[sturrock]

Hi Atlantis
I think your idea is fantastic WLL after a loss but you could grow old at the table. Maybe if play high units it will work?

Keep the ideas coming This is great !!! 

[Chris555p]

Hi Atlantis

Would u please explain your progression above.....?
Do u add 1 unit after a loss, and reduce by 1 unit after a win....?
Thanks


Cheers


Chris

[jarabo002]

Great!

Dont understand the labby proposed by thelaw well...

What happens if...


l
l
l
...L

l
ll
ll
...L

??

and

l
l
l
...W

l
l
...L

??

[atlantis]

Hi Atlantis

Would u please explain your progression above.....?
Do u add 1 unit after a loss, and reduce by 1 unit after a win....?
Thanks


Cheers


Chris

Hi Chris,

After each losing bet:
1) wait for w-L-L signal
2) increase current stakes by +1 to each dozen...

After each win:
1) remain at current stakes level
OR
2)Reduce to base bet of 1-1 only if level (previous recorded high) for current game or at a new high for current game
OR
3)You are winning +3u or more overall. Stop - the game is won!

Session=3 games.
Target = +3 per game

Up to you whether you reduce stakes down -1 after every win. I stay at same stakes until break even or get ahead in game...

* = new or level high

Game just now:

311 - start line
121 - wwL          +1*; +2*; +0 (u to 2-2) wait for w-L-L
133 - Lww
313 - wwL
331 - Lww          trigger; +2* (d to 1-1); +3*                     +3 target   
================================

Regards,
A.

[Chris555p]

Hi Atlantis

Thanks for your quick reply.

Yes, your progression as you have explained is much less risky than the
traditional marty 1,3,9,27,81.


Cheers


Chris

[sturrock]

Hi Gang, Just played on DB  using traditional Marty 1,3,9,27 and not playing WLL or waiting for a win after a loss Just betting on every spin just to see how it goes! Biggest unit on each Doz was 27 (Scary) Probably wont play this way again till we've done much more testing to see what is the greatest No. of looses in a row? But I really do like this system!

2-2-3
3-2-2 WLW
3-1-1 LWW
3-1-3 LLW
1-1-3 WLL
1-2-3 LWL  biggest draw-down
1-3-3 LWL
3-1-1 WWW
1-3-2 WWW   6 wins in a row   Stopped up 13

[sturrock]

OK this next game on DB proves that waiting for a virtual win after a loss works. Played Marty of 1-3-9-27

2-1-2
1-3-3 WWW
1-3-3 L VL VL
1-1-2 VL VW W
2-1-1 W L VW
2-1-1 L VL VL
2-2-2 VL VW W   6 UNITS UP    9 WINS 9 LOSSES

[atlantis]

Hi Sturrock,

Here is a session of the ORIGINAL way by "thelaw" but using less riskier progression (+1 if behind after a L, or reset to 1-1 if level or ahead)

* = level or new high

231 - start line
322 - w w w          +1*; +2*; +3*
333 - L vw w         +1 (u to 2); +3* (d to 1)
311 - L vw w         +1 (u to 2); +3* (d to 1)
233 - w w w          +4* ; +5*; +6*
231 - L vL vw        +4 (u to 2)
132 - w L vw         +6* (d to 1)
322 - w w L           +7*; +8* ; +6 (u to 2)
231 - vw w w         +8* (d to 1); +9*

+9pts profit in 27 spins.

HB= 2-2

:LwL:wLwLwwLww

18 bets - 13W;5L

A.