Matrix Quad Cycle

[Turner]

For those that prefer to target ONE quad only - worth a look to review again Turner's "Quad Cycle" topic here:

link:://betselection.cc/street-4/quad-cycle/msg16044/?topicseen#msg16044

funny, I read this last night. I was going to ask if you minded me posting the link but you beat me to it.

I think the most interesting parts are GG/Priyankas input.

[RouletteGhost]

Quick test on 00 wheel

hmmmm how to handle this

if i was thrown at the table right now i would wait for 4 unique in a row and use that as a trigger. that eliminates the 3 L in a row

3
2
4
3 W
2 W
1  L
3 W
1 W
2
4 L
3 L
1 L
4 W
3 W
3 W
2
4
2 W
1
00 L
4
4
3
3
4
3
2
1 L
3 W
3 W
1
2
4 L
3 L
3 W
3
0
3
3
4
3
4

[RouletteGhost]

wait for 4 unique then bet the last 3

1
4
3
2

now bet 4 3 and 2

[RouletteGhost]

i got a chance to read turners thread

great thread actually with some great people

interesting

its betting "hot" numbers essentially

performed well when I just tested it

[Narich]

Hi Atlantis!
It  reminds me of the code 4, which has been on this forum. I'm not sure that this method will in profit.
So there will again be at the rate equal chances. The loss of 3 units of profit 1. Maybe I'm wrong.

[atlantis]

wait for 4 unique then bet the last 3

1
4
3
2

now bet 4 3 and 2

Yes - that also a very good idea, RG!

A.

[RouletteGhost]

With the house and closing i havent had time to test but this is on the top of my list

[atlantis]

After the "sequential" recording of the quads I now try recording them in "pairs".
For this particular test I decide to play after a matching pair and bet against the next 2 results NOT to be a matching pair.

For example:

3 4
2 2 - trigger match
1 4 - win  (bet against the second element of the pair being a "1")

See attached .txt file.

Regards,
A.

[Willie]

After the "sequential" recording of the quads I now try recording them in "pairs".
For this particular test I decide to play after a matching pair and bet against the next 2 results NOT to be a matching pair.

For example:

3 4
2 2 - trigger match
1 4 - win  (bet against the second element of the pair being a "1")

See attached .txt file.

Regards,
A.

Good twist Atlantis
How many wins and losses did you get in those 1000 spins using this tweak

[atlantis]

QUAD PAIR BETTING (Version2)
=================

Betting on EC+Quad.

Betting on the EC's:
HIGH or
LOW


Betting on the Quads:
1 = 1-9
2 = 10-18
3 = 19-27
4 = 28-36

Method: Record quads in pairs.
After 2 matching pairs - bet for non-match in 2nd column on next pair.

Bet placement:

Low+Quad3
Low+Quad4
High+Quad1
High+Quad2

After a LOSS - STOP BETTING.
RESTART only after further 2 matching pairs - bet for non-match in 2nd column on next pair.

1000 spins
=======

*=matching pair

1   3
2   3
2   1
2   2*
4   1
2   2*
4   3win
2   4
4   3
4   3
3   3*
1   2
2   3
2   3
3   4
4   2
4   1
4   3
2   4
4   1
1   4
2   2*
2   4win
2   2*
4   3
3   4
4   2
4   2
3   3*
4   1win
4   1
4   4*
2   1
1   3
1   1*
2   3win
2   4
2   1
1   1*
1   4
1   3
4   4*
4   2win
2   3
4   1
4   2
1   4
2   2*
3   2
3   3*
4   2win
1   3
4   2
4   2
3   4
2   1
3   3
1   3
1   3
1   1*
1   2
4   2
2   4
2   4
4   4*
1   4win
1   4
4   3
2   4
1   1*
1   2
4   4*
1   4win
1   4
3   4
3   3*
3   1
2   2*
1   2win
2   2*
4   3
3   3*
2   1win
2   2*
2   2*
3   4win
4   2
1   1*
4   1
3   1
2   2*
3   3lost
1   1*
3   2
2   2*
3   4win
1   3
2   4
4   4*
3   1
2   2*
3   2win
2   2*
3   3*
2   4win
4   1
3   4
4   3
1   4
1   3
4   4*
4   1
3   4
4   2
2   3
1   4
1   3
3   2
4   1
4   3
1   3
3   2
1   3
4   2
3   2
1   2
1   2
4   3
3   1
1   3
1   3
3   4
2   1
4   3
4   4*
3   2win
2   1
2   2*
3   2
3   1
4   2
4   3
1   2
1   2
4   4*
1   2win
3   3*
2   2*
3   3lost
4   3
3   4
1   2
2   2*
1   4
3   3*
3   4win
4   4*
3   1
1   2
3   2
1   1*
1   3win
4   1
4   2
2   1
3   2
1   3
1   4
4   2
2   4
1   2
1   2
2   3
4   4*
3   4
3   3*
4   4lost
4   1
3   3*
3   3*
3   1win
4   3
3   2
2   2*
2   4
4   3
2   2*
1   2win
4   1
4   3
1   3
2   2*
3   3*
4   1win
1   3
4   4*
3   3*
1   4win
2   3
3   3*
4   2
1   3
2   2*
4   2win
3   1
1   1*
3   3*
3   4win
2   4
3   3*
3   3*
4   2win
4   2
2   1
2   1
3   4
4   4*
1   3
4   3
1   1*
1   3win
1   1*
3   4
2   1
1   4
3   4
2   4
4   3
1   1*
1   2win
1   3
2   4
2   3
1   2
1   3
4   4*
2   1
4   1
4   2
3   2
3   1
1   2
1   2
4   3
2   1
1   4
3   4
1   4
4   3
1   3
3   3*
2   1win
1   1*
1   1*
2   3win
4   2
2   3
3   1
2   2*
3   3*
4   2win
1   1*
4   4*
1   4win
2   2*
3   3*
3   1win
1   1*
1   3
1   3
3   3*
3   3lost
1   2
4   1
3   1
1   2
3   1
1   2
4   3
3   1
1   4
2   2*
4   4*
4   2win
2   2*
4   4*
4   4lost
3   1
4   1
4   4*
4   4*
4   4lost
4   4*
2   4
2   1
3   3*
4   2win
2   2*
4   2
2   3
2   1
3   3*
2   1win
2   1
4   1
3   1
1   2
2   2*
2   4
3   2
1   4
4   2
1   4
3   4
2   4
4   1
4   1
2   3
4   2
4   4*
3   2win
3   2
2   3
3   3*
2   3
4   4*
1   2win
4   1
2   2*
3   3*
1   2win
4   1
4   4*
1   3
3   3*
1   4win
3   1
4   4*
2   3
1   2
3   1
3   4
2   3
3   4
4   2
4   1
2   1
3   1
4   1
2   3
2   3
1   4
4   2
2   4
2   3
3   3*
3   3lost
2   1
1   2
4   1
3   4
2   4
1   4
1   3
1   4
4   1
2   4
4   3
1   1*
2   4
2   4
3   2
1   1*
4   2win
1   2
3   3*
3   2
1   1*
4   2win
2   2*
3   2
4   1
3   4
2   1
3   2
1   4
1   2
2   1
1   4
3   1
3   3*
2   3win
3   3*
3   3*
2   4win
4   4*
4   4*
1   1lost
3   1
3   2
3   4
1   2
3   4
3   4
1   4
2   1
1   2
1   3
3   4
1   4
2   3
1   3
2   4
4   2
2   2*
3   2
1   1*
1   4win
2   4
1   4
2   1
4   4*
2   3
4   3
2   3
2   3
2   4
4   2
3   1
4   1
2   3
2   1
4   4*
4   4lost
4   3
2   1
1   3
3   4
4   4*
1   4
3   2
4   1
1   1*
4   2win
4   3
1   1*
3   4
1   4
1   3
2   3
1   1*
1   4win
2   2*
1   4
4   4*
3   2win
2   4
3   1
2   4
3   2
1   1*
3   1
1   2
1   2
3   2
2   3
4   4*
1   2win
2   1
2   3
1   2
2   2*
1   1*
4   2win
4   3
3   1
1   2
2   4
1   4
4   1
2   1
3   2
2   2*
3   1
2   1
1   4
1   2
1   4
2   1
4   4*
4   4lost
3   4
3   1
4   4*
2   2*
1   3win
1   1*
4   1
3   4
4   2
===
END
===

Longest Losing Run = 2

Bets won=50; Bets lost=10

Regards,
A.

[atlantis]

I like to bet with low limit stakes on live autowheel (with le partage returns for EC)
Here is example bet placement for a bet on LOW+Quad4 after waiting for the preliminary 2 matched pairs... which in this case was a win

Stake=0.9
Return=1.2
Profit=0.3

A.

[atlantis]

I look to get more bets so when I see that two RIGHT-TO-LEFT downward diagonal MATCHES have occurred I similarly bet that the next right to left diagonal pair will NOT be a match by betting that the result in column 1 will not match the last result in column 2...

* = matching pair (horizontally or right to left diagonally)

Here is same spinfile with the additional column 1 wins and losses now shown.

1000 spins
=========

1     3
2   3
2   1
2   2*
4   1
2   2*
4   3w
2   4
4*   3
4   3
3*   3*
1w   2
2*   3
2   3
3*   4
4L   2
4   1
4   3
2   4
4*   1
1*   4
2w   2*
2*   4w
2   2*
4   3
3*   4
4L   2
4   2
3   3*
4   1w
4   1
4   4*
2   1
1*   3
1   1*
2   3w
2   4
2   1
1*   1*
1L   4
1   3
4   4*
4*   2w
2*   3
4w   1
4   2
1   4
2   2*
3   2
3   3*
4   2w
1   3
4   2
4   2
3   4
2   1
3   3
1   3
1   3
1   1*
1*   2
4   2
2*   4
2w   4
4*   4*
1   4w
1   4
4*   3
2w   4
1   1*
1*   2
4   4*
1   4w
1   4
3   4
3   3*
3*   1
2w   2*
1   2w
2*   2*
4   3
3*   3*
2w   1w
2   2*
2*   2*
3   4w
4*   2
1w   1*
4   1
3   1
2   2*
3   3L
1   1*
3   2
2*   2*
3   4w
1   3
2   4
4*   4*
3w   1
2   2*
3   2w
2*   2*
3   3*
2   4w
4*   1
3w   4
4*   3
1   4
1   3
4   4*
4*   1
3w   4
4*   2
2*   3
1w   4
1   3
3*   2
4   1
4   3
1   3
3*   2
1w   3
4   2
3   2
1   2
1   2
4   3
3*   1
1*   3
1w   3
3*   4
2   1
4   3
4   4*
3   2w
2*   1
2w   2*
3   2
3   1
4   2
4   3
1   2
1   2
4   4*
1   2w
3   3*
2   2*
3   3L
4   3
3*   4
1   2
2*   2*
1w   4
3   3*
3*   4w
4*   4*
3w   1
1*   2
3   2
1   1*
1*   3w
4w   1
4   2
2*   1
3   2
1   3
1   4
4*   2
2L   4
1   2
1   2
2*   3
4   4*
3   4
3   3*
4   4L
4*   1
3w   3*
3*   3*
3*   1w
4w   3
3*   2
2*   2*
2L   4
4*   3
2   2*
1   2w
4   1
4   3
1   3
2   2*
3   3*
4   1w
1*   3
4w   4*
3   3*
1   4w
2   3
3*   3*
4   2
1   3
2   2*
4   2w
3   1
1*   1*
3w   3*
3*   4w
2   4
3   3*
3*   3*
4w   2w
4   2
2*   1
2   1
3   4
4*   4*
1w   3
4   3
1   1*
1*   3w
1   1*
3   4
2   1
1*   4
3w   4
2   4
4*   3
1   1*
1*   2w
1w   3
2   4
2   3
1   2
1   3
4   4*
2   1
4   1
4   2
3   2
3   1
1*   2
1   2
4   3
2   1
1*   4
3w   4
1   4
4*   3
1   3
3*   3*
2w   1w
1*   1*
1*   1*
2w   3w
4   2
2*   3
3*   1
2w   2*
3   3*
4   2w
1   1*
4   4*
1   4w
2   2*
3   3*
3*   1w
1*   1*
1L   3
1   3
3*   3*
3*   3L
1w   2
4   1
3   1
1*   2
3   1
1*   2
4w   3
3*   1
1*   4
2w   2*
4   4*
4*   2w
2*   2*
4w   4*
4*   4L
3   1
4   1
4   4*
4*   4*
4L   4L
4*   4*
2   4
2   1
3   3*
4   2w
2*   2*
4w   2
2*   3
2   1
3   3*
2   1w
2   1
4   1
3   1
1*   2
2L   2*
2*   4
3   2
1   4
4*   2
1w   4
3   4
2   4
4*   1
4   1
2   3
4   2
4   4*
3   2w
3   2
2*   3
3L   3*
2   3
4   4*
1   2w
4   1
2   2*
3   3*
1   2w
4   1
4   4*
1   3
3*   3*
1   4w
3   1
4   4*
2   3
1   2
3   1
3   4
2   3
3*   4
4L   2
4   1
2   1
3   1
4   1
2   3
2   3
1   4
4*   2
2*   4
2w   3
3*   3*
3*   3L
2w   1
1*   2
4   1
3   4
2   4
1   4
1   3
1   4
4*   1
2w   4
4*   3
1   1*
2   4
2   4
3   2
1   1*
4   2w
1   2
3   3*
3*   2
1w   1*
4   2w
2*   2*
3   2
4   1
3   4
2   1
3   2
1   4
1   2
2*   1
1w   4
3   1
3   3*
2   3w
3*   3*
3*   3*
2w   4w
4*   4*
4*   4*
1w   1L
3   1
3   2
3   4
1   2
3   4
3   4
1   4
2   1
1*   2
1   3
3*   4
1w   4
2   3
1   3
2   4
4*   2
2*   2*
3w   2
1   1*
1*   4w
2   4
1   4
2   1
4   4*
2   3
4   3
2   3
2   3
2   4
4*   2
3w   1
4   1
2   3
2   1
4   4*
4*   4L
4*   3
2w   1
1*   3
3*   4
4L   4*
1   4
3   2
4   1
1*   1*
4   2w
4   3
1   1*
3   4
1   4
1   3
2   3
1   1*
1*   4w
2w   2*
1   4
4*   4*
3   2w
2*   4
3w   1
2   4
3   2
1   1*
3   1
1*   2
1   2
3   2
2*   3
4w   4*
1   2w
2*   1
2   3
1   2
2*   2*
1w   1*
4   2w
4   3
3*   1
1*   2
2L   4
1   4
4*   1
2   1
3   2
2*   2*
3w   1
2   1
1*   4
1   2
1   4
2   1
4   4*
4*   4L
3w   4
3   1
4   4*
2   2*
1   3w
1   1*
4   1
3   4
4*   2
====
END
====

Possibly 2 players? Each player can play on their own column with separate progression.

COLUMN 1
--------------
Bets won=63; Bets L=11

COLUMN 2
--------------
Bets won=50; Bets L=10

A.
Update
I won 5.40u today playing for real on live autowheel with my low stakes; that equates to 18 wins (@0.3u) Over 3 sessions.
I will stick with it for now as it does seem to be going well for me. I stick to the rules above. Win some units hit and run.

A.

[atlantis]

Here is result of my first session today of this method which I am now naming "Smart Binary Quads". (SBQ)
(Live autowheel - single 0 - le partage)

Session #8
##########

t1 = trigger1
t2 = trigger2

   Quad Pairs
   ========
     4   3
     1   2
     4   2
     2   3
     1   3
t1  3   4
t2  4   2
W  3   1
     2   1
t1  1   3
     2   1
     3   1
t2  1   4
W  1   1  t1
     2   3
     1   4
t1  4   4   t2
     1   4   W
t2  4   1
W  2   1
     4   4   t1
     3   2
     4   2
     1   1   t2
     3   2   W

Stopped here. 5 wins.

Total profit so far = £14.10  (47 wins x 0.3u)

Slow and gradual but easy to track and play; building up nicely so carrying on with it.
Don't blame me if it turns out to be yet another grail...      

A.

[hexfex82]

Hello A.

i didn't understand the bet selection sorry. I know the quads but I didn't understand when they are qualified or better what are you playing when you have the qualified.

Your Example:

t1  3   4
t2  4   2
W  3   1

T1 I understand 3 and 4 are not the same
T2 4 and 2 are not the same

What are you playing now?
I assuem you play 3 but why not 1...



Can you bring light up in it?

Thanks

Hex

[atlantis]

Hello A.

i didn't understand the bet selection sorry. I know the quads but I didn't understand when they are qualified or better what are you playing when you have the qualified.

Your Example:

t1  3   4
t2  4   2
W  3   1

T1 I understand 3 and 4 are not the same
T2 4 and 2 are not the same

What are you playing now?
I assuem you play 3 but why not 1...



Can you bring light up in it?

Thanks

Hex

Hello Hex,

See replies 69 and 71 for the full playing instructions.

You can play for the horizontals (by betting column 2) or the right/left diagonals (by betting in column 1) .... or BOTH ways!

However, it is very important to get TWO trigger matches first before betting for a non-match to occur after the first element of the very next pair is formed.

Win or Lose you must STOP. Wait for the next trigger again (2 matching pairs) before placing the next bet.
So with this you have to resist the strong urge or temptation to continue betting immediately after a loss.

In the snippet you posted:

     1   3
t1  3   4
t2  4   2
W  3   1

There are two consecutive right-left diagonal matches (3-3 and 4-4). These two triggers don't HAVE to be consecutive though. You can have gaps between them. After the two "matches" it means I can now bet AGAINST a right diagonal match of the 2 to happen in column 1 by betting on HIGH+Quad 1; and it is a (W)in as Quad 3 occurs.... Stop betting.

It is same procedure for the "horizontals".

A bet is 9u.

6u on the EC and 3 street bets @ 1u.

You can flat bet all the way until you get a few wins ahead OR on a LOSS increase the EC by 6u and the streets by 1u to start to try and win back the loss but I would beware of using rising progressions...
I simply try and accept a few wins profit for each session (3-6 wins generally, if I can)

A.