Are there really 37 possible outcomes?

[Azim]

Turner, good stats to have. Thank you.

That's why people who like to chase sleepers have always been told by the wise never bet sleepers before the 5 deviation.

But no no one wants to listen.

I am repeating this again, sorry.

My discussion with Winkel was the same, if you are smart and know and can see whats happening you start a permutation of combination , union and difference to come up with some lower number to bet.

You might not always be right, but statistics never lie, you with flat betting as Winkel said will come out ahead.

[Azim]

Turner I have one question for you, not that it matters the numbers would still be the same.

Did you take 37 and stop or did you keep looping as in 1-37, 2-38, 3-39  or did you do 1-37 , 38 to 74?

[wiggy]

Using Droidman's track4 software is great for seeing how all this rule of the third stuff works over the 37 spin cycles.

[Turner]

Turner I have one question for you, not that it matters the numbers would still be the same.

Did you take 37 and stop or did you keep looping as in 1-37, 2-38, 3-39  or did you do 1-37 , 38 to 74?

Azim,

I said in bold that they arnt my stats. They are from a poster called Teorulte

The sum of the 37 stats are 499964, and its over 500K spins, so its looped

13,14 and 33,34 would show over higher spins, perhaps 2,3 million

[Azim]

Azim,

I said in bold that they arnt my stats. They are from a poster called Teorulte

The sum of the 37 stats are 499964, and its over 500K spins, so its looped

Yeah. Sorry, I realised it after I posted the question. Sorry.

[LuckoftheIrish]

Hi,

I am Teorulte, and I did the stats test for the Law of the third and they are looped, ie: 1-37, 2-38 etc

I was thinking of doing some similar testing but also with evens, and seeing if there was a possibility in cutting down numbers to bet on somehow. 

I feel like there is something I am missing here, like there is a solution but I can not find it.

[Azim]

Hi,

I am Teorulte, and I did the stats test for the Law of the third and they are looped, ie: 1-37, 2-38 etc

I was thinking of doing some similar testing but also with evens, and seeing if there was a possibility in cutting down numbers to bet on somehow. 

I feel like there is something I am missing here, like there is a solution but I can not find it.

You are correct. With the stats just provided over the last 3-4 posts. There is something out there.
All that needs to be done is put the pieces of the puzzle together.

It's not easy it's trying to understand what you want from the stats.

Bottom line is, we have to sit down and work our way back. Meaning start from the final destination and  go back to the source.

What do I mean by that is you know the result as an example:

You want to go from point A to point B.
You Google it and there are 5 ways to get there.
There is no right or wrong way, its a preference of how you want to get there.

Some will choose scenic route and some will choose road full of potholes so they can get there faster.

Its all in preference as to what you want.

[falkor]

I think Colbster is absolutely correct with this thread. It's all about having a system that concentrates on repeaters... I reached a similar conclusion in a thought experiment a few nights ago based on Law of the Third.

[wiggy]

I think Colbster is absolutely correct with this thread. It's all about having a system that concentrates on repeaters..

It's possible. Here is a kind of reverse rule of the third stat which I discovered when working with Droidman's tracker.

Take two cycles of 37 spins (74 spins) and you get roughly 24 numbers appearing 2 times or less and the other 13 numbers appearing 3 times or more. Combining a few of these different stats together may help in figuring out a point of attack.

[vladir]

It's possible. Here is a kind of reverse rule of the third stat which I discovered when working with Droidman's tracker.

Take two cycles of 37 spins (74 spins) and you get roughly 24 numbers appearing 2 times or less and the other 13 numbers appearing 3 times or more. Combining a few of these different stats together may help in figuring out a point of attack.

Where do you get this droidman's tracker?

[wiggy]

Vladir, I can't post an external link for the software. You can find it in the downloads section on the VLS roulette forum. Or just google 'droidman track 4'

It's intended for play with Winkel's G.U.T.  Just ignore the crossings at the bottom and concentrate on how the numbers develop over 37 and 74 spins.

[vladir]

Ok, here is something interesting. Using excel, I randomized 100.010 "spins" and analyzed the sequences. I did it more 10  times (so a total of 1.000.000), results are similar in all. I analyzed them for the appearence of the first repeater in a sequence of 37. (see attached image).
Not sure yet of how- or if -this info could be used properly...

In 1.000.000 "spins", the maximum for a repeater to appear was at "spin" 26, or in other words, a maximum of 25 uniques before a repeater.

[falkor]

You wouldn't be betting the sleepers waiting for the first repeat. The best system would bet on the repeats until they appear twice or more.

So if you keep betting the streets as they appear with a progression then sooner or later the street has to repeat. Worst case scenario is that you are betting on 11 streets and the 12th street comes in (if that's possible even?).

The problem is that once you have to bet many numbers or streets simultaneously then the BR starts getting exhausted quickly.

An interesting thing I found is playing the Warriors system on Double Streets: when that system loses in a set from hell - the situation is perfect for betting individual number repeats since whilst you were playing the lines there would have been no number repeats greater than 1 (or only single appearances). Therefore a combination of systems might be the best way to go - based on Law of the Third.

[vladir]

Here is an idea based on what I shared above:

When we have 4 unique  numbers, start betting them, flat up until 8 uniques maximum, risking only a maximum of 30 units... We will win about 47,5% of the time one of this values:

32
27
21
14
6

Then track again and keep flat beting or for example.... raise base bet by 1 unit on a loss, reduce by 1 on a win, reset when in plus.

[LuckoftheIrish]

This is a test I did in November.  I tested over 1 million single zero RNG spins and got this:

2    3210
3    6251
4    9017
5    10906
6    12398
7    12852
8    12454
9    11478
10    10007
11    8619
12    6845
13    5243
14    3857
15    2730
16    1816
17    1128
18    687
19    355
20    246
21    96
22    61
23    29
24    16
25    5
26    3
27    0
28    0
29    0
30    0
31    0
32    0
33    0
34    0
35    0
36    0

The most unique numbers in a row was 25 (The 26 means it hit on the 26th spin, so 25 unique numbers in a row) and this happened only 3 times.