Why do you believe Roulette can be beaten?

[falkor]

For me: I was interested in roulette 20+ years ago, but I became brainwashed into believing "expert" opinions about Gambler's Fallacy and how systems should be discouraged - even though Martingale would work if there was no table limits.

It was only when I discovered Mathematical proof that Christianity was invented by a little known family of Roman emperors as a government project and the greatest satirical hoax of all-time that I decided to re-visit roulette; since MILLIONS of Academic books written about Christianity are totally wrong there might be a chance that roulette really can be beaten after all! I've discovered that you can't always trust the so-called experts.

[Proofreaders2000]

The irony here is people look for the 'Holy Grail'-
a Christ reference, yet not believing there is a God.

[Kav]

** post edited. Kav, I dont mind you posting the occasional link provided you arent profiting from it  (because then it becomes spam) and the article benefits members without being old information. But the video is blatant promotion of your website **

[nottophammer]

its not can roulette be beaten, its can you make it pay.

[RouletteGhost]

it can be beaten if you have an extremely large bankroll and use a negative progression (star?)

[falkor]

If a system passes a million spin test with consistently placed bets then it's beaten as far as I'm concerned! I don't think the Star System can overcome 22 losses in a row, but winkel's system on the double streets looks like it can overcome 79 losses and come out with a profit!

[Kav]

** post edited. Kav, I dont mind you posting the occasional link provided you arent profiting from it  (because then it becomes spam) and the article benefits members without being old information. But the video is blatant promotion of your website **

It was an informative promotional video that I posted, but I posted it because it was very relevant.

Anyway, my opinion is that:
1) If you are in a roulette forum, you should believe it is possible to win the game, otherwise you are just losing your time
2) I have a problem with the definition of "winning at roulette". People have unrealistic expectations and cannot accept the concept of RISK. Any business for example has risk and no guaranties of profit. Yet, this is no reason  not to start a business. You must accept that you can not beat uncertainty, you can not beat the house advantage, yet it IS possible to win at roulette. By taking f@king RISKS! 

[RobbieD]

I have about 10 systems that can win at Roulette. None of them can 'beat' Roulette. With a limitless bank, limitless table restraints and limitless time, possibly.

All comes down to money management. If you are happy with £1 per day profit it is possible, but still not guaranteed. If you want £100 per day - then good luck.

Human nature and greed will destroy you. Find a good system and try it once a month with, say £20 and see how things go.

It's gambling, pure and simple. Just depends if you can say enough is enough. Treat it as pure fun but never try to recoup your losses.

[RouletteGhost]

If a system passes a million spin test with consistently placed bets then it's beaten as far as I'm concerned! I don't think the Star System can overcome 22 losses in a row, but winkel's system on the double streets looks like it can overcome 79 losses and come out with a profit!

winkels system? cant find it

[Proofreaders2000]

Winkel has two major systems RichBailey86

"Win as much as You Want"

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=3928.0

and Winkel's "G.U.T" System (Great Universal Theory)

link:://rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=2681.0

[RouletteGhost]

thanks proof reader. which one do u believe falkor was referring to when he said using winkels system on double streets in ubeatable?

[Proofreaders2000]

I don't think Falkor was looking for a Grail, just
wondering if a winning system could exist in Roulette.

Me personally I like the Star System with a few tweaks.

[RouletteGhost]

I don't think Falkor was looking for a Grail, just
wondering if a winning system could exist in Roulette.

Me personally I like the Star System with a few tweaks.

funny you say that

ive mentioned the star several times on this board the past 2 nights

i have the pdf. i dont fully understand it but from reviews it looks as if it is a true winner but you need a humongous bankroll

[falkor]

GLC, apologies if I offended you - that wasn't my intention. The "mathematical proof" is based around 60 parallels occurring in sequence between the gospels and Josephus - often low frequency verbatim phrases - akin to DNA evidence; you are welcome to PM me (or vice-versa) should you wish to discuss this in private - I like to consider man-made explanations before I consider any divine explanations - though I am afraid it may cause you to resent me; I've enjoyed our conversations about roulette up until now based on your sound knowledge and experience, so wouldn't want to jeopardize that through any quarrels over controversial subjects like religion. Evidently your posts are some of the most valuable on this forum - your contributions here, outstanding - whereas I'm still a newbie. Unfortunately, I have a bad habit of asserting bold claims, so I hope you guys can learn to tolerate me in the long run--Cheers!

[GLC]

No apologies necessary, Falkor.  I'm the one who needs to apologize.  It was wrong of me to take offense.  Forgive me.  After all you weren't attacking me personally.  You were just attacking what I believe.  Those 60 parallels between the gospels and Josephus are counterbalanced by over 360 prophecies about the coming Messiah.  Jesus fulfilled all of them and there were 109 that only Jesus could fulfill.  But math isn't the only issue here.  Because I do believe, you should understand why I react so strongly.  I know that you're not worried about it because you don't believe.  Maybe some day that will change.  While there's breath, there's hope.

Blessings to you,
George