3 Double Streets as an EC (deserves its own thread)

[nottophammer]

Learned a lesson tonight.
Rich that lesson you learnt, keep it on board all the time,as been said before discipline is a must. Always keep to the rules,the rules are learnt as you play and you must play by the rules at all times.

[GLC]

Played live tonight. Turned 100 into 300 fkat betting 5 dollar chips on the 3 DS. Greed kicked in I wanted more

So I bet more and more bigger chips. Lost it all

Learned a lesson tonight.

Dont deviate or let emotions take control

Had I kept doing what I was doing id be way up

Thanks for posting this Rich.  We all need to be reminded that self control is key.  I'll bet everyone reading this has started betting bigger chips either because they were losing or winning and then lost it all, myself included.  I walked out thinking, "If I'd just stayed with my game plan, I'd have won instead of losing.

I hope it didn't break the bank, Rich.

I've noticed that if we get ahead by 5 wins, we usually pull out of the hole, so here's my "get ahead by 5 wins" progression for even chances.

If Lose      Bet           If Win
-1              1               +1
-2              1               +1
-3              1               +1
-4              1               +1
-5              1               +1
-7              2               +1
-9              2               +1
-11            2               +1
-14            3               +1
-17            4               +3
-21            5               +4
-26            6               +4
-30            7               +5
-37            8               +3
-45            10             +5
-55            12             +5
-67            14             +3
-81            17             +4
-98            20             +2
-118          24             +2
-142          29             +3
-171          35             +4
-206          42             +4
-248          50             +2
-298          60             +2
-358          72             +2
-430          86               0
-516

In the beginning all we're doing is betting enough to reach +1.  So on the 1st 1, we don't have to win 1 unit 5 times to be up, all we have to do is win once.  If we lose our 1st 1 unit bet, we have to win 1 unit 2 times in a row to be up +1 etc...  Starting at the 4 unit bet, we must win 4 units 5 times before we lose 1 time to be ahead and every bet after that we must get ahead by 5 bets before we get behind by 1 bet to pull out of the hole.

Looks pretty solid.  Don't let looks deceive you.  It will win, win, and win some more.  But it will also lose.  The good thing about it is that you don't always have to keep betting until you get ahead by 5 bets.  Let's say we're at -142.  That means we're betting 35 units and if we get ahead by 5 bets, we will have recovered all lost units +4.  But we can decide if we've won 35 units 3 times for 105 units, -142 +105 = -37 units.  If we look at our chart, we see that when we were down 37 units we were betting 8 units.  So, we could drop back to the 8 unit level and hope to recover from there.  This is a way to keep our bets lower.

Not foolproof, but not bad either.

GLC

[Tamino]

Recent posts  validate the claim that 60 % of  the people  who enter a casino are ahead at one time or another but 70% of those give it all   bacvk.

Only  a minor l adjustment    is needed to prevent this to happen.

[RouletteGhost]

Thanks for that GLC

My take on this 3 DS system is that it works

Id wait for 1 or 2 virtual losses then id flat bet 7 times in a row

Came ahead 1 to 2 units each time

After an hour i was sitting on an extra 14 units

I said 100 to 300 that easy? So I went with $25 chips but I was anxious and confident and I wanted more so I did not even wait for the virtual loss

I was going to stop when up $100 but then I said ill wait for $200

My greed destroyed me

Next time ill have discipline

In regards to this 3 center DS system theres two pointers I would like to make

1- my time at the table last night it never went beyond 4 misses. Very often it was like this: hit miss hit miss hit miss but occasionally a streak of 2 or 3 against it

2-while betting the 15 dollar unit (5 on each DS) I put $2 on 0/00 which hit twice which in turn covered the units loss on the DS and won me Roughly $20.

My play was 3 middle DS and $2 on zeros the whole time

The 3 losses in a row came when I started 25 dollar units

The 4 losses in a row came when I had a 2 loss wait virtual loss so I only lost 2 out of the 4

This is much more effective then outside EC

Take it and run with it. Go make some money.

[Proofreaders2000]

Here's a tidbit RichBailey86

Establish a start and stop time for your session.

If you start at 6:20pm (for example) decide
to stop promptly 20 minutes after.

You can also establish a win-target
and stop-loss. +10% win-Target.  -15% or -20% stop loss.

[RouletteGhost]

Proof I had a 30 minute or $100 profit stop. O hit $200 profit so quick the greed kicked in

I learned a lesson. This system works though!!  Had I not deviated

[ddarko]

This system works though!! 

How many spins & bets have you tested it for richbailey86 ?

[RouletteGhost]

looked at 500 past spins and about 2 hours worth in b and m casino and an hour worth on celtic

2 or 3 misses in a row is the usual

Moral of my story don't get c***y and go from 5 dollar chips to 25 dollar chips. Lack of bankroll and greed kills

what killed me was I raised my chip level and I made two bets in the amount of what it took one hour to make

Id wait for 1 to 2 losses then id start a string of 7 bets. Always came out on top

Once the greed kicked in I didnt wait for a loss and I started throwin $75 bets at it and threw it all away

Going back next week when I get paid

My goal will be $100 win per day $500 a week to build up the bankroll

[GLC]

Once again thanks for sharing you experiences.

I've been there and done that, for sure.

It does help newbies to hear how easy it is to make a couple of rash decisions that hurt a little.  Ouch is better than losing the house.  It's easy to give advice, but to follow it in the heat of battle takes practice.

Be careful though.  Good spins can last a lot of trips to the casino.  It's easy to let your guard down and then here comes trouble.

Good luck to you and keep us posted,

GLC

[RouletteGhost]

I can't stress enough that on all the past spins and observations i have made this EC bet has a higher hit rate than any other EC bet.

meaning the streaks against it are not as extreme as say high/low etc

a conservative money management plan will succeed as it did for me

by raising my chip size by 5 times the original i bet all my prior winnings in 3 spins which destroyed me

if you can overcome greed, emotion, and see through the lust haze you will succeed

i keep telling myself had i stopped at 300 and not gotten greedy id be $200 richer

i have free 2 nights at atlantic city in december, a free meal, and a $250 table bet that they sent me in the mail, trust I will be there and the pit boss will think what the hell is this guy doing

my fiance kept telling me to stop when i raised to $25 chips she had a scared look. with a bankroll under $300 stick with $5 bets for a total of $15. if you have a thousand then $25 chips should work

do NOT deviate from the plan and dont let greed take over

if you do this system wait for 1 or 2 virtual losses and then either flat bet it or use a soft progression like a hollandish

good day!

[Proofreaders2000]

by raising my chip size by 5 times the original i bet all my prior winnings in 3 spins which destroyed me

A good rule of thumb is to raise your bet one time when you've made four times your original bankroll.

Example: $100 starting bankroll-$400--one unit bet.

$400-$800--two unit bet. 

$800-$1200--three unit bet...

if you can overcome greed, emotion, and see through the lust haze you will succeed

That's why it helps to gamble with at least one friend to help you maintain limits.

[ugly bob]

Do same test with 100 spins max u will get an entirely different picture.

You are right of course Chris555p.

There is an excellent book written by Philip Koetsch. ''Conquering the casinos''. It was written around 2003. The guy was a computer analyst and he breaks a lot of things down nicely in his book.

In fact there is a whole chapter dedicated to the Martingale and the renowned Las Vegas bookstore say that this particular chapter is probably the best piece written on the subject.

Reading this book would certainly enhance anyone's knowledge on MM.

[shazwad]

Just witnessed on Dublinbet live, the middle lines of each dozen missed 15 times!! 

[Chris555p]

Was it with the same dealer or with different dealer....lol??

[Proofreaders2000]

Try it hit and run guys.

*Example*: Play for a win, change wheels or wait
30 minutes before the next session on the same wheel.