Does Using A Progression Mean......

[ddarko]

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Flat betting ONLY for me!

Progressions and betting using french sounding names are the quickest way to lose your bankroll!

WoW we agree for once SAS 

[ddarko]

GLC high quality ec progression are pearls for me. Study properly his progression
and 99% of problems in making $ are resolved.

Fair enough Chris. Would a better bet selection + flat betting not be better ?

Less BR "exposed" means less blood pressure tablets......

[ddarko]

For me....my bet selection is based on recent marque.
If it needs a neg progression then I chose a bad BS.
My only successes in 5 years have been flat bet.
I do bet more chips if I have more than what I planned to win.

[ddarko]

NEVER , ever a negative  progrssion.  But positive  progressions   in conjunction with the UP & Pull method  are   OK and adviseable.
For  recreational purposes only. Play at your own risk.


Tamino

I just cannot use progressions full stop Tamino. All that extra BR on the table is too much for me.

[ddarko]

Flat betting is not the best way to go about things IMO.

I will start a seperate thread called 'Flat Betting vs Progression' and back up why I believe progressions can perform better.

Thanks for your new thread bob  I read it with interest !!!!

[ddarko]

A combination of the two

Care to expand on that please nottophammer ?

[ddarko]

I generally bet flat until I get enough history on the wheel and wins and losses to stray from the flat bet.  But I will regularly use moderate negative progressions and sometimes some very heavy positive progressions.  I often use stop-losses and then re-enter with a higher base bet as well if things aren't exactly working into my evil plan.   

But I am not playing for recreation or entertainment...I am playing to win... and although I can come out on top generally flat betting (if that is the path I would choose to follow)...it's not worth the time involved or the capital risked to make it worthwhile on a flat basis.  But that's just me.  Everyone has different reasons for playing and goals or expectations from individual sessions or combined regular play.

"it's not worth the time involved or the capital risked to make it worthwhile on a flat basis"

But if your bet selection hit at a greater rate, would you flat bet then roulette KEY ?

[ddarko]

Roulette is a game, constructed to give the advantage to the casino.
In order to be able to compete with this we must use every little option we have at our disposal.
Entry and exit points, observation, bet selection and of course money management are options and tools in our quest to win.
It would be stupid not to use each and every one of them to create a valid strategy.

Flat betting only means that you think your bet will come more often than theoretically expected. This is a huge unprovable claim! (not to use another word)
Furthermore if there was a system that wins flat betting, it can easily be turned into a system that wins even more by using the proper progression.

Roulette is a hard game as it is. Use all your options in your fight. You have not the luxury to dismiss the flexibility and adaptability offered by the proper money management.

"This is a huge unprovable claim! (not to use another word)"

Why is it unprovable Kav ?

Not enough test spins or some other reason ?

[ddarko]

if you have right bet selection you don't really need anything else. But that one is not easy. Theoretically impossible. THEORETICALLY.
But the wheel is a mechanical device, don't forget about it. So if somehow you manage to track behaviour of this mechanical device...who knows.

if you have right bet selection you don't really need anything else

EXACTLY !!!!!

[MrJ]

(Back to my progression years)........ Let me ask a question like this, I'll use betting one number JUST AS AN EXAMPLE only. Flat betting, we need a hit within 35 (or 36 spins for a push). What if a person used a progression only to, we'll say, 40 steps.

I'm talking about a small progression, $5 up to 34 spins AND 35-40 at $10 (or even 35-40 at $6)?? Point being, I'm not talking about a progression going to 120 steps and costing 3K. Any thoughts?

Ken

[ddarko]

(Back to my progression years)........ Let me ask a question like this, I'll use betting one number JUST AS AN EXAMPLE only. Flat betting, we need a hit within 35 (or 36 spins for a push). What if a person used a progression only to, we'll say, 40 steps.

I'm talking about a small progression, $5 up to 34 spins AND 35-40 at $10 (or even 35-40 at $6)?? Point being, I'm not talking about a progression going to 120 steps and costing 3K. Any thoughts?

Ken

AS it such a small progression, I guess it's something I'd consider....... but prefer to avoid if at all possible 

[MrJ]

At 40 steps, we are going PAST expectation of a hit (37/38 in reality) but the *ACTUAL* progression itself is only 6 steps (not 40). Killing two birds with one stone, sorta speak.

Ken

[Tamino]

POSITIVE progressiojns  are a choice of winners while  negative progressions  are tools for  losers to chase losses.


Tamino

[muggins]

Flat betting is enough to determine the validity of your bet selection.  However (and this is a big however), a good progression can make a solid bet selection worth playing. It can't rescue a stinker though.

I accidently voted for number two, but I agree with Colbster here, if it doesn't at least break even 9 times out of 10 flat betting it will almost always lose with a progression.  That is how I think anyway.