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Comparing 3 different types of bets

Started by falkor, Oct 28, 06:51 AM 2014

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warrior

Quote from: Chris555p on Oct 28, 10:50 AM 2014
Yes I agree,  but the main thing is that we win more than we loose;
the rest is unimportant.
Not as easy as you think,win more then lose    :(

falkor

I managed to get it working by clicking new session, but it doesn't seem to be doing very well for some reason.

Chris555p

@ Warrior

I think there are some hidden pearls in the forum; Since Ego posted his
system I have been testing it extensively on live Wheel and all I can
is that the results are excellent. Thanks Ego for sharing this great system.

falkor

Ideally we want to be betting 35/37 numbers, but that would be too difficult unless the table is part digital with a "repeat last bet" function.

This bet is a compromise:
6 units on low
4 units on dozen three
1 unit on street 22,23,24

That covers the same as 11 streets, but is easier to place.

That still leaves 4 numbers; what similar bet can leave only 2 numbers besides individual numbers?

Chris555p

@ Falkor

What's wrong with the way that Ego indicates to play ....?
Did u try it.....? If yes what do u think is the hit rate
in percentage terms....?

Turner

I think its on VLS on downloads....rx systems
You may have to download a zip comprising of several by alphabet.
If its there I have tested it. If I forgot I tested it then it tanked in the longrun. All 200 or so tank eventually.
Please dont mistake my post as negative. Its just true.

ignatus

tried this system (the code) it fails badly even with a 6 step progression....
If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

RouletteGhost

The problem is when you lose you lose 5 units. Then you'd have to win 5 times after that to break even.

the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

RouletteGhost

Since the win rate is so high maybe you can bet 3 and 2 for 5 spins if your up restart if you are down then 6 and 4 for 5 spins. Test it that way
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Chris555p

I have been testing the system on live Wheel for
several hours and I'm up by more than 250 units.
I never had to go beyond step 2 of the progression.

The best is to test it manually on live Wheel with a
real dealer spinning the ball. This way there is no room
for error or for misinterpretation.

ego

 There is one thing that i don't like with this code, it bet every trail.
Let say you pick line 3 and only play line 3, then you get a different game.
Each time you see line 3 hitting once and you place your bets against line 3 hitting 7 times in a row...
Then the statistics in the system is right.
But if you mix them with two lines you get more variance.

If i would play this system i would wait for one cycle where line 3 or 4 fall into sleep.
Then play once.
My opinion.
Denial of gamblers fallacy is usually seen in people who has Roulette as last option for a way to wealth, debt covering and a independent lifestyle.  Next step is pretty ugly-
AP - It's not that it can't be done, but rather people don't really have a clue as to the level of fanaticism and outright obsession that it takes to be successful, let alone get to the level where you can take money out of the casinos on a regular basis. Out of 1,000 people that earnestly try, maybe only one will make it.

ignatus

Live-spins from dublinbet.........6 step progression
If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

falkor

This is the best bet selection I can find for covering 35/37 numbers:
18 Low
12 Dozen Three
4 Quad 19,20,22,23
1 Number 24

It's not as convenient as the others though. I will test this system with numbers and different progressions and see what results I come up with. The basic concept is that covering most of the board is more affordable, but the progression needs to effectively recover from:
All but 6 numbers: 8 losses
All but 3 numbers: 6 losses
All but 2 numbers: 5 losses

ego's system is based on this concept, but the progression seems to be reason why it's showing a losing streak in the above graphs; the progression is staggered so it relies on stability following a losing streak, but most times the chaos continues with a storm of mini losing streaks.

falkor

My spread sheet seems to have made some incorrect calculations regarding progressions on numbers. Firstly, traditional progressions do not have enough steps to recover the bankroll for the amount of losses we are talking about. Secondly, you are forced to take extra profit besides 1 unit, so you have more flexibility using other sections to cover the same amount of numbers for just 1 unit. Finally, I am still testing Gambler's Fallacy to see if those losses can be reduced by betting against numbers that have appeared most recently (switching the bet might also have the same effect); for example, I was only getting a maximum of 9 losses in a row betting 24 numbers @ 100K spins, but according to my predictions under normal circumstances those losses should be way higher.

35/37 profit 1

1      1
2      36
3      1296

34/37 profit 2

1      1
2      18
3      324

33/37 profit 3

1      1
2      12
3      144
4      1728

32/37 profit 4

1      1
2      9
3      81
4      729

31/37 profit 5

30/37 profit 6

1      1
2      6
3      36
4      216
5      1296

29/37 profit 7

28/37 profit 8

27/37 profit 9

1      1
2      4
3      16
4      64
5      256
6      1024

26/37 profit 10

25/37 profit 11

24/37 profit 12

1      1
2      3
3      9
4      27
5      81
6      243
7      729

falkor

30/37 profit 6

1      1
2      6
3      36
4      216
5      1296

30/37 profit 1 (using Low and 3rd Dozen)

1 3   2
2 18   12
3 108   72
4 648   432

30/37 profit 1 (using Double Streets)

1   1   1   1   1
6   6   6   6   6
36   36   36   36   36
216   216   216   216   216
1296   1296   1296   1296   1296

Looks worse than I thought!

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