foolproof progression

[iggiv]

there is also such a thing as a positive progression, it's  smarter than negative, it tries to compensate on losses betting more on winning, but i don't believe in it either.

[falkor]

What has worked for you in terms of bet selection then?

[RouletteGhost]

1 double street from each dozen as an EC bet works for chris he stated that many many times

[falkor]

ok, let me re-test that as I used the wrong board layout for determining the middle ds.

[RouletteGhost]

I use the middle double streets not sure if chris does

Choose 1 double street from each dozen and test them

Can be 1 thru 6, 13 thru 18, and 25 thru 30
Or any other combination

[falkor]

I just double-checked and I had the Double Streets selected correctly, but they came out equal to their counterparts over 100K spins. There was no advantage/disadvantage in my testing.

[iggiv]

it's too complicated to explain, there is also a gut feeling. let's say i look at the wheel and try to see what's goin on. it took years for me. and i can't claim i am winning big time. i am finding new things all the time trying to improve my game. but i am convinced u gotta look at the wheel to find out what's goin on on it.

[falkor]

Would that be based on wheel bias/section betting? Or does "see what's going on" mean looking for mathematical number patterns with past spins?

[iggiv]

there are certain patterns on the wheel. but they are not so simple. and i find new ones all the time. So...No, it's not about bias.
It's a hit-n-run game.

To make things clear: no, my bet selection won't hold for thousands spins in a row like you guys try to find a right method, it will lose. It is not a holy grail.

[RouletteGhost]

hit and run is key

people talk about 100,000 spin tests, 1 million spin test and that is rubbish

test 100-1000 spins max

that one streak against the 3 middle doublestreets of 10 in a row in 100,000 spins means nothing to me

[iggiv]

that's right. Nothing can beat roulette on many spins in a row. And i would say, don't test even 100 spins in a row. try a couple of spins, then skip and then try again.

[falkor]

ok cheers for your insights!

[RouletteGhost]

i know if i play the 3 center double streets i will get many hits and that progressions are typically safe. i also know if i stay at the table i will hit a string of 5 or 6 losses every now and then and it will kill me.

i think the key here is combining different system in the sessions.

maybe a martingale on 3 different double streets and when you hit (most likely you will, but if you continuously do this you will lose) goto a different method like bet on all double streets except for 1 that just hit for example

play a strategy when you win move to a different one.

if i goto the casino right now and martingale my 3 center double streets i will most likely hit before it gets crazy but if i stay at the table for a half hour, i will lose

if i go up to a table and play 11 streets i will most likely win, but if i do this for 5 spins i may lose. so the key is do one thing, win then move on to the next

[iggiv]

using different methods helps. But table bet selection loses frequently.

[MrJ]

"let's say i look at the wheel and try to see what's goin on. it took years for me" >>> I agree 100%, myself included.

Ken