Some ideas on table layout betting. (Subject modified)

[nottophammer]

Hi Jim
I like any empty chart, like turners way numbers incolumn A.

Warrior is turners 12 units won by the 7th spin.

[warrior]

Are you suggesting it's one of the 4 CEH bets Warrior ?

Or is this quote just a blast from the past ?


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30 session means something different to every one I have test system until I fall asleep and forget where I was so meaning you don't need to test for 100000 spins and graph mean nothing in this game    having graphs of say 750 spins and you see the line line go up at 650 really think of the time you need in a casino to reach that number . Now your comment about CEH  at the time we did a lot of work on Vls but with all those people working to find this elusive bet we all came out short but there were a lot of things that the sight had on the game that stuck with me ,I have not lost my house that that would be something positive I got from the info. I stopped testing systems a year ago if I see something  I would test it real money in real casino environment ,and see how long it would take to lose my patience .that would tell me if the system was crap usually no more than 72 spins. Being a realist helps to not be blinded by all the crap  of gambling that goes around. It's been a long time since Vls days that CEH caused a forum feud that was terrible  and a lot of people got scammed by this guy .
I remember that people gave money to be part of a club  that never was fruitful , I did make him an offer  but he refused . In Sicily that would be a no no . At the time I offered him that if he did not give the bet I would marry his daughter and I would take all his money he refused I did not marry his daughter because i couldn't find him or her  just like BET LOL. I knew that his name would come  but let me a sure you that this way of playing I found my self with a lot of hard work.

[JimmieB]

Hi NTP,

Hope you're not getting a nose bleed with the hammers being so high

Warrior advised the sessions I posted in reply #25 also won the 12 units with the exception of the last one due to an error.

Do you have any ideas what it might be?

Jim

[warrior]

The old guys know me so I really don't like to send  people  on a goose chase  but there are guys that jump form  system  to system  without really getting to know the game ,they keep posting and wasting space on forums this thread was meant for brainstorming . When the mind gets stagnant we get sick . Look at Steve he put all his energy in the physics of the game and he's very successful .

[warrior]

I remember Hermes I miss that guy but I used to pick that guys brain all the time he would call me a fox lol but he would give hints on things ,I then would figure it out without even knowing I did it.
Hint Hermes 6 x6 but it's not his way of betting because it loses in short term of cycles. The way of positioning of the bets is key . But getting rid of the carcass is also important .

[ddarko]

Are you suggesting it's one of the 4 CEH bets Warrior ?

Or is this quote just a blast from the past ?


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30 session means something different to every one I have test system until I fall asleep and forget where I was so meaning you don't need to test for 100000 spins and graph mean nothing in this game    having graphs of say 750 spins and you see the line line go up at 650 really think of the time you need in a casino to reach that number . Now your comment about CEH  at the time we did a lot of work on Vls but with all those people working to find this elusive bet we all came out short but there were a lot of things that the sight had on the game that stuck with me ,I have not lost my house that that would be something positive I got from the info. I stopped testing systems a year ago if I see something  I would test it real money in real casino environment ,and see how long it would take to lose my patience .that would tell me if the system was crap usually no more than 72 spins. Being a realist helps to not be blinded by all the crap  of gambling that goes around. It's been a long time since Vls days that CEH caused a forum feud that was terrible  and a lot of people got scammed by this guy .
I remember that people gave money to be part of a club  that never was fruitful , I did make him an offer  but he refused . In Sicily that would be a no no . At the time I offered him that if he did not give the bet I would marry his daughter and I would take all his money he refused I did not marry his daughter because i couldn't find him or her  just like BET LOL. I knew that his name would come  but let me a sure you that this way of playing I found my self with a lot of hard work.

Right, so your not suggesting it's one of the four bets 

I followed what you posted over at vls at the time, so I know you tried hard to find those bets. BTW, just because people got turned down for the club, it doesn't mean there isn't a club.

All the money got you was a chance to JOIN the club.

Thanks for getting back to me

[warrior]

Right, so your not suggesting it's one of the four bets 

I followed what you posted over at vls at the time, so I know you tried hard to find those bets. BTW, just because people got turned down for the club, it doesn't mean there isn't a club.

All the money got you was a chance to JOIN the club.

Thanks for getting back to me

That's true but the real offer I made joking aside I would give him a % of what I would make, signed  document for security if the bet was revealed to me but he turned it down .RED FLAG  where I come from .

[warrior]

Any thing done with bank transfers in my view it should be taken with caution .

[ddarko]

That's true but the real offer I made joking aside I would give him a % of what I would make, signed  document for security ,but he turned it down .RED FLAG  where I come from .

I'm not saying I'm right warrior, but it's possible. Your red flag comment is totally understandable 

I made some more points about it here :-

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=3943.msg95471#msg95471

On the off chance anybody is interested......

[klw]

If betting starts straight away as you have to catch them early,then we must be talking line repeats,they often repeat after 1 or 2 new lines have appeared and this for me is where profit is most likely to be made.if you start adding a chip looking for the number repeat as well then bets will soon mount up and profit will be depend on a number repeating at some stage. This May or may not be the basis of the system but to my limited thinking lol I don't see what else it can be. I also believe there is a second part to the system , I've no idea what this is but have noticed a sweet spot ( from limited observations ) around spins 12 to 16 where we often get a line hitting for a second time. Is any of this correct or close Warrior. ?

[warrior]

Ok I'm back for a little while. Your on the right track. a line will repeat but we can not look at line in that sense you must look at all 37 numbers and what happens with a cycle. The roulette wheel is like a cup and the ball is water once the ball hits the numbers it becomes the cup or in this case the wheel.
The  cup only gets full after it's made 37 spins then we empty it and start over.
One has to ask him self what happens at the end of 37 spin and reverse that and wala you got it .

[warrior]

Recap the law of third states that in 37/38 spin there will be so many repeats 1 2 or 3 time and there will be numbers that come out once and there will be a third that won't show .
Now does any one know the ones  that  won't show of coarse not , the casinos would shut the table down for ever . It's the last 12 to 14 numbers that don't show is the key to winning . Hitting on one of these numbers will make you a winner.

[warrior]

There's 3 parts to the bet for the ones needing to know . The first stage is all flat bet , second stage May or may not require progression , third stage just to pass the time wagering so I don't get bored,or just leave for a break.

[JimmieB]

Flat bet on the repeats until you have 4 complete lines, then bet on the remaining 2 with a progression until a fith line fills then start over. I'm thinking you are intially taking advantage of the repeats, then taking advantage of the "sleepers". You could try and fill all 6 however one of the streets might not complete, or, flat bet until you have 3 complete (as you mentioned 3 being of interest) then bet the remaining 3.....if this isn't close I'm stumped

[Turner]

Flat bet on the repeats until you have 4 complete lines, then bet on the remaining 2 with a progression until a fith line fills then start over. I'm thinking you are intially taking advantage of the repeats, then taking advantage of the "sleepers". You could try and fill all 6 however one of the streets might not complete, or, flat bet until you have 3 complete (as you mentioned 3 being of interest) then bet the remaining 3.....if this isn't close I'm stumped

That method doesnt give me 12u on my example though.

I can get 12u with a very nice idea...still working on it.

its better than sudoku I suppose