Some ideas on table layout betting. (Subject modified)

[RouletteGhost]

Amen iggiv

[warrior]

This thread was open in Testing Zone. "Calling on all roulette testers". Those who call on roulette testers in a Testing Zone, usually give clear instructions how when and what to test. If this thread continues like this just to keep people interested without saying much, it will go first to the Humour section, second it is gonna be locked, third it is gonna be deleted and then I will open a new thread with the subject "Beware of Greeks bearing gifts". And  will ask anyone not to trust those who open threads with no intention to give a true info. And not to communicate with them privately in order to pay them for the desired info. Thank you for your understanding.

I have been for a few good years in those forums and remember some stories back a few years ago and have a gut feeling  (and something more to believe)  that this is where this story goes. So i would like to make this kind of performance shorter. And i am not alone on this.

You can close if you want I don't see you contributing to anything and there is no arguing going on here  so whats the problem ? Already the method was given now if people can't  figure out it's not my problem .

Here's a a story for you iggi

There was once a boy he loved to play baseball but the coach would never  play him he wasn't very good,so one day his dad set something up for his birthday ,he got to pitch for the first time and it was in the finales and he strikes out everyone ,the smile on his face was increasing with joy as he looked at his father with excitement , his team mates would parade him around . And then then the worst thing in life just happen the little boy finds out that his dad set every thing up with the both coaches for them to throw the game so he can see his little boy happy he would fall in the greatest sadness of his life . The moral of the story is we appreciate when we achieve things on are own and not given to us .

Now you do what you want if it's power your looking for you can have because I know I'm in the 99% and just by reading you comments your in the 1 %  figure that one .

[warrior]

I will logout now for this place has become stale I will no be be back ,have fun with your losing systems.good bye.

[warrior]

Here is something for you in a 37 spin cycle,how many times  will a line containing 6 numbers show 2 new numbers and only 2. I'm working on something that takes advantage of runs and changes of numbers that  I think every one will be interested in.This idea will try and avoid sleepers towards the end of the cycle,but can also produce a profit if money management  is done Accurate .This idea with a little help from the pros ,the ones that have been at for a while no offence to the new bees ha ha,but I'm interested in people that are not going to jump from system to system although we have all done it me included.There has to be a weakness in this game ,and we all know that in 37 spins all numbers will not show. We all have tried to capitalize on this but always come short .

What I would like to see is every line in there order 123456 and underneath each line the result of 2 different numbers in the order they come up. This will be done for 37 spins of the wheel ,and also with this we need to know when a line shows a new number but fails to produce a second new number,this usually will happen when all the lines produce the 2 new ones and only one line left will show a new number and fail to produce the second number therefore sleeper five meaning the 5 numbers left did not show or the line slept for the entire 37 spins.

We know that in 37 spins there will be numbers that show and numbers that repeat and number will not come up. I won't get into the break down you can find this on every forum.

If interested please let me know and will try  to win more session then not. Questions always welcome.

Warrior

Attention iggiv here is the method  but from guess you gave up playing along time ago and feel you have some kind of authority  ,but the last time I checked you haven't contributed to any new material in years  you comment on everyone's thread and you are very opinionated on how to tell people that every thing loses .

[iggiv]

I play differently. But that does not matter. What matters is that i have some info which makes me think what i think.
If you come to ask to test your method then tell what to test exactly. For many pages goes something with hints. and promises.  But i would not even say something if i did not know something else. About what happened a few years ago.

i also gave some hints on how i think is better to play, but i did not open threads to pull guys legs to confuse them and even drive some people crazy and even worse...

It is not about showing authority or ego or whatever. I don't want people to be lured by false promises into paying their money as it already happened. And as i already said, i have some info on what happened some time ago and who was playing who. y
And by the way it was not me, but rather another mod who first payed attention at what kind of weird thing is happening with this thread...

And i did not say that everything always loses. There are smart ways to play roulette and win.

[iggiv]

And by the way you already said some time ago that i want power. You even called me "danger" when i became a mod. I don't care. I don't want any power and i don't have it. All i want is to keep this forum clean from crooks and be with honest people which are not trying to drive anyone crazy and deceive anyone with tricky "hints" and promises then sucking out their money. We already had been there.

[Orochi]

This week i didn't have time to work on the tracker, still unfinished.On weekend i promise i will release the tracker.

Warrior only try to open people eyes, this is a new concept of playing, so we are testing it! He didn't promise anything. He share an idea, and i appreciate that.

Thanks warrior 

And iggiv what is your problem ?! What the hell warrior did wrong?

And guys chill out! 

[iggiv]

Sharing an idea is one thing, confusing with promises is another. And there are some other things i don't wanna go into. They are in the past.

All i am asking is this: if you post in testing area, if you call people to test, tell them what and how to test. I can come up with some stuff which will not have much sense but will sound like i share. "I will give you an idea how to avoid sleepers in cycle of 37 numbers and instead of sleepers bet on numbers which will come up. We will take dozens. And watch when numbers in dozens will change. Let's take 1,2, 3....12. Instead of numbers which came up before will come another numbers. 4 and 4 only. The way we will track new numbers which come in this dozen we will know which numbers came instead of old ones to avoid sleepers."

People will ask me: ok, can you specify?

And i will answer: "there are different ways to play this but all of them will win. If you work on it it will be very rewarding."
Nothing concrete. Just on the surface looks like I know something. Cool, huh?

Just 3 days before this guy was discussing other stuff and then out of sudden he calls all roulette testers to tell them something magical that hard to get. But avoiding anything more or less concrete...

The thing is that very similar things happen in the past already. And this blaming for desire of power. It is not new either.
And such things ended up as a big scam, buddy. I don't want such things to repeat again. That's it.

If you have something concrete to test, fine. If you want some ideas to share, fine. But don't try to pretend that you have some mysterious "knowledge" of  consistent winning in your pocket to drive people crazy and trust you with their money for your "knowledge". Just 3 days befor it he did not have it and was discussing other stuff, and then out of sudden came out  promising golden mounts.

That's is not a new thing, i repeat myself again. Bad things already happened and they started very similarly. With empty "smart" promising words and nothing concrete. And  some people did fall for it...

[vladir]

Ahah. I think its a problem of language here . Specifically the threads title.  Warrior is just sharing is ideas here and nothings wrong with that. The issue I see is the threads title.If one calls for rx testing, it implies coding. And coding implies very clear and specified requirements... wich we dont have. Thats the only problem I see here....

[falkor]

Maybe its me, but i still dont know how when and howmuch to bet with this info. Im just back from a casino trip and did try a few different ways on ds and still lost.

I guess most of the people have the same feeling. And i am not sure that the this thread is intended to give any real info on the ways to bet. It looks more like this thread is intended to keep people very interested.

The tests are to find out the answer to this, and I've already stated we are not yet in a position to have exact instructions until the tests have been complete:
"I can't say yet until all the tests have finished, bet selection determined for all situations during the chaotic stage, and then finally with that strategy put to the test to find out the maximum losing streak. Once we know the maximum losing streak for the definitive strategy then we can figure out the progression.

But yeah - we will be starting a progression on 3 - but am not yet in a position to crunch any numbers."

The system involves different aspects:
1) Concept/idea = done
2) Bet Selection = 75% complete
3) Money Management = 25% complete

I have tested (1) and posted a spreadsheet showing the potential. We should all know bet selection well now, but I continue to run tests to find out the best selection for different situations. Money management we know involves flat-betting then different progression depending on the spin number and balance. Just because everything is not set in stone right now.... I mean, I can understand if we were just teasing people without doing any testing to progress it, but I am giving up half my sleeping time for this. And you guys need to make some effort too! Again, the spreadsheet should be enough to show the potential. However, if you don't want people knowing how to never lose at roulette then I can understand why this topic should be locked and possibly deleted.

[bbbbbb128]

MOD:I approved this just for the comedy value

Hi warrior my dear friend

i had been reading your method for the past few days with great interest 
i been thinking and testing around with your theories 

i am not active in forums, but i am always reading interesting post such as yours.
This is my first post and i registered a account just to THANK you 
i would like to THANK you for your ideas and sharing before this thread is deleted 
you are a good generous man. i wish you good health and big winnings. 

[falkor]

I would be interested to know how the majority feel about this, so I just posted a new poll: link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15046.0

[SamNL]

This week i didn't have time to work on the tracker, still unfinished.On weekend i promise i will release the tracker.

Looking forward to the tracker Orochi 

[falkor]

These tests are just not happening today, but I think it's clear that we should not bet above 4 open DSs unless there's one or more repeats or it drops back down to 3. In the worst case scenario we may have to avoid DS4 unless there's a repeat, so maybe the system is only completely invincible playing 5 DSs - playing 3 we might lose 1 set in 1000, but we are talking 10 units max.

I will move onto actually simulating bets to see:
1) Longest losing streak before hitting DS1
2) How often does playing max 3 DSs miss DS1 or even DS2

So, to begin with, I will only be simulating this till the first win, but most sets will contain between 3-10 wins.

[iggiv]

if people wanna go on with testing i have nothing against it. So far i saw some people saying that they were testing but i did not see WHAT EXACTLY they were testing. I don't mind if they do of course, but please then clarify what do u test how and when. As usual with testing.

And i don't mind if Warrior himself would clarify all this and tell what to test and how. But you can clearly see that it was not his intention from the beginning. His intention was to draw attention to himself to tell everybody that he "has something". Except of this everything has been very unclear.

That's how quite a few people were scammed a few years ago. First to draw their attention for long time to assure them that "there is something there", drive many crazy and drive attention for having fun with the whole story, then getting some money from those who  fell for it. Then disappear and appear under another nick and pretend to be a regular guy looking for roulette solution. Till the next time when all the previous story is forgotten.

I have been watching this guy for long time. But i did not pay attention at this thread first. Another mod did.