Some ideas on table layout betting. (Subject modified)

[RFMAXX]

look at post 303 from warrior:

In the quote above, there were two numbers missing from the series of 37 numbers that were posted by falkor and then RFMAXX for study.  Given these two numbers (in red below), would you bet this session differently? Also, i see one loss and two wins.  Does that mean you only bet three times in this session?

15 33 20 4 0 30 10 30 11 4 10 28 2 21
                                                                                 W on the 21 , even better no L on the 2


W on the 21? No L on the 2?
It seems, he does not play the rules we figured out.

also take a look at the WL string to orochis excel file. warrior switches the play style. but i have to figure out why and when.
Spin   Number   DS   Profit         
1   5   1         bet 1 unit on ds 1   
2   6   1   5   w   close ds1   
3   30   5         bet 1 unit on ds 5   
4   10   2   4   L   DS 1 belongs to dozen 1 and a ds in the dozen is closed so do not bet   
5   5   1         DS 1 belongs to dozen 1 and a ds in the dozen is closed so do not bet   
6   27   5         close ds 5   
7   19   4         bet 1 unit on ds 4   
8   34   6   3   L   closed ds   
9   25   5      L   closed ds   
10   21   4         close ds 4, 1 unit ds 1+5 because of repeaters   
11   15   3   1   L   betting ds 2,3,6 ?   
12   2   1   -2      betting ds 2,3,6 ?   
13   8   2   1      win, +6 -3 = 3, close ds 2 betting ds 3,6 , start progression   
14   30   5   -1      lost, -2 betting ds 3,6             3 units each?
15   4   1   -7      lost, -6 betting ds 3,6    8 units each?
16   21   4   -23      lost, -16 betting ds 3,6   9 units each?
17   3   4   -41      lost, -18 betting ds 3,6   14 units each?
18   35   6   15      win, + 56, close 6 play last ds 3 1 unit   
19   13   3   20      win, +5   

[SamNL]

In Watch Mode you wait for the current DS to repeat/close between DS 2 closing and DS 4 closing (we could also include between DS 1 closing and DS 2 closing, but if we get the right trigger we would have to play up to 5 DSs). The first possible trigger is a repeat, which means we might jump on the DS that repeated awaiting closure. the second trigger is that the DS closed after a medium-long gap, say, 8 spins or more. The following DS may then be due within 1-2 spins, so your progression might be 100,200,400. If all DSs close too quickly and you haven't observed any repeats or decent sized gaps then you have to forfeit the set.

Ah, that explains it.

Thank you Falkor

[falkor]

RFMAXX, I tested the dozen theory out myself and I can't see any advantage, but following the repeats is for sure rewarding. We can't randomly pick 3/5 DSs that each have the same chance of hitting because if we get it wrong then our BR is eaten up. Though it may not affect us much in the short-term we might one day have to forfeit a whole session of 500 instead of the 1 set. We are best to not bet any DSs unless there's a repeat or below 4 open/closed.

[RFMAXX]

hi falkor,

but how warrior plays like this on

15 33 20 4 0 30 10 30 11 4 10 28 2 21

only one w? no L? why does he not bet every ds as it comes in? thats what he stated before.

i am testing day and night to get the best possible results. i'll let you guys know, if i found something new

[falkor]

Nice, do  we get the ones that lead to a loss as well?

Nothing loses unless we get to watch mode and nothing happens in there. In there its like poker: you keep folding small amounts until you get the right cards then you put all your money on the table!   

[falkor]

hi falkor,

but how warrior plays like this on

15 33 20 4 0 30 10 30 11 4 10 28 2 21

only one w? no L? why does he not bet every ds as it comes in? thats what he stated before.

i am testing day and night to get the best possible results. i'll let you guys know, if i found something new

I think he must spend a lot of time in watch mode looking for the golden opportunity based on DSs closing/repeating on different spin numbers. That's the only way you will make big money.

[RFMAXX]

like this?

Post 303               
Spin   DS            Mode
15   3            watch mode
33   6            watch mode
20   4            watch mode
4   1            watch mode
0   0            watch mode
30   5            watch mode
10   2            watch mode
30   5      remain open, repeater      watch mode
11   2      close ds 2      watch mode
4   1      remain open, repeater      watch mode
10   2            watch mode
28   5      close ds 5      watch mode
2   1      close ds 1      watch mode
21   4   bet 3,4,6   W      Bet Mode

wait till 3 ds closed

[falkor]

To play Watch Mode effectively we are going to have to learn a few combinations of variables. The biggest profits will be made after DS 3 closes and when DS 4 closes, but to predict whether DS 4/5 is due in 12 spins or 4 spins you need to take into account:
*DS 1 spin number
*DS 2 spin number
*DS 3 spin number
*Number of repeats prior to DS 1,2 and 3 closing

With that information you can gauge exactly how big to place the bet based on the max losing streak and potential progression steps, but the average will always be in your favour.

A good example is re-attached below from a few pages ago:
*DS 3 closed on spin 18. That tells us that DS 4 is due in 12 spins max (average 2)
*DS 2 closed on spin 10. That doesn't change anything for this example as it closed very quickly.
*DS 1 closed on spin 9. In combination that tells us that DS 4 is due in 5 spins max (average 1)
*Any repeats would have narrowed it down to 4 spins

I think I'll move onto developing this part of the system next.

[Still]

If I bet 5 DS Iwin nearly 80 out of 100?

winkel, could you provide a link to that system? That's pretty good.

[winkel]

That's pretty good.

You´re joking, aren´t you

Playing 1 ds is a hitrate of 16.67%
Playing 5 ds is a hitrate of 83.35% - Zero

[winkel]

@all

this has changed from "I know which DS is next to show up" to "Watch Mode" and a dangerous Progression with a  final All in.
Based on a statistic with much to less data. It is Bold Play now.

A Hype ends always in a depression

[nottophammer]

490 replies are we any the wiser, with falkors tests, you'd one day meet the one you never thought you'd see, but its more info to ponder in the battle with the wheel.

[atlantis]

Regarding the DS lines...

It seems a (ahem) "well-known vendor" has cracked the problem already, attributing it to discovered combo "waves" - at least according to:
link:://:.roulettesformulacbw.com/

A demo video of it in action here:
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=giF5Wz8TbBU

Maybe the answer to spiralling profits is there - or then again, maybe NOT!?
It is claimed it has NEVER LOST!!!

Phew! So there we are - problem solved!  See you in the millionaire's lounge!

Regards,
A.

[Turner]

A....
He doesnt play the right line (19/24) in the demo.
He plays 22/27.
After the book wouldnt stand up, I was waiting for "not 1, not 2 but 3 Titanium tipped fountain pens" and one of those magic cloths that clean anything

[atlantis]

After the book wouldnt stand up, I was waiting for "not 1, not 2 but 3 Titanium tipped fountain pens" and one of those magic cloths that clean anything