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SPLIT EMPIRE

Started by Dane, Dec 17, 08:39 AM 2014

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Dane

After some time in Fun Mode  :)
I feel like sharing a small Empire with you.
It is rather easy to rule in this Empire with flat betting splits or cheveaux.

In area 0-36 there are 60 splits. We´ll concentrate on the ones in area 0-18.
:)
0-1  Start by occupying this split or cheval. Rather slowly we might expand our Empire by adding more splits to our betting in this order:
0-2
0-3
1-2
2-3
1-4
2-5
3-6
4-5
5-6   And so forth and so on. Please notice that our Empire is United and collected!

The expansion takes place, when we see a series on the 3RD dozen:
Only right after exactly two in a row from area 25-36 we add ONE split to our betting
(if the dozen series is prolongued, we don´t expand more, before a new high dozen series comes).

When we get THREE OR FOUR HITS AT THE SAME TIME,
we humbly leave ONE of the splits. The highest one. Examples:
If 0-1, 0-2 and 0-3 are occupied, when Zero comes, we leave 0-3.
If 0-1, 0-2, 0-3, 1-2, 2-3, 1-4 and 2-5 are occupied, when 2 comes, we leave 2-5.
                                                                                                                          GOOD LUCK!
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Rewster88

Dane,

Like the idea! but after testing i had the 0-1,,,,0-2,,,0-3 covered, and then the 0,1,2,3 didn't come up for 43 spins ( on the way i also covered 1-2, 2-3) .Played with 5 unit bets, thank god it was fake money lol.  So thats what happens sometimes. Before that i was up about 250 units so still like the play thanks to that!!

greets R

Dane

Quote from: Rewster88 on Dec 17, 02:10 PM 2014
Dane,

Like the idea! but after testing i had the 0-1,,,,0-2,,,0-3 covered, and then the 0,1,2,3 didn't come up for 43 spins ( on the way i also covered 1-2, 2-3) .Played with 5 unit bets, thank god it was fake money lol.  So thats what happens sometimes. Before that i was up about 250 units so still like the play thanks to that!!

greets R

R,
Yes, we ought to play with fake money for some time before risking anything.
So "The first four" didn´t come up for 43 spins? I consulted a scientific calculator:
(33/37)^43= 0.0073017217633629.
The probability that the 3RD dozen does NOT appear twice in two spins:
1-(12/37)^2= 0.8948137326515705.

0.8948137326515705^42= 0.0093922772323029834.

Back to Fun Mode and fake money :)

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Dane

As rulers of this Empire
it is most important for us not to leave an area too early!
Reducing our occupied area ONLY RIGHT AFTER THREE
HITS AT THE SAME TIME might be an improvement.
I´ll give it a try!  :)
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psimoes

Hi Dane, don't want to spoil anything, but the probabilities mean nothing here. Your calculations are correct, but the sad truth is 33/37 could be any four numbers, in any specific order and by no means unique. Likewise, 12/37 could be any 12 numbers, unique or not, and not even specific to any dozen on the carpet. The wheel couldn't care less and I fell for it until recently.
There's no way around it AFAIK (YET! I'm not giving up). We can't rely on Math here, only on Lady Luck.
[Math+1] beats a Math game

Dane

Quote from: psimoes on Dec 18, 09:56 AM 2014
Hi Dane, don't want to spoil anything, but the probabilities mean nothing here. Your calculations are correct, but the sad truth is 33/37 could be any four numbers, in any specific order and by no means unique. Likewise, 12/37 could be any 12 numbers, unique or not, and not even specific to any dozen on the carpet. The wheel couldn't care less and I fell for it until recently.
There's no way around it AFAIK (YET! I'm not giving up). We can't rely on Math here, only on Lady Luck.

Hi, you are not spoiling anything  :)
The Goddess of Fortune might have something to do.

BUT I REFUSE TO THROW MATH AND PROBABILITIES AWAY!

Of course I know that 33/37 could be any numbers in any specific order (by no means unique).
33/37, however, does matter, if you are wagering four numbers.
And the probabilities of a series of losses with any numbers wagered should be taken into consideration.
In this SPLIT EMPIRE the probabilities of certain hits should be compared to the probability of certain losses.
Those probabilies are important when dealing with expansion or the opposite here.
(12/27)^2 (3RD Dozen at least twice in a row) was the chosen signal for expanding the Empire.

With 6/37 the expansion would be a little more frequent! It might be better!
We could choose to expand right after the occurence of the highest DS (31-36).
Just an example. You don´t have to remind be that it is by no means unique  :)
The rules are not written in stones. Small changes might mean much!
After calculating a  new idea should be tested. Say TRIAL AND ERROR IN FUN MODE!
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psimoes

Quote33/37, however, does matter, if you are wagering four numbers.

You´re right, there. It does matter in terms of MM.

Cheers
[Math+1] beats a Math game

Dane

As predicted the EMPIRE grew bigger
with the chosen 6/37 for expansion:  All splits in area 0-15 occupied.
At a real table it might be difficult to place all the chips.
This version may be better suited for Touchbed Roulette (Multiroulette)
with access to "Rebet".
It might be rather expensive too!
A somewhat similar procedure could be developed on
Carreaux, Squares, Corners, Squads......
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Dane

The expansion right after 31-36 was too wild!
Expansion only right after 34-36 seems to be much better.
And I leave the highest occupied split only right after
hitting exactly THREE splits at the same time.
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RouletteGhost

Will try a variation of this. As 25 thru 36 hits add one split between 1 and 24 randomly
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

link:[url="s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o"]s://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nmJKY59NX8o[/url]

Dane

Quote from: RouletteGhost on Dec 22, 07:03 AM 2014
Will try a variation of this. As 25 thru 36 hits add one split between 1 and 24 randomly

Good luck!
It is difficult to say which variation is the the best.
In my continued test series I just lost  :ooh:
after reducing right after three hits at the same time.
But I still like the idea of leaving the highest split right after
more hits at the same time. So my NEXT variation
should be with reducing after FOUR hits at the same time.
Of course it would differ from a version with randomly chosen splits.
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nottophammer

Quote from: Dane on Dec 17, 08:39 AM 2014
After some time in Fun Mode  :)
I feel like sharing a small Empire with you.
It is rather easy to rule in this Empire with flat betting splits or cheveaux.

In area 0-36 there are 60 splits. We´ll concentrate on the ones in area 0-18.
:)
0-1  Start by occupying this split or cheval. Rather slowly we might expand our Empire by adding more splits to our betting in this order:
0-2
0-3
1-2
2-3
1-4
2-5
3-6
4-5
5-6   And so forth and so on. Please notice that our Empire is United and collected!

The expansion takes place, when we see a series on the 3RD dozen:
Only right after exactly two in a row from area 25-36 we add ONE split to our betting
(if the dozen series is prolongued, we don´t expand more, before a new high dozen series comes).

When we get THREE OR FOUR HITS AT THE SAME TIME,
we humbly leave ONE of the splits. The highest one. Examples:
If 0-1, 0-2 and 0-3 are occupied, when Zero comes, we leave 0-3.
If 0-1, 0-2, 0-3, 1-2, 2-3, 1-4 and 2-5 are occupied, when 2 comes, we leave 2-5.
                                                                                                                          GOOD LUCK!
Dane would it be better to build this empire down the middle column first , then conquere the outsiders C1 & C3
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Dane

Quote from: nottophammer on Dec 22, 08:58 AM 2014
Dane would it be better to build this empire down the middle column first , then conquere the outsiders C1 & C3

And why would it be better?
Maybe because the Empire
is growing a bit faster
in the first period?
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nottophammer

And why would it be better?

Dane i'm asking you, As your the architect
How do you win at roulette, simple, make the right decision

Dane

Quote from: nottophammer on Dec 22, 02:17 PM 2014
And why would it be better?

Dane i'm asking you, As your the architect

Thanks for your suggestion  :)
I am not convinced that it would be better.
The procedure is not written in stones.
I am working on another version..............
TTT (Things Take Time)!
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