Even Odds

[psimoes]

With the Baddest Run Yet all three progressions made a profit. Interestingly biggest drawdowns coincided at the same spin.

[psimoes]

Answering my own observation, it's because at that point there are 26 losses against 13 wins. Flat-betting on the entire session wouldn't stand a chance and progressions profit because by the end the wins start to outweight the losses.

The clusters of wins and losses look like short cycles within a much longer cycle. Like harmonics of a fundamental frequency although they're anything but periodical, right? It's only noise.

[Rewster88]

not bad,

start BR 300

on an draw or near a draw I do not progress up.(did in first few sessions)


progression = 5-10-20-40----20-40-80

in testing I've not see more than 20 bet on step 1.


NH=new high
PR=progression up or down


300                      PR up to 10
300                      PR up to 20 ( after this I didn't progress on draw anymore)
420 NH
450 NH
440
490 NH
520 NH
530 NH
520
570 NH
570
610 NH
590
590
590
670 NH
660
700 NH
=====
+400


R

[Rewster88]

continue...

this one I progress up on draw:

700
720 NH
720
735 NH
735
775 NH
785 NH
785
785
785
945 NH
955 NH
965 NH
975 NH
1000 NH


Q:
say that we are on 1000 NH, on the next session we are @ spin 8 and progression = 20.   (5,10,20)

now on spin 8 we are @ 1020 NH. Do you go straight back to base bet 5 units? or do you finish the session with 20?

because I think there are few options:

aggressive= on draw progress up + continue progression up to 12 spins
mild         = on draw don't progress + back to base bet on new high IN session.



ps..

I think you created a monster! great job

tested !and! survived a lot of spins from RNG willhell

We can also apply this on dozens an streets you think? On the other hand, why should we do that if this works great, think that we should stop searching for more and just test this until the titanic floats up again.



R

[RouletteGhost]

What's testing better? Betting for the previous 12 to repeat or betting the opposite?

[RFMAXX]

hey psi.
what is the variation of the author system you posted? how to play?
cant find it here.
thanks.

[atlantis]

Recent posts in this topic have reminded me of similarities with 2 other systems on the forum...

Warrior's "Perfect 10" System:

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=233.0

John Legend's "Spin 100" System:

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=216.0

Regards,
A.

[Rewster88]

Rg

Its not for repeaters etc , i bet ec example black 12 times, if its behind after the the 12 spins i go one progression up for 12 spins, its like betting against the difference on bigger scale and a decent progresion.

R

[psimoes]

It's the same principle that says a single EC has the chance of appearing once every two spins, so on the second spin we'll bet for the opposite of the last outcome.

And this principle is wrong. Damn it! Fell for it again! You all know where the error is, don't you?

Attention, please. Can't stress it enough: this is not a HG, nor even a system.

You can use the ideas and progressions and adapt them to your playing, but as it's written in the first or second post, nothing is set in stone.

[psimoes]

hey psi.
what is the variation of the author system you posted? how to play?
cant find it here.
thanks.

Here

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=14942.msg127550#msg127550

[psimoes]

What's testing better? Betting for the previous 12 to repeat or betting the opposite?

Betting for previous 12 to repeat performed better. Goes against the reasoning posted one or two pages ago, and against the probabilities that say it doesn't matter. Not enough tests were done yet.

Remember the Author's System? Bet same/opposite? You could try it; bet same as last 12 spins, then opposite of last 12, instead of spin by spin.

[psimoes]

Rg

Its not for repeaters etc , i bet ec example black 12 times, if its behind after the the 12 spins i go one progression up for 12 spins, its like betting against the difference on bigger scale and a decent progresion.

R

Rewster, the original idea is: you arrive at a table and note the last 12 decisions: say spin 1 was Red, spin 2 was Black, spin 3 was Black..... ......... spin 12 was Red. Now you start betting Red at spin 13 if you decided to bet for "same", because spin 1 was Red, spin 14 bet Black because spin 2 was Black, spin 15 Black because spin 3 was Black..... spin 24 you bet red because spin 12 was Red, and so on until you end the session. If you decide to bet for "opposite" the idea is to bet against the outcomes in the same order as they appear. If spin 1 was Red, at spin 13 you bet Black, if spin 2 was Black, you bet Red, and so on. Of course you can bet for same/opposite every 12 spins as suggested above. Or even do what your gut feeling tells you to... it's like: "whatever floats your boat" yeah. If it's working for you, keep on!

You got the last progression right, but I don't understand the examples you posted, so I can't answer  your question directly, but I say you can never be too cautious in a game of negative expectancy. Safety first.

[psimoes]

Recent posts in this topic have reminded me of similarities with 2 other systems on the forum...

Warrior's "Perfect 10" System:

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=233.0

John Legend's "Spin 100" System:

link:://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=216.0

Regards,
A.

Thanks.

Many of my posts in this thread are too obvious, as all I'm doing is putting my thoughts in order and trying to go back to basics. I suspected there was nothing new here.

This latest progression is akin to what I have been using for some time: initial bankroll is only 50 euros (10 units). If I lose it all, I buy-in 100 euros and start again, with doubled-up wages.

[Rewster88]

Psimoes,

I tested that about a year ago , its betting that the same pattern of 12 doesnt appear twice or opposit, Its good but it will happen, that time i tested it on last 13 with marti. What i now testing is choose 1 ec and bet it 12 times. After this i check if its positive or negative and than @ progression.


R

[psimoes]

Psimoes,

I tested that about a year ago , its betting that the same pattern of 12 doesnt appear twice or opposit, Its good but it will happen, that time i tested it on last 13 with marti. What i now testing is choose 1 ec and bet it 12 times. After this i check if its positive or negative and than @ progression.


R

Thanks. I see it now. Good idea. Do you keep betting on the same EC for the next round? Thanks.