Im back with a gift !

[nowun]

mogal397, denzie explained it again in post 24 where he pointed out he made a mistake with his first post, it seems pretty straight forward.

Step 1: Wait for a dozen to repeat.
Step 2: First bet is 10:10 on other two dozens, 3rd spin, if win reset and wait for another repeat, if loss go to step 3.
Step 3: Second bet is 40:40 on same two dozens. 4th spin, if win reset and wait for another repeat, if loss go to step 4.
Step 4: Third bet is 100:100 on same two dozens. 5th spin, if win reset and wait for another repeat, if loss go to step 5.
Step 5: Wait for new trigger of a dozen repeating 4 times and flat bet once, 100:100.

Continue doing step 5 until in profit.

That is the gist of how I understand it.  IMO you are in deep manure if you have to do step 5 a few times and lose each one.

[TwoCatSam]

Guys

If you're going to bet double dozens/columns, the best and safest bet is 1 3 9 27 54 and so on for each dozen/column.  What is being explained was called "Relaxed Roulette", a system sold by Itzak Maytata.  I bought it for about $30.

This will work for a long time until it doesn't. 

The "VLS LW Methodology" uses the same idea and Victor wrote a program for it, which I have and will share with anyone who wants it.  I did use that program successfully a few years back.

As I always said, one must log on and "see which way the wind is blowing" before betting.  After a while you will get a feel for when the doubles are going to hit for a time.  It will look like this:  WWWWLWWLWLWWWL.  Mostly Ws and few Ls.  When it begins looking like this: LLLLWLWWLL....log out and come back later.

One must use "gambler's intelligence" as winkel called it.  Just playing like a robot will take you right into the tank.

Hear me now and believe me later.

TwoCat

[denzie]

@Nowun...you explained correct. This is the downside if you go to step 5. But till today didn't failed me yet. Personally i stop play this about 1 hour b4 i stop my session. Otherwise if you unlucky you can keep going for another 3hours. Better make some coffee then .lol. But i guess every system has his good and bad side. Just give it a try .

@TwoCat ...relax? I would be nervous.  188â,¬ invest to win how much? Oooh no way for me. But your right about seeing what the wheel do. Most of the time it comes in waves. If the bad nrs come for the system you playing then wait a bit till the good ones come. Cuz they always come.

[TwoCatSam]

denzie

All right, I pulled out the Zuma tester and began looking for three dozens in a row and then the fourth.  Before I had won 10 units, I hit four in a row four times.  That's a lot of money.  Page 29 of the book, if anyone cares.

Again, good luck!!

Sam

[denzie]

What is a "zumatester"? And where can i find it?  Not really sure if understand correctly. ... first won 10 units after betting 3 same dozen in a row? And then 4 times 4 in a row come so lose 8 of the 10 units? Or i understand wrong ?

If that's the case then both did good. But i play 100-100 flat. Cuz it need be worth the waiting.  So if bet after 4x then u have  400â,¬. If bet after 3x then u have 200. But my stop point is 500...let's say I've 600 or more up...i not go under my 500. Cuz if the bad comes then need keep going for hours again

[buffalowizard]

Just had a quick look through today's table 3 Wiesbaden spins.

5x came 4 times in a row - not good. I Hardly looked long and hard for it!

This type of system is what everyone looks at after a few weeks ofdiscoverin roulette and thinks is great .. We know what happens next

[nowun]

Just had a quick look through today's table 3 Wiesbaden spins.

5x came 4 times in a row - not good. I Hardly looked long and hard for it!

This type of system is what everyone looks at after a few weeks ofdiscoverin roulette and thinks is great .. We know what happens next

I tested using my standard set of Wiesbaden T2 spins from January 2010 and it got very scarey quite quickly, opportunies for big wins, but also big losses.

[denzie]

Ok so u got 4 losses. ....and that's a problem?  That means one thing for me...this gonna take some time. B4 i give myself 5 chances and it lost 1 time now. It's just bad feeling if the session start by losing. But you will get back up.  Now i win 26/27 days. But i been playing more then few weeks. I play virtually for a month first if i test something.  And of course it can lose a session.  But the losses compared with the winnings are peanuts.  And the day i lose half of my profit then i will stop.   Don't worry. ...I've got this.

[denzie]

Ok so u got 4 losses. ....and that's a problem?  That means one thing for me...this gonna take some time. B4 i give myself 5 chances and it lost 1 time now. It's just bad feeling if the session start by losing. But you will get back up.  Now i win 26/27 days. But i been playing more then few weeks. I play virtually for a month first if i test something.  And of course it can lose a session.  But the losses compared with the winnings are peanuts.  And the day i lose half of my profit then i will stop.   Don't worry. ...I've got this.

[denzie]

Excuse me for post twice.  Don't forget i play 2-6hours a day non stop. If i win fast then i stop fast. If im in the hole then i know it can take long. But that's no problem.  I don't mind. I look tv or workout at same time cuz it's not hard to follow. And my stop point is 10units in the hole and 5 units in profit ....every 3 days I've got my bankroll back.  And for those who not like ...bet 1-1 ...next trigger 2-2 .....3-3....4-4....didn't lost also but the profit is not big also

[Chris555p]

@Denzie - Would u suggest we play flat bet or with the progression 1-1; 2-2; 3-3;4-4 etc....
and after a win do u reset to 1-1 or do u go down 1 each step i.e 3-3; 2-2; 1-1....? Thanks.

[Rewster88]

What if you first wait for 3 and if lose wait next trigger for 4? Then 5 etc..

[denzie]

@chriss....personally i always flatbet. Cuz it's still does a mighty good job. But the progression didn't lose yet. But the profit some days is low but didn't bust yet.  And you never bet more then u need to have 1unit profit. Most days u will not go further then 1-1 and 2-2 ....but let's say u still down 3units...and normally your bet is let's say 6-6....then u bet 4-4 cuz if u win u have 1 unit.

[denzie]

@rewster88... i tried almost all possible ways....and 3x and 4x is the safest. 3x did lose 1time with 5 chances. 4x didn't lose yet. But the 3x makes much more profit cuz they come really a lot. And 4x.....well some days i not even see them or they come 1-2 times.....So personally i go for 3x and then bet 1time...

btw 2x only not work cuz to many 3x.
And don't forget when your in the hole. ..relax keep looking tv and if the trigger comes...attack.

[Chris555p]

@ Denzie -  Thanks; I agree with u concerning the progression coz when betting double dozen the progression can
wipe out a lot of the profit even it may be light progression....lol lol