Leveller progression by hermes

[mogul397]

I just began beating this old dead horse and am trying to understand it.

The claim is that the leveler progression keeps your head above
water for betting 2 dozens.  1/1  2/2/ 4/4/ 8/8/.

I don't see it. And in the thread, I don't see anyone dispute it.
Is there some way that leveling to a flat 8/8 bet allows you
to recoup losses?  Can anyone explain it?

Thanks

Mogul

[RouletteGhost]

essentially a martingale on double dozens wont win big money or much money at all but it will recoup losses for sure

if you hit 8/8 you win 8 unites, still in the begative but then go back to 1/1....with a good bet selection could be good

[TwoCatSam]

Geez, I hate to go all negative but when I read this:   but it will recoup losses for sure, I had to chime in.

Essentially the idea is that if a progression gets you in the hole, flat betting will get you out.  Think about that.  If flat betting would get you out of the hole, why not just flat bet from the first bet and rise far above the hole?

Sam

[denzie]

Cuz the most of the time u not go in the progession.  I asume you still not tried my patience system "two cat".

I play double dozens all the time with trigger 2-3-4 repeaters in a row. Now waiting 4x is really safe and till today not lost one sessions yet. But while waiting u gonna see how much u miss cuz not play after 2 or 3x . Try first!

[denzie]

Mogul here's my opinion about roulette.  There are so many systems but only 1% will really work. You gonna read here many systems.  And you will think many times....yeah this is it. NOPE. Same as almost all systems they work good for some sessions and then oòoooooh not work and lose more then all your profit together. 

I've gonna save you some time.

Wait till a dozen comes 3x in a row and then bet 1time on the other 2 dozen.  Win ? Good, wait for next trigger.  Lose? No problem and wait also for next trigger.  Flatbets only for now. Later u will play the 2x also. But one step at a time.

[denzie]

Your bankroll have to be big enough for 10 chances. Let's say u have 100units then u play 5-5 when the trigger comes.
Is really safe with 10 chances. I know one day it gonna lose but the loses are peanuts compared with the winnings. Just try and u will see.

Before i only use 5 chances. The 4x still not bust . The 3x did bust 1 time in about 25days. I play this around evening. Open laptop.  I workout and watch tv with the laptop next to me. Cuz the waiting is boring.  Start 5-6 and finish 11-12 with profit. Of course later u will play bigger then it will be worth your time.

One hint : forget all the difficult systems cuz they not work in the long run. Good luck and never bet more then 1 time. Cuz the roulette will eat your money.  Be patient is the key!!!

[TwoCatSam]

denzie

What you are doing has been tried for a hundred years or more.  Never has worked; never will. 

You are riding a lucky streak, that's all.  It will end.  Anyone with any experience in the game will tell you that.

Good luck.

TwoCat

[Chris555p]

@Denzie

If u have your trigger then there is a dealer change, does it matter....?
Do u still bet or do u restart tracking with the new dealer...? Thanks

Cheers

Chris

[denzie]

Damn why i lose my time with roulette.  If im that lucky better i invest in lottery.  Lol. No idea if im on a lucky streak for months with 1-3different casino's a day. Of course it's possible.  Time will tell. But until that day i carey on with filling my pockets ^^.  I have so much research and nrs i find it hard to believe.  But i not say it can't happen.  But even a few losing days not gonna hurt my money if u never go over the bankroll. 

I keep going. ...new dealer or not...keep going.

TwoCat....if i can ask....how do you play?

[Chris555p]

@ Denzie - Thanks for the info, I will try it.


Cheers

Chris

[denzie]

@chris. ...pls post your results (good or bad) here so then im little bit more sure that im not Mr Lucky.

And of course this theory of TwoCat speaks for every system/strategy.  Have people who play 30years with succes here on the dozens too. That's one big lucky streak.  Lol. But i keep your words with me. And if you was right i will say it too. This i promise. 

But b4 i played 1000nrs system with great succes.  And been writing  the nrs b4 i put unit on this game. I have a archive of more then 100000 real spin nrs. And yep i looked them all and still high up in profit (virtual and real)

[TwoCatSam]

denzie

What you are doing defies math.  If you wait for dozen 1 to triple, you have 1,1,1.  At that point, you have exactly the same chance of getting a 2 or 3 as if you had never waited for 1,1,1.  I can take you through any trot of numbers and show where three dozens or columns will be followed by the same number to the point where you will break even and only lose to the zero.

This is virtually the same thing John Legend proposed and I tested it thoroughly.  He left the forum in disgrace or something.

If you're making money, I am happy for you.  Just beware....

TwoCat

[denzie]

Don't worry. I will watch my back. But till today is works fine. And about math....every outcome is independent about the ones b4. But i not see 30x red . It can happen and already did in the past. But those things happen once in....

And about dozens...of course they can go anyway possible.  But it with all the times i play and all the casino's the results are same. They do come a lot 2x or 3x and 4x well some sessions not even see them.

No idea who jon legend is but i play this till the day i gonna say....you was right twocat. But then still i stop with profit at the end.

So tell us...how u play or if u not wanna say ...what you play?

Also every nr is independent but with airball i checked 1000nrs a day. And every day i see the same....all come same...ec dozen nrs.....crazy as it sounds but they do. I just waited till a nr was 2-300 or more behind and flatbet.  Worked amazing.  But you need a lot of time.

Just saying...i keep going till my "luck" stops.

[denzie]

And there's always  1-1 2-2 3-3 4-4 5-5 etc ...that works just fine too but some days the profit is not enough.  But still profit.  Well i keep u updated about my highs and lows.  But anyways thx cuz now i will look more careful then b4.

Good luck for you also.

[mogul397]

Denzie, you're all over the place. Not even sure what you do,
when you do it, and how often..

My original intent was about the 4x4 and hermes.  Thing is that from what
I could tell, this guy had achieved so much recognition or respect
that no one had the nerve to dispute anything he said. So it made me wonder.

I still don't see how some flat betting will save your ass. If it does, why
not just bet flat at a lower level.

As to your other dozen play, be more specific about what you do.
And how often you play and your results...