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Started by tezza12, Mar 25, 05:07 PM 2015

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vladir

It's seems very impractical if you really want to play it safe... I run a simulation for some combinations (3 numbers, 4 numbers, 6 numbers, 12, 18 and 24) for 3.000.000 random spins and got this maximums for sleepers:

3               4              6              12             18            24
146           120           79            35              21            15
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

tezza12

I am confused sorry, what did you run this on to get those results and why is that way accurate, i have the numbers which i believe are the limits and they do not match yours!!! but i have never lost with my numbers either, and they are tested on real spins and RNG spins over MILLIONS of spins.

tezza12

Quote from: vladir on Mar 26, 12:16 PM 2015
It's seems very impractical if you really want to play it safe... I run a simulation for some combinations (3 numbers, 4 numbers, 6 numbers, 12, 18 and 24) for 3.000.000 random spins and got this maximums for sleepers:

3               4              6              12             18            24
146           120           79            35              21            15

Also as a afterthought, are those number any random numbers, eg 3 number anywhere, or a street, is it any 4 number or a Quad ect.....

vladir

Quote from: tezza12 on Mar 26, 12:34 PM 2015
Also as a afterthought, are those number any random numbers, eg 3 number anywhere, or a street, is it any 4 number or a Quad ect.....

Any 3 numbers, any 4 numbers, etc,...

I used a rand() function...  But I believe you will get similar results with any random generating function... you can even use excel.
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

tezza12

Quote from: vladir on Mar 26, 12:39 PM 2015
Any 3 numbers, any 4 numbers, etc,...

I used a rand() function...  But I believe you will get similar results with any random generating function... you can even use excel.

But that is why it is not accurate, 3 random numbers do not act the same as 3 numbers in order eg a street, same for a quad ect....

vladir

Quote from: tezza12 on Mar 26, 12:41 PM 2015
But that is why it is not accurate, 3 random numbers do not act the same as 3 numbers in order eg a street, same for a quad ect....

Are you saying that, for example, pockets[1,2,3] will behave differently then [1,10,20]? Can you explain why you say that?
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

tezza12

Quote from: vladir on Mar 26, 12:51 PM 2015
Are you saying that, for example, pockets[1,2,3] will behave differently then [1,10,20]? Can you explain why you say that?

I can't explain why, so will have to go with the old, just because they don't lol

Turner

Quote from: thelaw on Mar 25, 07:34 PM 2015
Tezza,

So how often do you actually get to bet
I was thinking more "how often do you actually get to bed"  :xd:

tezza12

I am a tad confused, are you looking for a super quick, get rich quick thing, are you a social player who does not care if loses. I play for one reason, to make more than i started with, Ok so it can be slow and boring, but the end result is always, always the same, a profit. A safer than usual profit.

RouletteGhost

tezza i am with u. patience pays off. but how many casino visits does it take and length of time per visit before u have that one betting opportunity.
the key to winning with systems : play for a statistically irrelevant number of spins

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denzie

RG....laptop , tv, sofa . The only thing u need is time.  If u play every day for 4-5-6 hrs you will meet many triggers.  Like he said, see it as a job (with great salary).
As spins roll off our predictions get better

marivo

Quote from: vladir on Mar 26, 07:50 AM 2015
Does anyone have some statistics regarding this numbers - the max a street, quad, split, sixline, etc can miss?

I have this.

vladir

Quote from: marivo on Mar 27, 04:29 AM 2015
I have this.

Thanks. As I expected, even the high, impractical results I got in 3 million spins are conservative compared to what you present in that file...  IF we consider those numbers until we start playing...I wonder how much you have to wait until a betting opportunity arrises... :(
"In God we trust; all others must bring data", W. Edwards Deming

ego

Quote from: vladir on Mar 27, 08:44 AM 2015
Thanks. As I expected, even the high, impractical results I got in 3 million spins are conservative compared to what you present in that file...  IF we consider those numbers until we start playing...I wonder how much you have to wait until a betting opportunity arrises... :(

That is the tricky part vladir ...
I run several million trails and got for example one line sleeping 81 times.
Then you might have 26 step progression and will never see a trigger to bet from.
You migh be chasing extreme events and tracking more then you play.
I mean is not every day you see one line sleep for 60 times in a row.

One other way i also check is the even money bets.
The record is 50 loses and 7 wins.
That is 5.09 STD.

This mean you would start betting from 3+ STD
You would get one selection or trigger each day - or as minimum - because you can track different ways and get multi selections.

Now to cover 3.5 STD to 5.09 STD you have to beat this sequense LLLLLL W LLLLLL W LLLLLL W LLLLLL 24 loses and 3 wins.
If you can come up with a progression cover does events - then you have the holy grail.

One solution would be winning twice each state or level of six attmpts.
And you need four levels to get a recovery plan - that would also be a solution for a holy grail.
Or at least you would win during your life time at the tables.


Cheers
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tezza12

Quote from: marivo on Mar 27, 04:29 AM 2015
I have this.

Where do you get these stats from, they are very very wrong

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