How you play EC's?

[JHM]

Hi All,

What is your best EC bet selection / system you play/know.  Please no systems that involve a negative progression.  The best I came so far is to wait for the table to produce series or pick a table that is producing series, wait for a change and than place 1 bet for the serie to continue. 

I'm now trying to combine this with a positive progression. 

The idea is to start with a BR of 4 chips.  Every bet starts with 1 chip, when you win the second bet is 2 chips (1 of your own, one of the house).  When the second bet is won you're done. 

That's why I'm interested how you place your bets on the EC's.  After all the time studieing I think the EC's are still the best way to play.  Now I'm lookiong for a way to play theim best.

Thank you for sharing your ideas.

Br.  JHM

[VLS]

Hello JHM, and welcome.

Have you tried waiting for a pronounced imbalance in favor of a chance and after it ends by a CONCENTRATION of wins in the other side of the EC, back the lower side to aim for a correction of +1 chip only?

Regards.

[JHM]

Hi Vicor,

Thank you for your reply, can you please explain by example, I think I don't understand you right. 

This is the way I play right now, when I'm in the casino I look at all the table and pick one that is producing series

R
R
B
B
B
R
R
R
B <- Table produces series, now I bet for a B to continue series.  Only one bet.

[iggiv]

JHM, i tried so many EC systems, i came to conclusion, they are no winners.
Remember there is a reason why roulette allows those methods.  As i say:
some methods are more likely to win, some less. Let's say that from all the methods
to bet single numbers would be a less likely method to win. What would happen then?

Roulette would not be marked red/black, and there would be no way to bet dozens/columns/streets etc.  Casino would be happy with players playing single numbers. Why they marked it red/black, high/low, even/odd? They did not for your convenience. They did it to trick u into thinking of "easy betting", which in reality is easy losing.

[JHM]

Hi Iggy,

Thank you for your reply.  And it's true.  You can also change the roulette wheel for a lotto wheel.  It just doesn't matter.  It's just a random number generator. 

But correct me if I'm wrong.  From your answer I understand, that how much time and effort you put into the game.  It's a lost of time, you will never find a winning strategy?

Br.  JHM

[iggiv]

JHM,

i am not a very experienced roulette player to give u the straight answer yes or no.  In my humble opinion there is a possible way to find a winning method. But if u compare possible the chances to win and find some "regularities" on what is happening with a roulette ball i would say cut out and forget about table based systems, especially EC systems. I would say work with single numbers only, and don't even look at the table (except putting your bets of course).  I would say look what is happening on a WHEEL itself. I would say watch table based systems, that's ok, but
apply their methods to to the wheel. For example someone came with a promissing single dozen system -- fine, take his idea and work with a sector of 12 or whatever groups of 12 based on a wheel, not on a table.

but there is no way to work on red/black watching a wheel, it is totally unpredictable i would say. If there was a good way to work on red/blacks, they would keep a wheel colored in the same colour. They made 2 colours  to trick u, no doubt about it.


P.S. i am not saying i am 100% right, i may be wrong as well about it.
for example as i said in another thread, i used the think that Earth is flat, now i think i was wrong,  it is not a just flat disk for sure.


































It has a shape of a suitcase.  , but u don't tell anyone our little secret

[F_LAT_INO]

Hi All,

What is your best EC bet selection / system you play/know.  Please no systems that involve a negative progression.  The best I came so far is to wait for the table to produce series or pick a table that is producing series, wait for a change and than place 1 bet for the serie to continue.  

I'm now trying to combine this with a positive progression.  

The idea is to start with a BR of 4 chips.  Every bet starts with 1 chip, when you win the second bet is 2 chips (1 of your own, one of the house).  When the second bet is won you're done.  

That's why I'm interested how you place your bets on the EC's.  After all the time studieing I think the EC's are still the best way to play.  Now I'm lookiong for a way to play theim best.

Thank you for sharing your ideas.

Br.  JHM

JHM,

I WOULD NEVER RISK MY JOB FOR A GAME OF CHANCE.I'M ONLY
WEEKEND PLAYER AND AM LOOKING FOR SOME EXTRA EARNINGS.


Cause your statement was so sincere am going to show you how to
earn some weekend chips on E/C bets.
  R-B                                  O-E                                L-H
34--no bet                           nb                                  nb
16--nb                                 nb                                  nb
4--- nb                                 nb                                   1-             1-
2--   1-              1-                nb                                  nb
12-  nb                                 nb                                  nb
15    2+             1+               nb                                  nb
15    1-              0-                1-                 1-              nb
17    nb                                 nb                                 nb
31    nb                                 nb                                 nb
4      nb                                 nb                                  2+             1+
27    nb                                 2+                1+              1+             2+                      
 2    2+              2+               1+                2+              1+             3+        
16    1+              3+               1-                 1+              1-              2+
18    1-               2+               nb                                   nb
27    nb                                 nb                                   nb      
34    nb                                  2+                3+              1-              1+
11    nb                                  1+                4+              2-              1-                      
16    2+               4+               1+                5+              3+             2+
 
I'm sure you will grasp this easy.

[Pacer]

I like to wait for Red or Black (Odd or Even,etc. ) to miss twice and bet on the missed EC twice, then the other EC twice, then the missed EC again twice, repeat (RRBBRRBB. . . ) for 18 games, flat-betting for a profit of three.   If I get to +3 before 18 games, I end session.

[VLS]

I like to wait for Red or Black (Odd or Even,etc. ) to miss twice and bet on the missed EC twice, then the other EC twice, then the missed EC again twice, repeat (RRBBRRBB. . . ) for 18 games, flat-betting for a profit of three.   If I get to +3 before 18 games, I end session.

Thanks pacer.

I'd like to code this one

[JHM]

Victor, have you coded and test this way of play?

Br.  JHM

[Wally Gator]

If you can beat the zero's on the attached sheet, you are doing exceptionally well, my friend.  A great no prog strategy.  Thanks for sharing.

[furple]

I usually play the DBL with a 6 point divisor. I aim for 5 to 10 units.

[schoenpoetser]

I am new on Roulette Forum. cc. I am a very frequent rouletteplayer in Holland. I will share my knowledge and experience here on this forum. Roulettestrategies have my special interest. I apologize my English,I don`t write it perfect.
The theory of Blaisse Pascal is the basic of my studies. In the dutch casino`s we have only European roulettetables. The En Prison rule is usual. Since we have PCs I program systems and strategies. Nowadays I program in excel.

On many places on different forums you can read the ECs are not so profitable. I do not agree.
The advantage of the roulette is for the ECs 1,35% and all other bets 2,75%. It is also more easy to develop a strategy for the ECs  with a betting outline.

In my opinion there is no difference in a roulettewheel and a fair RNG. Scientifically there is no connection between the past and the future. I do not agree. I base my bettings on the past spins.
Next time more.

[Drogan]

In my opinion even money bets are the worst bet on the table.

It is like a hamster in wheel. You win, you lose, you win, you lose
you win, you lose, you win, you lose, etc. If you like playing and just
watching your bankroll go up and down and up and down. Then ECs
are for you.

The simple reason for this is the placement of the even money bets
on the wheel.

Take a single zero wheel. Every other slot is red, or black, every other
slot is high and low. Everything is evenly placed. There is no way to predict
with accuracy which EC will fall.

There are however, a few things to take into account......

The high and low numbers are placed evenly around the wheel. That is true.

But if you look closer you will notice that all of the low black numbers are all on the right
side of the wheel, and all of the low red numbers are on the left side of the wheel.

Conversely, all of the high black numbers are on the left side of the wheel and all
of the high red numbers are on the right side of the wheel.

Can we exploit this inconsistency?

Well the only way to do this is to keep up with what sector of the wheel is hitting. If we
can pinpoint the sector that is going to hit next then we can make our bets on the high
or low side of the wheel. But this takes lots of practice.

So if there are no HOT sections of the wheel, and since the high and low numbers are NOT
evenly placed if we bet the opposite of which number just came up we will have a better
chance of having a winning bet.

The other thing to take into account are the odds and evens.

If you look a the wheel. You will notice that they are not evenly placed at all.  There are 12
places around the wheel that two evens or two odds are placed right next to each other.

This is the only category in which the placement is NOT even throughout the wheel.

Can we exploit this inconsistency?

Well not as accurately as we can exploit high and low. But you will have a much better chance of a winning bet if you bet the same bet that just came up. Because there is a
much better chance of having two EOs in a row than any other EC.

So to sum up.....

B and R evenly placed. Leave them alone.
E and O Bet the same as last number spun.
H and L Bet the opposite of the last number spun.

Even with this slight(and I do mean slight) edge, ECs are the worst. If you want to win...I would try something else.

D

[Twisteruk]

I am new on Roulette Forum. cc. I am a very frequent rouletteplayer in Holland. I will share my knowledge and experience here on this forum. Roulettestrategies have my special interest. I apologize my English,I don`t write it perfect.
The theory of Blaisse Pascal is the basic of my studies. In the dutch casino`s we have only European roulettetables. The En Prison rule is usual. Since we have PCs I program systems and strategies. Nowadays I program in excel.

On many places on different forums you can read the ECs are not so profitable. I do not agree.
The advantage of the roulette is for the ECs 1,35% and all other bets 2,75%. It is also more easy to develop a strategy for the ECs  with a betting outline.

In my opinion there is no difference in a roulettewheel and a fair RNG. Scientifically there is no connection between the past and the future. I do not agree. I base my bettings on the past spins.
Next time more.

Welcome to the Forum schoenpoetser !

Im sure the Forum Member here will appreciate your idea's