TwoCat tests denzie's system.......

[RouletteGhost]

yes if thats how its written then thats what he is probably doing

when a dozen repeats 3 times bet the other 2 once.....he probably is using a +1 progression

[TwoCatSam]

Hello all

I am still running the bot and have had another incident where the sheet was too short.  That is, it only goes to 500 spins and it needed more. 

I think I need to find a way to change the "foolproof" progression, whatever that is, to one that only goes about fifty spins.

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

Oooh and about the progression u gonna work on....already gave you it. No idea how many time i need repeat it. FOOLPROOF IT.

denzie

I am quickly loosing faith in you!  I can read the progression the sheet uses and it is not the foolproof as outlined by GLC in another thread.  Why would you say that?

Why don't we just have an honest test of the system?

TwoCat

[TwoCatSam]

I see no reason to continue this testing.  As you can see, we are 60,000 or so into test three and it has failed three times.  I am going to set the bot for an outside progression of +1 on win and loss and see what it looks like tomorrow.

I am not saying this system is a failure; just that it needs a progression that is steeper and fewer spins to win or lose

Sam

[TwoCatSam]

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[denzie]

Sam we clearly not on the same page here. Probably cuz of my English.

In here you write the bot does this : 3313 and then he bet 12 For sure that is not what i told Nick. 100% sure. So no idea why the bot does that. B4 you not believed in my system cuz u said....if u run it a bilion times it can never win etc...and then u wanna test it. So i told Nick this : If a dozen comes 3times in a row then bet the other 2 dozens for ONLY ONE time using flatbets. Cuz thats what i do. Every day.

And as i said a few times already...i send u another by email. NOT the sheet. In that email is the FOOLPROOF progression. And i also asked if you tried it but still no answer on that. Remember?

You wanna do tests? my nr 1: TRIGGER 3 SAME DOZEN IN A ROW AND THEN BET THE OTHER 2 DOZEN FOR 1 TIME (as i told nick) (busted only 2times)
                               my nr 2:TRIGGER 4 ( same as above but wait one more)(till today didnt lose a session yet but trigger 3 makes more profit even with a losing session incl as trigger 4 not comes much)
                               my nr 3: same as nr 2 but with foolproof (+1 win or lose with a resetpoint of 5units)
                               my nr 4: same as nr 1 but with foolproof (+1 win or lose with a resetpoint of 5units)

Also i not play a billion spins... trigger 3 or 4 ....stop loss is 1000units....minimum win point is 300units and maximum winpoint is 500 units. The idea is to win our BR every 3 days. So if a loss comes we not gonna worry about it or have that bad feeling after a losing session. A session takes 2 to 6 hours. But that is not what the sheet does. The sheet just keep going on and on

I hope now its finally clear. So i wil talk nick asap why the bot does a bet like u said.

Grts And to all....heres your eastergift

[TwoCatSam]

Sam we clearly not on the same page here. Probably cuz of my English.

I am going to answer you in red so it will be clear.  Your English is fine!

In here you write the bot does this : 3313 and then he bet 12 For sure that is not what i told Nick. 100% sure. So no idea why the bot does that. B4 you not believed in my system cuz u said....if u run it a bilion times it can never win etc...and then u wanna test it. So i told Nick this : If a dozen comes 3times in a row then bet the other 2 dozens for ONLY ONE time using flatbets. Cuz thats what i do. Every day.

Sorry, I had it wrong.  It was 3133 and the bot bet the 1 and 2.  I have found a way to slow the bot down and now I can see clearly.  Now the bot is set up to wait for two dozens in a row and flat bet.  I will set it for three.  I am making a video of the current trot to see what is happening exactly.  I am using the progression.  I will stop that.

And as i said a few times already...i send u another by email. NOT the sheet. In that email is the FOOLPROOF progression. And i also asked if you tried it but still no answer on that. Remember?
I have gotten no such email.  I am twocatsam@cox.net, but you know that.

You wanna do tests? my nr 1: TRIGGER 3 SAME DOZEN IN A ROW AND THEN BET THE OTHER 2 DOZEN FOR 1 TIME (as i told nick) (busted only 2times)
                               my nr 2:TRIGGER 4 ( same as above but wait one more)(till today didnt lose a session yet but trigger 3 makes more profit even with a losing session incl as trigger 4 not comes much)
                               my nr 3: same as nr 2 but with foolproof (+1 win or lose with a resetpoint of 5units)
                               my nr 4: same as nr 1 but with foolproof (+1 win or lose with a resetpoint of 5units)

Also i not play a billion spins... trigger 3 or 4 ....stop loss is 1000units....minimum win point is 300units and maximum winpoint is 500 units. The idea is to win our BR every 3 days. So if a loss comes we not gonna worry about it or have that bad feeling after a losing session. A session takes 2 to 6 hours. But that is not what the sheet does. The sheet just keep going on and on

I hope now its finally clear. So i wil talk nick asap why the bot does a bet like u said.

Please do not contact Nick because I made a mistake.

Grts And to all....heres your eastergift

[TwoCatSam]

denzie

I have a brand new Windows 8 computer dedicated to bots and testing.  I have set it up with the following instructions:

Wait for three of the same dozen and bet 1-1 on the unhit dozens.  Example:  333 bet 1-2.

If I understand you, if that bet loses the  bot waits for four in a row, i.e., 1111 and then bets 2-3.  The bot does not do that.  It only waits for 3 in a row if you set it for three.

With no progression this is a sure loser.  Why?  Let's do the math:

1st bet 1-1 and a loss means your are down 2 units
2nd bet 1-1 and you win.  You win 1 unit and are down 1 for the trot.

The bot bears this out with loss after loss after loss.

Your idea is not bad and I think it has merit if I can only find the right setting for the Excel sheet and the bot.

I will try the foolproof, but that will NOT work when the sheet ALWAYS loses.  It will just dig a deeper hole.

Sam

[RouletteGhost]

Twocat id love to see results on a bot of a prog 1, 3, 9 on a loss that stops at 9 and reset back to 1 on a win or after 9 Betting other two dozens after a 3 repeat.

[TwoCatSam]

Mr. Ghost

I do not understand.  Please spell it out more slowly!   

I will do it.  I still have one idle computer.  I have four.

Sam

[RouletteGhost]

Negative 1 3 9 progression resetting to 1 unit after 9 or after a win

[TwoCatSam]

got it

[TwoCatSam]

RG

The way the bot is set up is this:  Wait for 2 dozens in a row and then bet 1-1; then two more dozens in a row and bet 3-3, and finally 9-9.

It does not work.  I tried the "foolproof progression" and it is worse.

Sorry.

Sam

[Tomla021]

Sam, wasn't the concept 3 dozens in a row not 2 ? ......I play something identical to Denzies I think (the ultimate is it the same or not) and do well with it

[SamNL]

Sam, wasn't the concept 3 dozens in a row not 2 ? ......I play something identical to Denzies I think (the ultimate is it the same or not) and do well with it

I think Denzie was indeed talking about 3 or 4 dozens in a row and then start betting.
He even said that he busted playing 3 dozens in a row and that 4 dozens in a row didn't but got much less oppurtunities.