Give it your best shot

[Carsch]

I have 108 Win/Lose outcomes here. See what's the best you can do using a progression of your choice; however, your highest bet cannot be over 4 units. You don't have to bet on all the outcomes, but your system must be consistent.

These are the results I got using two different progressions.

Progression 1:

Profit: +11 units
Highest bet: 4 units
Drawdown: - 24  

Progression 2:
Profit: +19
Highest bet: 4 units
Drawdown: - 28



1   L
2   W
3   W
4   W
5   L
6   W
7   W
8   W
9   W
10   W
11   W
12   L
13   L
14   W
15   L
16   W
17   W
18   W
19   W
20   W
21   L
22   W
23   L
24   W
25   L
26   W
27   W
28   W
29   W
30   L
31   W
32   W
33   L
34   L
35   L
36   L
37   W
38   W
39   W
40   L
41   W
42   W
43   W
44   W
45   L
46   W
47   W
48   L
49   W
50   W
51   W
52   L
53   L
54   L
55   W
56   L
57   W
58   L
59   W
60   L
61   L
62   L
63   L
64   W
65   W
66   W
67   L
68   L
69   L
70   W
71   L
72   L
73   L
74   L
75   L
76   W
77   L
78   W
79   L
80   L
81   L
82   L
83   L
84   W
85   W
86   L
87   L
88   L
89   W
90   L
91   L
92   W
93   W
94   W
95   W
96   W
97   W
98   W
99   L
100   L
101   L
102   W
103   L
104   W
105   W
106   W
107   L
108   W

[ADulay]

Finished +8.

High bet 3.

Lowest in shoe -1.

High was something around +17 or so (did it in my head while reading the screen)

It would have been better if we could know HOW we got the Wins and Losses.

AD

[Carsch]

It would have been better if we could know HOW we got the Wins and Losses.

AD

Yep! I'd say so. I'll do so with mine after we get a few more posters.

[Carsch]

Finished +8.

High bet 3.

Lowest in shoe -1.

High was something around +17 or so (did it in my head while reading the screen)

It would have been better if we could know HOW we got the Wins and Losses.

AD

Your results are not bad though.

[GLC]

Carcsh,

With the Grand Martingale you win +108 units with a high bet of 63 units.

G

[Carsch]

Carcsh,

With the Grand Martingale you win +108 units with a high bet of 63 units.

G

Oh i'm sure. I just want to see what people can come with by keeping the bets low.

[albalaha]

Dear Carsch,
                  I am sorry but I could not understand what type of bets you are referring to and which progression you and others using. Can you please elaborate a little?

[dennisbelle]

+45 units
Highest bet 5 units (1 time)
Lowest point in shoe -1 unit
Largest drawdown  -6 units

I used a 2 stage parlay after the first loss so the let it ride (parlay) bet would have exceeded 5 units in some cases.  I only bet after a win and stopped betting after a loss.

[Carsch]

That's damn good, Dennis. 


@ Al, you may apply any progression you'd like. Only try not to bet more than 4 units.

[ADulay]

Carcsh,

With the Grand Martingale you win +108 units with a high bet of 63 units.

G

I think the high wager was supposed to be 4 units?

AD

[Carsch]

AD, here is how I got the W/Ls.

I used this method betting on the ECs.

Bet same color as last
Lose and bet the opposite color
Lose a second time, switch to OE

I do the same with OE.............once I have two losses, I switch to HL (not that it matters which order you go)

From HL, I switch to RB, from RB to OE, and so on.


0   13   
1   9   L.................go same last color
2   22   W...............go opposite last color
3   32   W
4   2   W
5   6   L
6   13   W...............go opposite last OE
7   6   W
8   21   W
9   18   W
10   15   W
11   24   W
12   18   L
13   21   L..............go same last OE
14   32   W.............go same last HL
15   9   L
16   34   W............go opposite last HL
17   3   W
18   32   W
19   5   W
20   26   W
21   19   L
22   31   W...........go opposite last color
23   2   L
24   6   W...........go same last color
25   3   L
26   9   W...........go same as last OE
27   1   W
28   29   W
29   5   W
30   18   L
31   19   W
32   26   W
33   30   L
34   00   L
35   31   L
36   17   L
37   26   W
38   20   W
39   17   W
40   30   L
41   22   W
42   14   W
43   29   W
44   25   W
45   12   L
46   3   W
47   22   W
48   8   L
49   14   W
50   30   W
51   26   W
52   5   L
53   32   L
54   26   L
55   21   W
56   12   L
57   36   W
58   11   L
59   1   W
60   00   L
61   28   L
62   36   L
63   24   L
64   27   W
65   32   W
66   27   W
67   11   L
68   5   L
69   25   L
70   22   W
71   4   L
72   11   L
73   34   L
74   25   L
75   27   L
76   25   W
77   0   L
78   21   W
79   22   L
80   33   L
81   19   L
82   32   L
83   3   L
84   14   W
85   7   W
86   33   L
87   31   L
88   11   L
89   23   W
90   28   L
91   24   L
92   4   W
93   31   W
94   4   W
95   30   W
96   13   W
97   34   W
98   10   W
99   12   L
100   33   L
101   18   L
102   28   W
103   29   L
104   16   W
105   13   W
106   34   W
107   00   L
108   5   W

[Carsch]

I guess the next idea would be to see who can come up with the best bet selection and get the most wins out of these same spins. Anyone up to it? Or just provide your own real data past spins.

I got 59 Wins and 49 losses




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[Carsch]

Ok Dennis, i tried to follow what you did without really knowing how exactly you played your game. Hey, but i got something here. I got better results than i did before.

These are my new results:

+ 19 units
Highest bet: 4 units
Lowest point: -1 unit
Largest drawdown:  -8 units

What i did:

like you, i stopped at a loss and waited for a win to continue

After first win, i parlayed, then went back to 1 unit bet

Waited for another win, and parlayed again, this time twice in a row, then went back to 1 unit bet.

Waited for another win so i'd continue to parlay, but never had a chance to continue at this stage. I'll keep trying this method of play and see how good it does.

[dennisbelle]

Carsch,
   I used the Rambler progression.  I will paste it below, hope it all lines up.   The number before the / is the amount to bet and the number after the / is the profit if the parlay is successful.

1       2      3      4     5     6       7     8     9       10    11      12     13     14   
1/3 - 1/2 - 2/4 - 2/2- 3/3- 4/3- 5/2- 7/3- 9/2- 12/2- 16/2- 22/4- 29/3- 39/4-

15      16       17      18
52/4- 69/3 - 92/3 - 123/4

[ADulay]

I have 108 Win/Lose outcomes here. See what's the best you can do using a progression of your choice; however, your highest bet cannot be over 4 units. You don't have to bet on all the outcomes, but your system must be consistent.

These are the results I got using two different progressions.

Progression 1:

Profit: +11 units
Highest bet: 4 units
Drawdown: - 24  

I think the problem with a small test like this is that we're now attempting to backfill the results of the table.  The correct question would be to have everyone run this sample USING THEIR CURRENT MONEY MANAGEMENT plan and see how it comes out.

Just my two cents.

AD