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THE CROSSPLAY 5*****

Started by FENDER1000, May 21, 04:30 PM 2010

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Phishalot

Just to make sure I have this right.  Play goes:
1) Wait for a column or dozen to sleep for 4 spins.

2) Bet that column or dozen with one unit two times.  (You can bet a column and a dozen at the same time, but not 2 dozens or columns at the same time)

3) If I win go back to step 1.  If I lose qualify another dozen or column then bet level 2 (2 units and the 3 units).  A win at any time send me back to step 1.  (The dozen or column that just loss can not qualify until it has a hit)

4) If I lost the 2/3 bets I qualify another dozen or column betting level 3 (5/8) on the next two spins.

It was  my understanding from the first post this is as far as we go.  If we loss the whole progression we start the next game with 2 units.  But reading the progressions that have been posted since there would be a level 4 & 5.

How confused am I?

Thanks
Phishalot

ScoobyDoo

Hello Phishalot,

What Fender is suggesting is to drop the first step in the 5-step progression (1,1) Then wait for two consecutive losses meaning that after you have lost twice while in virtual, then continue real play with the next 4 steps in the progression which are:

2,3....5,8....12,18....27,41

keel44

Maybe we could write out an "Official Rules" again.   

Let me ask if you play columns and dozens at the same time and you lose both, do you count that as 2 losses or one loss on each?  Dozens and Columns each have their own progression?

FENDER1000

Quote from: keel44 on May 31, 05:23 AM 2010
Maybe we could write out an "Official Rules" again.  

Let me ask if you play columns and dozens at the same time and you lose both, do you count that as 2 losses or one loss on each?  Dozens and Columns each have their own progression?

Hi to all, the only reason I haven't cemented all the rules as yet. Is A, this strategy is new and is still in the teething stages. I will give you the basics as I have been playing them. And B, this strategy is Atlantis's brainchild. And I always respect that, so any changes in execution should pass through him first. And he can have his say as to how he feels, about its value. I truly believe we have something very close to a grail here as I write I am 83 wins 0 losses in sessions played. I will update my results below. So pleased am I with this strategy. I have taken a break from THE ZONE. Let me tell you, that is no small thing. I owe my livelyhood to that strategy. So for me to put it on the shelf in favor of another one. Tells you the CROSSPLAY 5 IS FANTASTIC! ;D

FENDER1000

Okay I played 2 sessions yesterday with the new revision about triggers. Here are the results.

SUNDAY SESSION 2
DOZEN 1=8----TRIGGER 1
DOZEN 2=13----TRIGGER 2
COLUMN 2=5+4PTS----(SESSION ENDED WITH 4 POINTS PROFIT)
DOZEN 3=7----COLUMN 1=9
COLUMN 1=6
DOZEN 3=6
COLUMN 2=6
DOZEN 1=11----COLUMN 3=5----SESSION COMPLETE WITH 5 WINS--5 LOSSES

MONDAY SESSION 1
COLUMN 3=9----TRIGGER 1
DOZEN 2=7----TRIGGER 2
COLUMN 1=6+4PTS----(SESSION ENDED WITH 4 POINTS PROFIT)
DOZEN 1=5
DOZEN 1=6
COLUMN 2=11----DOZEN 3=8
DOZEN 3=5
COLUMN 2=9
COLUMN 3=6----SESSION COMPLETE WITH 5 WINS--5 LOSSES

RUNNING BALANCE SINCE 17/05/2010=93 POINTS PROFIT
STRIKE-RATE SINCE THE START=83 WINS 0 LOSING SESSIONS

FENDER1000

Quote from: Phishalot on May 30, 06:59 PM 2010
Just to make sure I have this right.  Play goes:
1) Wait for a column or dozen to sleep for 4 spins.

2) Bet that column or dozen with one unit two times.  (You can bet a column and a dozen at the same time, but not 2 dozens or columns at the same time)

3) If I win go back to step 1.  If I lose qualify another dozen or column then bet level 2 (2 units and the 3 units).  A win at any time send me back to step 1.  (The dozen or column that just loss can not qualify until it has a hit)

4) If I lost the 2/3 bets I qualify another dozen or column betting level 3 (5/8) on the next two spins.

It was  my understanding from the first post this is as far as we go.  If we loss the whole progression we start the next game with 2 units.  But reading the progressions that have been posted since there would be a level 4 & 5.

How confused am I?

Thanks
Phishalot


OKAY LETS END THE CONFUSION***
STAKING FOR THE CROSSPLAY 5 (4 LEVELS--2--3---5--8---12--18---27--41)
Total risk over 4 levels is 116 points

This may seem like a big risk, the question is how often will you LOSE 6 CONSECUTIVE GAMES??? Not very often at all. I am now 83 wins 0 losses in sessions played. The longest losing streak I have experienced is 5. The most common losing streak is 3 with you winning the 4th game. That means the vast majority of the time you will never get past level 2 staking (5,8) Remember we wait for 2 losing games (TRIGGERS) before commencing the session. I end most of my sessions after the first win. that's my secret to such a long winning streak DON'T BE THERE WHEN a 6-LOSS COMES. If you lack the patience to stop and play new sessions. My advice is after the first win you now wait for 3 triggers before your next bet. That means you have to lose 7 games  in a row to lose 116 points. That should be a rare occurance indeed like a 5loss for THE ZONE.

BASIC RULES.
(01) You wait for 2 triggers before commencing a session EXAMPLE DOZEN 1=9---COLUMN 2=7

(02) You then wait for the next dozen or column to sleep for 4 consecutive spins, that becomes your first bet.

(03) You are betting for a maximum of 2 steps SPIN 5---SPIN 6. If you don't win on these two steps. YOU STOP and wait for the next qualifying DOZEN OR COLUMN.

(04) Your staking for the first bet over spin 5 and spin 6 is 2 points--3 points LEVEL 1 STAKING. A win means you make 4 points profit for me personally SESSION OVER.

(05) If you have to bet on further games to achieve a win here is the staking used.
LEVEL 1 STAKES--2--3----GAME 1
LEVEL 2 STAKES--5--8----GAME 2
LEVEL 3 STAKES--12--18 GAME 3
LEVEL 4 SRAKES--27--41 GAME 4--(STAKING is SCOOBIES CONTRIBUTION AND GREAT)
TOTAL RISK 116 POINTS
Remember this is actually 6 games total, as we wait for 2 virtual triggers before we start. Now read what I write next very carefully. Don't play ANY session for more than ONE WIN. The chances of you bumping into a 6loss at the start of a session is EXTREMELY unlikely. And the reason I am now 83---0 in wins. I expect to make it past a hundred before I ever lose a session I really do. The beauty of SCOOBIES staking plan is, you will win a decent profit at every stage. You will seldom get past level 2 stakes. ESPECIALLY IF, you take my advice and go after 1 win per session.

I will keep saying this, with THE CROSSPLAY 5, JUST LIKE THE ZONE. The less you bet the more you will win. Remember you are trying to avoid a rare pattern. For the ZONE it is 4 losing games in a row for the DOZENS. For the CROSSPLAY 5 it is 6 losing games in a row for the DOZENS AND COLUMNS COMBINED. The less you play the better your chance of avoiding that rare pattern. I believe winning streaks of 100 plus to every loss are possible if you play this way. So basically what I am saying is you should win 400 plus points to every 116 you lose. I like that trade a lot. And so should you.  ;D




moles40

Quote from: FENDER1000 on May 31, 09:10 AM 2010


(03) You are betting for a maximum of 2 steps SPIN 5---SPIN 6. If you don't win on these two steps. YOU STOP and wait for the next qualifying DOZEN OR COLUMN.


I would recommend after you lose  a game wait again for TWO triggers ie two misses in a row and then bet the next column or dozen that has missed 4 times in a row. :)

.





moles40

Quote from: FENDER1000 on May 31, 09:10 AM 2010
OKAY LETS END THE CONFUSION***
STAKING FOR THE CROSSPLAY 5 (4 LEVELS--2--3---5--8---12--18---27--41)
Total risk over 4 levels is 116 points

This may seem like a big risk, the question is how often will you LOSE 6 CONSECUTIVE GAMES??? Not very often at all. I am now 83 wins 0 losses in sessions played. The longest losing streak I have experienced is 5. The most common losing streak is 3 with you winning the 4th game. That means the vast majority of the time you will never get past level 2 staking (5,8) Remember we wait for 2 losing games (TRIGGERS) before commencing the session. I end most of my sessions after the first win. that's my secret to such a long winning streak DON'T BE THERE WHEN a 6-LOSS COMES. If you lack the patience to stop and play new sessions. My advice is after the first win you now wait for 3 triggers before your next bet. That means you have to lose 7 games  in a row to lose 116 points. That should be a rare occurance indeed like a 5loss for THE ZONE.

BASIC RULES.
(01) You wait for 2 triggers before commencing a session EXAMPLE DOZEN 1=9---COLUMN 2=7

(02) You then wait for the next dozen or column to sleep for 4 consecutive spins, that becomes your first bet.

(03) You are betting for a maximum of 2 steps SPIN 5---SPIN 6. If you don't win on these two steps. YOU STOP and wait for the next qualifying DOZEN OR COLUMN.

(04) Your staking for the first bet over spin 5 and spin 6 is 2 points--3 points LEVEL 1 STAKING. A win means you make 4 points profit for me personally SESSION OVER.

(05) If you have to bet on further games to achieve a win here is the staking used.
LEVEL 1 STAKES--2--3----GAME 1
LEVEL 2 STAKES--5--8----GAME 2
LEVEL 3 STAKES--12--18 GAME 3
LEVEL 4 SRAKES--27--41 GAME 4--(STAKING is SCOOBIES CONTRIBUTION AND GREAT)
TOTAL RISK 116 POINTS
Remember this is actually 6 games total, as we wait for 2 virtual triggers before we start. Now read what I write next very carefully. Don't play ANY session for more than ONE WIN. The chances of you bumping into a 6loss at the start of a session is EXTREMELY unlikely. And the reason I am now 83---0 in wins. I expect to make it past a hundred before I ever lose a session I really do. The beauty of SCOOBIES staking plan is, you will win a decent profit at every stage. You will seldom get past level 2 stakes. ESPECIALLY IF, you take my advice and go after 1 win per session.

I will keep saying this, with THE CROSSPLAY 5, JUST LIKE THE ZONE. The less you bet the more you will win. Remember you are trying to avoid a rare pattern. For the ZONE it is 4 losing games in a row for the DOZENS. For the CROSSPLAY 5 it is 6 losing games in a row for the DOZENS AND COLUMNS COMBINED. The less you play the better your chance of avoiding that rare pattern. I believe winning streaks of 100 plus to every loss are possible if you play this way. So basically what I am saying is you should win 400 plus points to every 116 you lose. I like that trade a lot. And so should you.  ;D





Oh boy I'm loving this new way Fender

column3 =11
Dozen 1 = 7

-----------------------------
that's 2 virtual losses in a row and trigger

Dozen 2=5+4pts

Game over ;D

------------------------------------------------------------

column 1 =8
dozen 3 =9

that's 2 virtual losses again

-------------------------------------------

Dozen 1 = 8

level 2 stakes now

column 3 = 5 + 5 points

Game over.

Nine points profit for only 3 spins in 50 minutes ;D

That's how you beat the game.The less time you actually play the game in a session the less chance you have of being effected by the house-edge.  :)

Sure it might take you a while to wait for 2 virtual losses in a row,but it's certainly worth the wait. Patience is the key,all good things come to those who wait :D ;D


One more session later  :)

atlantis

:)

Great results moles!  :o

And thanks Fender for posting the clear rules.

Gonna give it a try real soon  ;)

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

FENDER1000

Quote from: moles40 on May 31, 02:21 PM 2010
Oh boy I'm loving this new way Fender

column3 =11
Dozen 1 = 7

-----------------------------
that's 2 virtual losses in a row and trigger

Dozen 2=5+4pts

Game over ;D

------------------------------------------------------------

column 1 =8
dozen 3 =9

that's 2 virtual losses again

-------------------------------------------

Dozen 1 = 8

level 2 stakes now

column 3 = 5 + 5 points

Game over.

Nine points profit for only 3 spins in 50 minutes ;D

That's how you beat the game.The less time you actually play the game in a session the less chance you have of being effected by the house-edge.  :)

Sure it might take you a while to wait for 2 virtual losses in a row,but it's certainly worth the wait. Patience is the key,all good things come to those who wait :D ;D


One more session later  :)

Good evening Atlantis yes exactly. PATIENCE is what its all about. Casinos rely on human failings as much as house edge for a gambler to lose. And lack of patience is one of the things that causes a gambler to lose. Timing is one of the key elements to beating roulette. When you know something is very likely to happen at a certain point. You now need the patience to wait for that time. For alot of people that is very hard to do. I am now 84---0 for the crossplay 5 after my evening session. Now let me tell you something I recorded 100 spins today. And about 50 spins after my winning session was over there was a 5 loss. Still in the winning margin. BUT, do you really want to have to face that 6th testing game with 116 points on the line? I know I don't. That is why you  must keep your sessions short and sweet.

By doing so, you give yourself a strong chance of building a great profit margin before you eventually meet that losing streak. I am hoping to break 3 figures before I do. It will be interesting to see how long I can go before it happens. Always remember this the longer the wait the safer you are. If you were to wait for 4 triggers before you bet you might go years before you lose 8 games in a row. But again, it would require great patience. To wait for those triggers. I think 3 would be the ultimate compromise. ;D ;D

keel44

I do need to clear one thing up first. 

Are you running the progression on EACH dozens and columns separately?  Or BOTH combined?  example:

Dozen 1=8    level 1 Loss (for dozens
Column 3=7  level 1 Loss (for columns

                 OR

Dozen 1=8  level 1 Loss
Column 3=7  level 2 Loss



I think it is the latter, but could it be more safe using the former?

atlantis

Quote from: keel44 on Jun 01, 12:58 AM 2010
I do need to clear one thing up first.  

Are you running the progression on EACH dozens and columns separately?  Or BOTH combined?  example:

Dozen 1=8    level 1 Loss (for dozens
Column 3=7  level 1 Loss (for columns

                 OR

Dozen 1=8  level 1 Loss
Column 3=7  level 2 Loss



I think it is the latter, but could it be more safe using the former?

Hi Keel,

I don't know but I just tested it that way on casino wiesbaden spins for 31 May - table 3. Personally I think it better to play each side individually...

DOZEN3=10
DOZEN2=8 **TRIGGER
DOZEN3=6-WON 4PTS
--END

DOZEN2=9
DOZEN1=7 ** TRIGGER
DOZEN2=6-WON 4PTS
--END

TOTAL= +8PTS


A.

PS. Out of all fenders ZONE methods I think I like this one best.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

metalrat

Hi, I have been following this thread with interest.
I agree that patience(time, focus, not having to leave the room) is a problem.  Wouldn't a bot solve this problem.  Bots do not get tired or worse, bored, waiting for the 3 or 4 losses in a row.  Especially with a system giving these results. . . . .

metalrat

FENDER1000

Quote from: metalrat on Jun 01, 07:00 AM 2010
Hi, I have been following this thread with interest.
I agree that patience(time, focus, not having to leave the room) is a problem.  Wouldn't a bot solve this problem.  Bots do not get tired or worse, bored, waiting for the 3 or 4 losses in a row.  Especially with a system giving these results. . . . .

metalrat
Metalrat, for every gain there has to be a trade. I would rather be tired and bored than broke. Casinos feed off of human weakness. And one of the biggest is lack of PATIENCE. If every gambler had PATIENCE and superior self discipline Casinos would be making alot less profit than they're I can tell you that for certain.

What Atlantis and me (pat on the back lol) have come up with, is a strategy that when used with patience is the HOLY GRAIL of roulette. I am not kidding. I have seen it all in my 30 years gambling experience. And I have seen nothing better than the crossplay 5. As I write this I am 85 & 0 in winning sessions. And most of them were played on an RNG. Yes you read right an RNG. This strategy is without equal if played with (wait for it) PATIENCE. Below are my latest results played on a live wheel. ;D

FENDER1000

Okay the streak continues. I am now a fantastic 85 wins and 0 losses in sessions. Since I started playing the CROSSPLAY 5. With the revised method it is GREAT. Here are my latest results.

TUESDAY--SESSION 1
DOZEN 2=11----TRIGGER 1
DOZEN 3=10----TRIGER 2
COLUMN 1=6+4PTS----SESSION ENDED WITH 4 POINTS PROFIT
COLUMN 2=7
COLUMN 3=5----DOZEN 1=17
DOZEN 1=8
COLUMN 2=10
DOZEN 3=5----COLUMN 3=9----SESSION COMPLETE WITH 3 WINS--7 LOSSES

TUESDAY--SESSION 2
COLUMN 3=8----TRIGGER 1
COLUMN 1=7----TRIGGER 2
DOZEN 3=7-5PTS
COLUMN 2=5+5PTS----SESSION ENDED WITH 5 POINTS PROFIT--LEVEL 2 STAKES
DOZEN 1=6----COLUMN 1=6
COLUMN 3=13
DOZEN 1=9----COLUMN 2=6
DOZEN 2=5
DOZEN 3=6----SESSION COMPLETE WITH 4 WINS--6 LOSSES

RUNNING BALANCE SINCE 17/05/2010=102 POINTS PROFIT
WINNING STREAK IS 85 WINS 0 LOSSES


One thing I will KEEP SAYING. Keep the sessions to ONE WIN. Yesterday. I recorded a 100 spin sequence and the first 50 spins were great. In the next 50 there was a 5loss with the win coming on the final attempt SPIN 6 LEVEL 4 STAKING.

Had I been a newbie with no patience I would have had to face that potentially losing game. DON'T BE THERE. One win per session. 3 sessions per day MAXIMUM is my advice. TAKE IT. I Have a winning streak of 85 an 0. Because of my patience. Of course one day I will meet a 6loss right at the very start of my session. But I want it to be later rather than sooner. I believe with tight limited play. Winning streaks of 100/1 minumum are achievable.

I haven't seen worse than a 5 loss YET. But I will its just a matter of time. The question IS, Will I be PLAYING WHEN IT COMES OR WATCHING. I know which I want to be. I will keep using this example to try and cement this idea with newbies. When I played my main strategy THE ZONE. Over ten years I saw 49 4losses. The streak that loses a session. 22 of them were in sessions I played, BUT I only suffered 3 losses. WHY? Because I wasn't there when  they happened. They happenned in the second half of my sessions. But my habit of ending a session early saved me 19 x 91pts LOSS. I hope that makes the point.

Contrary to what maths geeks will tell you there is a world of difference between playing long drawn out sessions trying to win a fortune in a short period of time. And short and sweet ones. Remember these live wheels are spinning 24/7 Losing streaks are happenning ALL THE TIME. I  am sure if you recorded a 1000 spin sequence you would see a 6loss maybe even longer. But if you are playing 2 or 3 short sessions a day that with triggers can be over IN 1 SPIN. What are the chances of you meeting that killer streak right at the start of your session? LOW. Of course you eventually will. But by then you should have won at least 50 sessions I believe 100 or more to every loss is possible. So your trade will be about 400 points to every 116 lost.  ;D

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