THE CROSSPLAY 5*****

[Phishalot]

What method do you use to push the RNG along, as you wait for triggers?

Thanks
Phishalot

[FENDER1000]

What method do you use to push the RNG along, as you wait for triggers?

Thanks
Phishalot

I cover black and red Phishalot. I know you can lose it if zero hits. I have play 56 sessions on an RNG. and been hit by zero 9 times while waiting. But the stakes I was using are 25p. I don't play the RNG to make any real money Phishalot, although I have made over 100 pounds. I was playing it to see if THE CROSSPLAY 5 could take down an RNG. And **IT DOES** that's why I know this strategy is very special. Even my previous world beater the ZONE couldn't best an RNG. I make my real money Ã,£20 points on a live wheel. I still wouldn't risk that on an RNG. I believe at low stakes and short sessions an RNG can be beaten. And the CROSSPLAY 5 proved that to me...

[Ekis]

Thanks for sharing this system.  I have just one question. .  what if a column and a dozen qualify at the same spin. .  do you bet on both of them, one of them or none of them??

[FENDER1000]

Thanks for sharing this system.  I have just one question. .  what if a column and a dozen qualify at the same spin. .  do you bet on both of them, one of them or none of them??

You would cover them both. I am not fond of splitting stakes. Thats another reason to end the session after 1 win. You average 1 twin qualifier per session and it usually happens in the middle to latter part of the 10 game frame.

[trebor]

If anyone is interested I've just lost the complete progression.  This was on my 4th go using the lastest 116 point risk.  I know Fender will say this can happen at any time but even an optimist like me is getting a bit suspicious about the amount of "bad luck" I seem to get.  Fender, if you don't post some bad luck soon people will start to think you're hiding something from us.

Trebor

[FENDER1000]

If anyone is interested I've just lost the complete progression.  This was on my 4th go using the lastest 116 point risk.  I know Fender will say this can happen at any time but even an optimist like me is getting a bit suspicious about the amount of "bad luck" I seem to get.  Fender, if you don't post some bad luck soon people will start to think you're hiding something from us.

Trebor

Trebor 4th go? I said to play for 1 win per session. I cannot post what doesn't happen Trebor when it does I will. When you say lost the progression give us the record please. I had a tough session this morning. Went to level 3 staking. And two days ago saw a 5 loss. You have to be doing something wrong Trebor to be losing all the time. Atlantis myself and moles are winning. I am not saying you can't lose. But I am saying if you don't follow my instruction to the LETTER you are more likely too.

Maybe people who seem to be unlucky should wait for 4 triggers instead of two. I actually think 3 triggers is the ULTIMATE. I have the patience for this but do you other guys. I am in no hurry to win. And even less hurry to lose. What was the losing progression lets see it trebor the way I post my results. And who were you betting with?

[FENDER1000]

WEDNESDAY--SESSION 1
DOZEN 1=7----TRIGGER 1
COLUMN 2=8----TRIGGER 2
DOZEN 1=7-5PTS
DOZEN 3=13-12PTS
COLUMN 1=6+7PTS----SESSION ENDED WITH 7PTS PROFIT--LEVEL 3 STAKES
COLUMN 2=10----DOZEN 1=5
COLUMN 1=7
DOZEN 2=11----COLUMN 3=5----SESSION COMPLETE WITH 3 WINS--7 LOSSES

WEDNESDAY--SESSION 2
DOZEN 2=11----COLUMN 1=9----TRIGGERS 1 & 2
COLUMN 1=6+4PTS---SESSION ENDED WITH 4PTS PROFIT
DOZEN 1=6
COLUMN 3=7
DOZEN 2=7
COLUMN 1=6----DOZEN 3=5
COLUMN 2=8
DOZEN 1=11----SESSION COMPLETE WITH 4 WINS--6 LOSSES

RUNNING TOTAL SINCE 17/05/2010=113 POINTS PROFIT
WINNING STREAK IS 87 WINS AND 0 LOSSES


Session 1 was a little tester gaining the win on the 5th game LEVEL 3 STAKES.

[superman]

Maybe people who seem to be unlucky should wait for 4 triggers instead of two

What difference would that make, nobody knows when losses are coming, would waiting for further triggers make noobies better?

Las Vegas can relax again me thinks

[trebor]

By go's I mean sessions.

I forgot to mention that I waited for three triggers so that was seven losing games.
Paddy Power live wheel.
With due regard for the need to keep dissent out of this thread this is my last post (in this thread).

Good luck.

Trebor

[FENDER1000]

What difference would that make, nobody knows when losses are coming, would waiting for further triggers make noobies better?

Las Vegas can relax again me thinks

I  don't, like I said the jury is still out on this one. The Zone is a definate for vegas that means profit is assured already Superman. All we are trying to do now is fine tune. See if there is something even tighter. If trebor lost 7 games okay we know that runs of 7 happen. BUT how often? Remember somebody has to meet a loss at some point. But how often does a 7 or more occur? I have played through a 4loss and seen a 5loss. Just like with the zone 4losses are happening all the time. The question is how many of them will you meet? I play two sessions a day for the Crossplay 5 one before breakfast 7---9 am. And one later in the day.I am 87 & 0 in winning sessions. Will I lose one day? Of course. But the idea is to see how long I can avoid that loss.  

To crunch some numbers basically I need about 25 winning sessions to every loss. I think that is very achievable. if 3 triggers becomes the bench mark then it becomes stronger. A 7loss may be the equivalent of a 4loss for the zone. Therefore we have to adjust for that. but over all this strategy is very consistent. I have played 87 winning sessions and recorded over 200. And the worst I have seen so far is a 5loss. In that same session span there would have been at least 3 4losses for the zone.

Its always the win to loss ratio (STRIKE-RATE) Thats important. 

[GLC]

Fender,

I've been thinking about waiting for the second loss before betting and when you do start betting, you start on the second level of bets.

Since the first stage of betting is only 1,1, I'm not sure it's worth it to wait as long as you sometimes have to for 2 losses in a row just to save 2 units.  This only increases your total loss possible from 116 to 118. 

Granted my perspective may be different if I were betting $30 units.  But for those of us who are considering using this system and building up our bankrolls, all the waiting is a real test of patience.

If we discover that waiting for 3 losses is necessary,  then the 2 units risked becomes even less of a factor.

I may be wrong.  Just throwing in a little different perspective.

Cheers, George

[Side B]

Hi everyone, just signed up to this forum, but been following Fender's posts on this forum and also on the "previous one".  So Fender, I feel like I know you a bit now, and I've been interested in your systems from the start. 

I've been playing the ZONE for other a month and have found it in one casino, then had a couple of 4 losses so ended up wiping most of all my hard-earned profit.  I switched to Crossplay 5 yesterday and it's been ok but I had one instance of winning on the 6th game yesterday, so that was a hairy moment I could have done without! I think so far that waiting for 2 losses on a dozen or a column before betting on either respectively is a must. 

I'm using a slightly less scary progression, some of you might want to use, I wait for two losses on either a dozen or a column and then bet as follows:

Game Stake Win   Lose      Gain
3          1         3       -1         2
3          1         3       -2         1
4          2         6       -4         2
4          3         9       -7         2
5          5        15      -12       3
5          7        21      -19       2
6         10       30      -29       1
6         15        45     -44       1
7         23        69      -67       2
7         35       105   -102       3

[moles40]

Agreed we need to change the staking pattern.

The current one is too risky,this is one staking plan I found over at G Glenn roulette forum,it was for the EC bets but I think it would work well on the crossplay.

Wait for 2 virtual losses

then play the following progression

1
1
2
3
4
6
9
14
21
32

Total risk 93 points.

You would need to loose 8 game in a row to be wiped out

[Side B]

I think that's 7 games, not 8.

Anyway, just had 6 losing games in a row playing on columns.  It won on the 7th but I didn't dare play it.  I used a slightly lower progression than the one in my post above, so only lost Ã,£31.  Still, I'm thinking I should switch back to the Zone. . .

[FENDER1000]

Hi everyone, just signed up to this forum, but been following Fender's posts on this forum and also on the "previous one".  So Fender, I feel like I know you a bit now, and I've been interested in your systems from the start. 

I've been playing the ZONE for other a month and have found it in one casino, then had a couple of 4 losses so ended up wiping most of all my hard-earned profit.  I switched to Crossplay 5 yesterday and it's been ok but I had one instance of winning on the 6th game yesterday, so that was a hairy moment I could have done without! I think so far that waiting for 2 losses on a dozen or a column before betting on either respectively is a must. 

I'm using a slightly less scary progression, some of you might want to use, I wait for two losses on either a dozen or a column and then bet as follows:

Game Stake Win   Lose      Gain
3          1         3       -1         2
3          1         3       -2         1
4          2         6       -4         2
4          3         9       -7         2
5          5        15      -12       3
5          7        21      -19       2
6         10       30      -29       1
6         15        45     -44       1
7         23        69      -67       2
7         35       105   -102       3

Thats a good idea Side B and welcome. I think we need to wait for 3 even 4 triggers with the crossplay to make it safer. When playing only dozens or columns I have never seen more than 7 games before it returns to 5 or 6 so I am thinking after what Trebor said that 7 losing games is the virtual limit. You know if you know there is a point that seldom gets crosessed you should still be as close to it as possible. I would say 2 triggers for THE ZONE and 4 FOR THE CROSSPLAY 5. TELL ME HOW OFTEN YOU SEE A 5LOSS FOR THE zone AND AN 8LOSS FOR THE CROSSPLAY 5.

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