Kimo Li's Methods

[1eleven]

Hi thelaw.
in Mood for another Test?
I can Confirm that pinwheel works for me too - but Betting 12 Numbers gets scary sometimes.
So i tweaked it and reduce the Bet Selection to six numbers.
So please Post another 12 Number sequence and i will try to get a hit with 6 Numbers in six Spins.
Regards, Max

How did you confirm this?  and what is your hit rate?

Thanks

[thelaw]

What do you mean?

Simple. Just stop after the first win which may come on your first, second or third bet. That way you don' play all 3 and incur all of those losses.

If you're hitting anything close to 50% without any major deviation (what kills every progression) then this is a winning method.

For instance, every EC progression loses because of the swings that can go as low as 25% win over 100 spins. If you can keep it at roughly 50%, then it's a winner for sure.

My concern would be why we haven't heard about this as an overall winner before. It doesn't sound all that complicated, so what's the catch?

Any ideas?

[thelaw]

One more thing, if you look at the "Target Betting blog", this guy claims to have the HG, which is a modified Marti. At first you think: "bullshit", but then he drops that fact that you need a bankroll to handle 1-5000 unit swing.

My point is that we've been trying to beat the game with horrible possible swings, but if we can mitigate that, then we have a manageable situation.

If we can get a good handle on what this method looks like over 100 bets, then we could reach out to GLC for the best progression (he seems to know them all).

[1eleven]

Simple. Just stop after the first win which may come on your first, second or third bet. That way you don' play all 3 and incur all of those losses.

If you're hitting anything close to 50% without any major deviation (what kills every progression) then this is a winning method.

For instance, every EC progression loses because of the swings that can go as low as 25% win over 100 spins. If you can keep it at roughly 50%, then it's a winner for sure.

My concern would be why we haven't heard about this as an overall winner before. It doesn't sound all that complicated, so what's the catch?

Any ideas?

Right - this is why I was confused by your question because that's what I calculated - one hit and done.

[1eleven]

If we can get a good handle on what this method looks like over 100 bets, then we could reach out to GLC for the best progression (he seems to know them all).

I don't think there's a one size fits all progression.  Determine the ROI you're after, the bankroll you want to risk, and go from there. 

[thelaw]

I don't think there's a one size fits all progression.  Determine the ROI you're after, the bankroll you want to risk, and go from there.

Sure. If we are talking in absolutes then, if you had millions, you could use any progression.

To truly have a HG system, you would probably need the following (my opinion based on the posts I've read over the years) :

1) System that works with a moderate bankroll (less than $500)

2) System that can be used on a live wheel without an enormous amount of waiting (betting at least once every five spins)

3) System that can be calculated in time to make proper bets

4) Bets must be placed before the dealer releases ball

5) System that everyone can learn (within reason-no "gut feeling" - just simple math)

What do you think?

[1eleven]

Sure. If we are talking in absolutes then, if you had millions, you could use any progression.

To truly have a HG system, you would probably need the following (my opinion based on the posts I've read over the years) :

1) System that works with a moderate bankroll (less than $500)

2) System that can be used on a live wheel without an enormous amount of waiting (betting at least once every five spins)

3) System that can be calculated in time to make proper bets

4) Bets must be placed before the dealer releases ball

5) System that everyone can learn (within reason-no "gut feeling" - just simple math)

What do you think?

I agree with most of this.  As for #1, I prefer to think in terms of units and percentages.  For #5, my gut is full of $%#.

Kimo Li claims to use 4 spins or less as his trigger.  I know we used 12 spins in this test but in terms of 'hit and run' I'm not sure it's necessary.  No idea what his pattern indicators are though.   

[RFMAXX]

Here you go :

0
32
6
21
1
25
32
8
19
30
7
8

Good luck!

thanks.

22,25,32,33,35,36 for 6 spins.

please post the next 6 numbers. if there is no hit, i give you another set of six for the same perm.

max

[thelaw]

I agree with most of this.  As for #1, I prefer to think in terms of units and percentages.  For #5, my gut is full of $%#.

Kimo Li claims to use 4 spins or less as his trigger.  I know we used 12 spins in this test but in terms of 'hit and run' I'm not sure it's necessary.  No idea what his pattern indicators are though.   

So were you using the all 12 previous numbers, or just the last 4?

[thelaw]

thanks.

22,25,32,33,35,36 for 6 spins.

please post the next 6 numbers. if there is no hit, i give you another set of six for the same perm.

max

Hey Remaxx,

Here are the next 6:

18
10
18
18
2
1

No hits

Table #2 - 03.01.2015

[RFMAXX]

thanks.
there was no hit even when played 12 numbers for three spins.

next 6: 1,3,11,15,17,18

same perm.

[1eleven]

So were you using the all 12 previous numbers, or just the last 4?

I looked at all 12.  Looking back, I could have just used the last 6 and got the same result except for the Test 8 that I lost since it was:
111
111

[1eleven]

How did you confirm this?  and what is your hit rate?

Thanks

RFMAXX, could you answer this please?

[RFMAXX]

RFMAXX, could you answer this please?

i track by hand and use duisburg spins.
so far, i played 7 sessions. all won.
now i am testing my tweak because i got scary as you told, you missed 9 times in a row.

maybe the penthouse prog is good to survive 9 misses. will do more tests of course.

[thelaw]

thanks.
there was no hit even when played 12 numbers for three spins.

next 6: 1,3,11,15,17,18

same perm.

next 6 spins :

24
19
1w
29
25
15w

w/l : 1/1 (or 2/12)