Holy Grail by Winkel open for discussion.

[Azim]

So what is it that tells you a "crossing" is more likely to hit?
Just guess-work I'd say.

If you are as smart as you want everyone to believe you are. This would have been the dumbest question asked.

This has been explained on all threads that have GUT mentioned.  Based on your question I am under the assumption that you haven't read any thing and have just been opening your mouth.

There is one person who fit's this emo. I only hope its not him under different name.

[Madi]

Got a question again?

With due respect to mr. winkle

As we already know that normally in 37 spin cycle 24 number hit once , 12 number hit more than once and 10-13 number remains unhit.

Say if we got a position  comes as a crossing like 16 unhit vs 15 hit. After analyzing all the trot and other thing we decided to bet on 16 unhit number.

So my question is we already know 12 number will remain unhit in 37 spin and that 12 number is inside that 16 unhit number if i m not wrong. So in that case we have only 4 numbers left inside that 16 number which will hit in the remaining spin till 37.

So it is 4 vs 15 number?( unless we assume that in 37 spin 37 differrent number will hit)

I have tried to make u understand with my word. Am i wrong? Looking for your valuable advice.

Madi

[winkel]

So my question is we already know 12 number will remain unhit in 37 spin and that 12 number is inside that 16 unhit number if i m not wrong. So in that case we have only 4 numbers left inside that 16 number which will hit in the remaining spin till 37.

So it is 4 vs 15 number?( unless we assume that in 37 spin 37 differrent number will hit)

Madi

It is wrong by logic.

Try it this way:
Whatever we got at spin 25 we expect that in the next 12 spins only 6 new numbers will hit.
If we got 17 at spin 25 we expect 11 numbers left at spin 37.
At the crossing point we check: how many new numbers did already hit and how many are left to hit.
If we got 24 numbers remaining unhit at spin 25 we expect 18 numbers left at spin 37.
and so on.

hope you got it.

br
winkel

[Madi]

Yep got ur point.

Say in 25 th we  got 17 unhit and its a crossing.
                 17 vs 16
At the crossing point  which one got more probability 17/37 vs 16/37?

Or 6/ 37 vs 16 /37 ? As i m thinking we can deduct that 11 number ( law of third) will not come in 37.

I might be wrong in my way of thinking. Learning from advice.

Thanks
Madi

[Parisd]

My very first post on any roulette forum. I have read 40 out of the 80 pages of "the holy grail or GUT" on another forum, dated 2008, unfortunately too many of winkel posts were deleted (no idea why) and at page 38 he stopped answering questions. I also went through the youtube videos with gut trackers done by 2catsam also many years ago.

I will try to threw my first basic GUT question 8 years later... on this thread that seems active in feb 2017, I beleive I understood the crossing, at least the simple one between hit and unhit just not sure the reasoning behing betting at crossing.

That's not yet my question, I am back soon in a second post. Some of you may ask me to do my homework, well will go through the last 40 pages if I understand the basic idea behind crossing.

[falkor2k15]

Do yourself a favour and buy the ebook!

[nottophammer]

Do yourself a favour and buy the ebook!

Do yourself a favour just bet the first 7 #'s and if no win carry on with last 7 at 2 units, it's posted how to do it.

[falkor2k15]

Do yourself a favour just bet the first 7 #'s and if no win carry on with last 7 at 2 units, it's posted how to do it.

You never posted exact instructions for ktf... need 1 clear post showing how to play. I can then test it. But when you explain something you have to imagine we are all idiots and give overview and context first then drill down deeper into the detail of how to play.

[3Nine]

You never posted exact instructions for ktf... need 1 clear post showing how to play. I can then test it. But when you explain something you have to imagine we are all idiots and give overview and context first then drill down deeper into the detail of how to play.

Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=0JNO0TBbpSc

[thelaw]

You never posted exact instructions for ktf... need 1 clear post showing how to play. I can then test it. But when you explain something you have to imagine we are all idiots and give overview and context first then drill down deeper into the detail of how to play.

Yeah Nottophammer..........why can't you communicate more effectively like Falkor!!!

[RouletteGhost]

You never posted exact instructions for ktf... need 1 clear post showing how to play.

Is that a joke

Not only has he done so, but he has posted a zillion sheets

If you don't understand KTF then man wtf is wrong with you!

You are crazy man!

[denzie]

You never posted exact instructions for ktf... need 1 clear post showing how to play. I can then test it. But when you explain something you have to imagine we are all idiots and give overview and context first then drill down deeper into the detail of how to play.

It's explained in detail. It's really not that hard to find it. 

[Parisd]

Do yourself a favour and buy the ebook!

Winkel said the ebook from gut.co is not his gut strategy, unless there are multiple ebooks for sale.

[falkor2k15]

You guys are being vague and bear-baiting - I'm gonna tell Steve! 

[Parisd]

Here is my GUT strategy question and I apologyse if it is written somewhere but when the GUT threads are 8 years old it is close to impossible to read all especially with the relevant posts from Winkeld being ereased;

Just talking of unhit numbers and hit numbers to simplify.
I dont get the rational of betting at a crossing of imaginary lines like 19 hits and 18 unhit. Crossing will happen but not quicker than any decrease of unhit and increase of hit that will also happen until they reach this crossing line. How the chance of getting a new hit number and win in 1 bet at exactly a crossing like 19-18 is higher that getting a new hit number at for exemple 12 hit - 25 unhit, I would rather say that it is more probable to have new hit at 12-25 than at 19-18, except that we cannot call it a crossing, but the idea is to have a new hit and win units, no? (Ok, We do get more net units at 19-18 than at 12-25, true)

Also watchinh to 2catsam youtube video, he is using a tracking software, he is betting at 2-2 on the hit twice and hit three times. It probably took multiple spins to have 2 of the twice hit to reach 3 times hit, why suddenly bet on that last 2 hit twice assuming one of them will be hit three times, again I dont see a high probability nor do I get the rational behing this (ok I can bet 18 times on this one if I wish but unless the roulette is biased which would explain why these 2 numbers are being hit multiple times, I could bet 18 times on 2 others numbers)

I am telling myself I must miss something as GUT is here since 8 years,so there is something good behing.

Thanks for any valuable answer,