Holy Grail by Winkel open for discussion.

[Blue_Angel]

I don't find any reason why that by betting crossings would be better than betting black VS red numbers.
The reasoning that every group has to cross eventually is flawed, everything has to show up eventualy and crossings are no exception, additionally you have to chart all those numbers in groups which represent how many times a number hit since you start observing it.

Why this method is better than the system next thread?!
Com'on Winkel, are you trying to save a sinking ship?
Why don't you save yourself instead?

[Madi]

I heard about red black crossing. How to play this? Can u plz show or give us a example

[falkor2k15]

everything has to show up eventualy and crossings are no exception

But different events have different windows and limits till they show. Crossings have a very narrow window compared to, say, all 0-hits to show at least once.

[Blue_Angel]

I heard about red black crossing. How to play this? Can u plz show or give us a example

For example you see black was the result of the last spin, bet red on next spin, if you won run to the exit, if you lost move to the next crossing ''odd VS even''...

[Madi]

  ok got it blue.

[Parisd]

19vs 18 not suggested to bet . Ok lets see why u bet this? Say u bet 34vs 3 . Better chance ? Yes. But risk reward is not satisfactory. U can also lose at that point even two times even three times. Say u lose 2 times. 68 unit gone. Stop playing start again. Now u bet 34vs3. U win. But little. Lets see 19vs 18. After analyzing trot u decided bet on it. U lose first bet. Now it become 19vs17 and then 18vs 18. U bet lose again. U total loss 37 unit . Stop playing start again. Bet again 19vs 18 with 1 unit or 2 unit each number. U will see the difference. Same thing if 16vs16 then 16vs 15. U will get 2 chance if win u in profit. 10vs 9 will get three chance to recover. But ur 36vs 1 risk reward is low. Hope u got the answer

Madi, you are just telling it is more convenient because return is better to bet at 19-18 eg at crossing than betting before the crossing but not providing any justification for betting precisely at crossings. I knew 19-18 was not recommanded was using using it as illustration for my question.

[Parisd]

He bet this 2vs2 because it is a crossing. He did bet it despite of me saying: Don´t bet before spin 25. (betting other spins beside crossing was to be explained. But I stopped to explain further possibilities because of to much hate-postings)
And you don´t bet 18 times these 2 numbers because when the crossing disappears you´ll have to stop betting.
The wheel doesn´t have to be biased to to happen that win. I saw several time the same number to hit 3 or 4 Times in the first spins.

Winkel, you wrote "he bet at 2-2 because it is a crossing" i understood that and thats the only reason why he bet at 2-2, it was probably after 25 spins. I understood too that he does not have to bet 18 consecutive times, he can bet then stop betting until that 2-2 crossing happens and this up to 18 times,
but my question remains what is the rational behing betting at a crossing like this 2-2,
I would rather bet on any 2 unhits after 25 spins than on 2 that have been hit twice, knowing that I can bet up to 18 consecutive time until one of these 2 unhit is hit.

[Parisd]

I don't find any reason why that by betting crossings would be better than betting black VS red numbers.
The reasoning that every group has to cross eventually is flawed, everything has to show up eventualy and crossings are no exception, additionally you have to chart all those numbers in groups which represent how many times a number hit since you start observing it.

Why this method is better than the system next thread?!
Com'on Winkel, are you trying to save a sinking ship?
Why don't you save yourself instead?

I agree with Blue Angel, when I read that crossing has to happen, yes it has but this is not a justification to bet on it, everything has to happen soon or later not only the crossing
36-1 has to happen
25-12 has to happen
19-18 crossing has to happen
Repeat twice has to happen before hitting 3 times
And so on

[Parisd]

I don´t bet these combinations. So it is absurd to dicuss such matter.

absurd to bring something which is not what you do?

These GUT thread is 8 years old I find strange, should I say absurd, that a proper rational to bet at crossing rather than betting at other moment like 34-3 is not yet explained in this recent thread especially that Winkel is participating.

We are just comparing betting threshold (your is at crossing) and trying to figure why your method ask to bet only at crossing when betting at other moment couls also make sens, Some of us dont have 8 years of practice and maths behing us to figure it.

[falkor2k15]

but my question remains what is the rational behing betting at a crossing like this 2-2,

The rationale is that a crossing close to a Non-Random event - it has to happen within a certain window - but there's no strict defined limit. Best to study Priyanka's Random Thoughts then come back to this later.

[Parisd]

The rationale is that a crossing close to a Non-Random event - it has to happen within a certain window - but there's no strict defined limit. Best to study Priyanka's Random Thoughts then come back to this later.

Yes Falkor, I have started 2 days ago to read Random thoughts, your posts and Priyanka posts are for the moment in a language that is outside my confort zone, maybe because I am a non native english speaker, maybe my IQ... but will make more efforts and limit my questions.
Not sure to come back to GUT as GUT was discovered before random thought shows up and I dont get the use of random though to explain the crossing in GUT, was hoping for a clear answer from Winkel, as everything well understood can generaly be easely explain

[Madi]

Ofcource u should pick up more convenient one. When you know that anything can happen better pick up 19vs 18
Rather than 36vs1. And why u pick up 2vs 2? U can pick up 2 unhit  for 18 times those could be sleeper. But the two number hit twice  2vs2 is performing above expectation and already lander in the field. These 2 number can go 3 hit 4 hit. Why not this is better bet?

[winkel]

Mr winkle,

Show us some more. At least we learn something.doesnt have to be grail.Haters will hate we cant stop them . Why dont you think about the lovers. Lovers are still there thats why people ask questions after 8 years. I personally learnt a lot from trot analysis .cheers

Madi you can see how this is developing to an aggressiv attack by the known people. So this will be one of my last answers to this matter.

[winkel]

Why this method is better than the system next thread?!
Com'on Winkel, are you trying to save a sinking ship?
Why don't you save yourself instead?

Again: You are not forced to bet this strategy, nor even to read about it.

[RouletteGhost]

Winkel

You are a good contributor

Maybe you need thicker skin

Ignore the negative people