Deja Vu?

[atlantis]

*NEW* Silverthorne and Gamblers Bookcase present:

"THE VF FORMULA"

For roulette, craps, baccarat.....

link:://:.gamblersbookcase.com/VFFormula/

It states there that:
"The VF Formula is a NEW way of playing the casino table games that overturns all of the old rules."

Except that it isn't new!!!

In fact, it is simply yet another reboot of a pre-existing system:

link:://:.gamblersbookcase.com/StrikeForceGambling/

Don't be fooled.

Take care,
A.

[atlantis]

Good morning all,

I had to check that it wasn't April 1st this morning when I discovered yet ANOTHER latest system touted by them...

"$32 Is All You Need to Win! You'll Easily Win $2,850 Every Two Hours! Instant Free Download of "How to Play Roulette Like a Pro!"

:.SuperSevensRoulette.com

I watched the video that accompanies this one:
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=TQwkXDL2wjw

and it certainly triggered off my deja vu again!   

Their vids always follow the same pattern.

Also, apparently there only 500 copies of this ever going to be released! Yeah. Right!

Now, (shock horror) this could be a new one because I cannot find it elsewhere in their repertoire under a different name; but it looks like its just basic "pair-betting" on inside numbers to me. (see video)

I'm betting it is just another variant of their recent quads, lines and street systems eg: superquadsroulette, rouletteformulacbw, streetsmartroulette.. etc. except this time being applied to "splits".

As always, take care and don't be fooled.

A. 

[atlantis]

Latest one is The CB Roulette System from Russell Hunter (Silverthorne & associates)

:.gamblersbookcase.com/CBSystem/

This is a combo bet system using only the EC's R/B and O/E

Don't be fooled  - it is simply a reboot/rebrand of the already available:

:.gamblersbookcase.com/DoubleActionRoulette/

Take care,
A.

[atlantis]

Good morning. People - get ready!

Hot off the presses and hot on the heels of previous wealth creating masterpieces (cough.. cough..) comes:
"SLAM BETTING"

Video here:
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=SbGAOFyVnFY

This purports to be an old system originated by some old-time gambler; a guy by the name of "Zeke Steiner"...

link:://:.gamblersbookcase.com/SlamBetting/

Silverthorne tells us a little story of how he ran into the old fella one day after some time and Ol' Zeke tells him about how he used to clean up at the Casino's at Craps, Blackjack and Roulette in the "good ol' days" and how he used to teach kids who were down on their luck how to win using spotting and slamming.
Silverthorne then goes on about how they went on a gambling trip where he witnesses for himself the AWESOME POWER of Zeke's play.

After this he gets his testers together to test it out and:
"By the time my testers had finished, they had played 5,249 games and won well over one million dollars." WOW!
"Even though Zeke prefers to play roulette and baccarat, we have also tested this strategy at craps, blackjack and even Sic Bo." AMAZING!

Zeke thinks it worth and wants him to release it for $5000 - but Silverthorne (bless his soul) manages on 'our behalf' to broker a deal to release it for $499 -and then further reduces it for a select few to $99 - but only if they act quickly without delay!  (The usual come-on tactical sales hooks, so familiar that feature on ALL his sales pages)

"Special Limited Offer where you can get this Turnkey High Profit, Low-Risk System for 80% off the list price.  But don’t delay.  You must order by Sunday, May 15, 2016  to get the Special Price for this Very Special Strategy!"

Of course, most people can see through this technique - yes - you've guessed it - the date changes EVERY DAY - and that's why it's SO SO SILLY...

After reading through his quaint little yarn (fairy story - more like) I experience a sudden feeling of Deja Vu!

Well blow me down with a trannies boa feather! If it isn't an EXACT REPLICA repackage of The "Steiger" Strategy... YET AGAIN!!!
link:://:.gamblersbookcase.com/SteigerStrategy/

Except this time Zeke Steiner = High Roller Lex Steiger (note name similarity)

HeeHee - In this "likely story" Silverthorne is on a break in London's West End

On our third night there we went to see Phantom of the Opera.  It was really good and I recommend it even if you are not a fan of theater.  After the performance Diane was ready for a break so I hailed a London taxi to take her back to the flat.

I headed for a bar patronized by â€" you guessed it â€" actors, producers, agents, stage managers and even a couple of well known stand up comics.  I was on my second lager and feeling a bit out of my element when another person joined our group.  Everyone at the table knew him and he introduced himself to me.

“I’m Lex Steiger.  And, you’re Martin Silverthorne, correct?  We have some things we need to discuss.”

I had heard of Lex Steiger before.  He used to gamble quite a bit in Las Vegas.  I hadn’t ever met him before, but I knew of him by reputation.  He was one of the highest winning players of all time.  And, he was very secretive.  He came and went on his own schedule and tended to play alone.  I told him I was delighted to finally meet him.

He nodded, ordered a drink and then turned back to me.  “Let’s move over to that quiet spot in the corner.  We need to talk.”

I grabbed my lager and walked with Steiger to another table.  I looked forward to a break from acting and theatre.

Steiger’s Deal. “I’ll Reveal My System, However . . .

Martin may have a future as an author in the fantasy/fiction writing business.
He really wants us to believe these guys, Zeke and Lex are real persons and exist. But I ask you, how can two different people, poles apart both originate the SAME strategy?
Now I know you can change names for anonymity reasons but this really EXPOSES the whole shebang!
As I said - is simply the "Steiger Strategy" all dressed up in new clothes. Don't be fooled.

Take care,
A.

[atlantis]

Hi to all regular readers of this ongoing saga....
Well it's the start of a new month and wouldn't you know it -

NEW from 'Greg Fletcher' (Silverthorne &Co.) is
"Blackjack Channel Betting"

link:://:.gamblersbookcase.com/ChannelBetting/

Purports to beat every version of Blackjack dealt today. Make fortunes... blah..blah.... yada yada yada..
(This guy must be absolutely loaded with all these winning systems!)

“As a $50 bettor I have been winning $1,011 an hour.  Break out the Champaign!”
George J. â€" Saint Louis, Missouri"



Now they obviously don't read this "deja vu" topic or they would at least try and make an effort and change the wording on their oh so L-O-N-G ads!
Regular readers will understand and know better of course because its pretty amazing and a little thoughtless that the testimonials and (ahem) "success stories" on this page they've chosen turn out to be EXACTLY THE SAME as those testimonials on this OTHER page -

From Russell Hunter, this time (must be absolutely loaded with all of his winning systems)

"Target Blackjack" from 2015

link:://:.targetblackjack.com/

“As a $50 bettor I have been winning $1,011 an hour.  Break out the Champaign!”
George J. â€" Saint Louis, Missouri"

But - not finished yet - my heightened sense of  'deja vu' also leads me to a still further page and, alarm bells should be ringing very loudly, now as they even have a BACCARAT system advertised under another name!!!

From George Stearn, this time (Silverthorne & Co. must be absolutely loaded with all his systems)
The "Five-Count Baccarat Strategy"

:.gamblersbookcase.com/Five-CountBaccarat/

Same testimonials from same people - but this is Baccarat! - a totally different table game !?

“As a $50 bettor I have been winning $1,011 an hour.  Break out the Champaign!”
George J. â€" Saint Louis, Missouri"

This leads me to believe that this rebrand is another incarnation of the same kind of mathematical/counting system being flogged by them for some years now.

Now they really should be told to use a spellcheck after they cut and paste...
HINT: It's: "champagne" not "champaign", Martin...



Take care and don't be fooled,

A.

[vladir]

Hi to all regular readers of this ongoing saga....
Well it's the start of a new month and wouldn't you know it -

NEW from 'Greg Fletcher' (Silverthorne &Co.) is
"Blackjack Channel Betting"

link:://:.gamblersbookcase.com/ChannelBetting/

Purports to beat every version of Blackjack dealt today. Make fortunes... blah..blah.... yada yada yada..
(This guy must be absolutely loaded with all these winning systems!)

“As a $50 bettor I have been winning $1,011 an hour.  Break out the Champaign!”
George J. â€" Saint Louis, Missouri"



Now they obviously don't read this "deja vu" topic or they would at least try and make an effort and change the wording on their oh so L-O-N-G ads!
Regular readers will understand and know better of course because its pretty amazing and a little thoughtless that the testimonials and (ahem) "success stories" on this page they've chosen turn out to be EXACTLY THE SAME as those testimonials on this OTHER page -

From Russell Hunter, this time (must be absolutely loaded with all of his winning systems)

"Target Blackjack" from 2015

link:://:.targetblackjack.com/

“As a $50 bettor I have been winning $1,011 an hour.  Break out the Champaign!”
George J. â€" Saint Louis, Missouri"

But - not finished yet - my heightened sense of  'deja vu' also leads me to a still further page and, alarm bells should be ringing very loudly, now as they even have a BACCARAT system advertised under another name!!!

From George Stearn, this time (Silverthorne & Co. must be absolutely loaded with all his systems)
The "Five-Count Baccarat Strategy"

:.gamblersbookcase.com/Five-CountBaccarat/

Same testimonials from same people - but this is Baccarat! - a totally different table game !?

“As a $50 bettor I have been winning $1,011 an hour.  Break out the Champaign!”
George J. â€" Saint Louis, Missouri"

This leads me to believe that this rebrand is another incarnation of the same kind of mathematical/counting system being flogged by them for some years now.

Now they really should be told to use a spellcheck after they cut and paste...
HINT: It's: "champagne" not "champaign", Martin...



Take care and don't be fooled,

A.

Spelling errors gives them credibility. They must be drunk with all that Champaign anyway.

[PeaBea65]

Now they obviously don't read this "deja vu" topic or they would at least try and make an effort and change the wording on their oh so L-O-N-G ads!

Maybe this forum is not as widely read as we thought.  Or they just don't give a shyte and there are enough idiots around to make a $ off them.

[BellagioOwner]

:.SuperSevensRoulette.com

I watched the video that accompanies this one:
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=TQwkXDL2wjw

and it certainly triggered off my deja vu again!   

Their vids always follow the same pattern.

Also, apparently there only 500 copies of this ever going to be released! Yeah. Right!

Now, (shock horror) this could be a new one because I cannot find it elsewhere in their repertoire under a different name; but it looks like its just basic "pair-betting" on inside numbers to me. (see video)

I'm betting it is just another variant of their recent quads, lines and street systems eg: superquadsroulette, rouletteformulacbw, streetsmartroulette.. etc. except this time being applied to "splits".

As always, take care and don't be fooled.

so. i'm pretty sure this system sold on their site based on splits and seven split bets won't be any HG as they advertise. It would have been much more famous or discussed.

I still like though to read how people approach roulette and the odds/probabilities/MM etc. It's intresting and innovative some times. I tried to fill the free subscription form to download for free their ebook of the method but seems that they don't support the subscription service anymore and i couldn't downlaod it. Since they were having it on their site for free does anyone has by any chance the e-book about the splits bet system of their site or knows where can we find it? I would like to see it.

Maybe you have it @atlantis? since you post a lot on these systems and reviews on them.

thanks for any reply. have fun around!

[atlantis]

so. i'm pretty sure this system sold on their site based on splits and seven split bets won't be any HG as they advertise. It would have been much more famous or discussed.

I still like though to read how people approach roulette and the odds/probabilities/MM etc. It's intresting and innovative some times. I tried to fill the free subscription form to download for free their ebook of the method but seems that they don't support the subscription service anymore and i couldn't downlaod it. Since they were having it on their site for free does anyone has by any chance the e-book about the splits bet system of their site or knows where can we find it? I would like to see it.

Maybe you have it @atlantis? since you post a lot on these systems and reviews on them.

thanks for any reply. have fun around!

Hi BellagioOwner,
I do not have it  - but am sure you're right about it.
The 'free book' does not reveal the method anyhow - and is just more advert for their systems most likely than not.
I'm also interested if anyone has it...

A.

[BellagioOwner]

i've seen somewhat success in the past with some fun systems based on splits. So i would liek to give it a fast read just for fun. tempting. anyway. not any HG but still fun to play 

[BellagioOwner]

I do not have it  - but am sure you're right about it.
The 'free book' does not reveal the method anyhow - and is just more advert for their systems most likely than not.

So. You mean you don't have the whole method but at least you have the free ebook? You know the concept of at least the free e-book but it is still not the whole method? You posted about their site on april so you may have been in time to subscribe on the ebook? because it's not there anymore.

If you have the e-book but still is not the full method i would love to see at least this. It must be something better than the NOTHING that they post on the site. if you don;t have it, nevermind.

[atlantis]

So. You mean you don't have the whole method but at least you have the free ebook? You know the concept of at least the free e-book but it is still not the whole method? You posted about their site on april so you may have been in time to subscribe on the ebook? because it's not there anymore.

If you have the e-book but still is not the full method i would love to see at least this. It must be something better than the NOTHING that they post on the site. if you don;t have it, nevermind.

Hi BellagioOwner,
No- I don't have the full method or the free book. Like yourself I couldn't subscribe to get the free book either on their page...
The other free book "Online Gold" can be got from here:
link:s://:.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiZs6Pp_Y3NAhWoCMAKHXzgDZkQFghFMAA&url=link:%3A%2F%2F:.gamblersbookcase.com%2FJaggerFormula%2FdnFreJFrf8222rV9%2FOnlineGold-BeatOnlineCasinos.pdf&usg=AFQjCNHuVg1vNacYPqGzS5InXRV2ESH8AA&bvm=bv.123664746,d.ZGg

but it is nothing to do with the Super Sevens Roulette so I doubt will be of any use to you.

I watched the vid of Super Sevens Roulette and it seems you start off betting the last hit split and add the next hit split and so until you have abt. 7 or 9 splits in play linked with a progression.
If so, that can actually do quite well - until a dreaded bust-out occurs, of course...

[atlantis]

Now we have - "The Power V Formula" for craps, baccarat and roulette!
"The Power V Formula Is So Powerful That Players Gain a 28 to 1 Edge Over The Casinos!"

:.GamblersBookcase.com/PowerVFormula

A new video of it posted here just today:
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=5S4m4-fvC7A

The page headline states:

"Professional Level Gambling System Just Released!"

That is not true and is simply a load of HOGWASH

It is hardly even new or just released as they spout. It is in fact the same as this one:

link:://:.silverthornepublications.net/PowerVFormula/
An oldie from 2011 - that's FIVE YEARS AGO! Hardly hot off the presses!

Anyway...

Google: 'the power v formula' and I found the pdf book quite easily readable from the top of the search replies!

Also I found this link further down in the search results:
:.silverthornepublications.net/PowerVFormula/dnPVF2241Rf5b8.htm
where you can even access the bonuses too!

Take care and don't be fooled.

Regards,
A.

[mogul397]

Hi,

Our old friend Martin Silverthorne and his partners are at it again!

sharpshooterroulette.com

Don't be fooled - Simply a reboot of "SuperQuadsRoulette" now advertised under a different name

montecarlomultiplier.com

Huge advert for this! Took ages to scroll through all the guff.

There's a VERY SUSPECT (like all of theirs) video demo of it here:
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=YKvm4nWXigU

Apparently this works on roulette, craps, baccarat and sic bo!

And get this-
"Using a System Based on the Same Principles Used to Develop the First Atomic Bomb!"

"The Power Behind this Extraordinary System Comes From a Process So Powerful It Was Used to Develop the First Atomic Bomb!
In the mid 1940s a secret project was under way at Los Alamos National Laboratory.  Hidden in the mountaintop town of Los Alamos, New Mexico, it was so secret that even Harry Truman had never heard of it when he became president...."

AND SO IT GOES ON........ AND ON......   

Couldn't help smiling a little whilst drinking my morning coffee as I read through all this 

Works by betting BOTH sides of an EC... although why on earth he has not used DIFFERENTIAL betting God only knows!?

Take care,
A.

I just bought (and returned for a refund) Silverthornes "Slam betting".
The method was not bad and as good as any I've seen. It actually
had a bit of thought in it.  The reason I "returned" it was because I
learned and worked it, and hit a loss on like the 2nd or 3rd round.
2nd I think.

I know I'm famous as the "thread breaker" of seeing and doing that kind of
thing (just look at how many threads my name is on the last post).

But after all is said and done, there really is a "feel". A sense of if a method
has some mojo, or just "cut and ran".

[atlantis]

I just bought (and returned for a refund) Silverthornes "Slam betting".
The method was not bad and as good as any I've seen. It actually
had a bit of thought in it.  The reason I "returned" it was because I
learned and worked it, and hit a loss on like the 2nd or 3rd round.
2nd I think.

I know I'm famous as the "thread breaker" of seeing and doing that kind of
thing (just look at how many threads my name is on the last post).

But after all is said and done, there really is a "feel". A sense of if a method
has some mojo, or just "cut and ran".

Hi mogul397,

Slam Betting is just the "Steiger Strategy"... I wrote about that one earlier.
(Been around for ages that one!)
Hope you get your refund Ok - but I believe you could have downloaded the 'steiger strategy' method off of google in any case and saved yourself the hassle.
BTW, I'm not in any way surprised it did not work out for you.
Best of luck.

A.