Deja Vu?

[mogul397]

Hi mogul397,

Slam Betting is just the "Steiger Strategy"... I wrote about that one earlier.
(Been around for ages that one!)
Hope you get your refund Ok - but I believe you could have downloaded the 'steiger strategy' method off of google in any case and saved yourself the hassle.
BTW, I'm not in any way surprised it did not work out for you.
Best of luck.

A.

I sent the order number and am getting the refund.  If you missed it, I went
through a period in my life where I used to order systems and return them
for a refund so quick they crossed in the mail. And was finally told to not
order any more.

They said the refund was authorized.

I have seen (and have in a folder) may of silverthorns methods. Sometimes I can
find them. OR not.  This one looked interesting and I even emailed something about
it not just being another parlay thing. But no good response.  General reply.

[atlantis]

I sent the order number and am getting the refund.  If you missed it, I went
through a period in my life where I used to order systems and return them
for a refund so quick they crossed in the mail. And was finally told to not
order any more.

They said the refund was authorized.

Yes - I remember you said that now....
Still - despite what they said in their reply about a refund being authorised.... I also claimed a refund in exact same way for one of their systems and got that "authorised" email. I waited - Nothing happened which was kinda what I expected... Had to open a dispute with PayPal before I got a full ChargeBack.
Hope you do get refunded - but just be aware you may have to take it to next level to get your money back!

A.

[atlantis]

Silverthorne and Gambler's Bookcase have announced:

This is the First Release of Six-Bet Betting â€" the System of Millionaires!

link:://:.gamblersbookcase.com/SixBetBetting/

Here are some testimonials written about it:

Players Using This System Are Winning Millions of Dollars!

Players using Six-Bet Betting are making large sums of money very quickly.


Mike S. from San Mateo, California, wrote â€"

“The first time I ever played baccarat was helping you test your system.  From now on I will exclusively play baccarat.

“I am currently playing mini-baccarat in three different online casinos.  My routine is to play two days in each casino then make a withdrawal.  This way I receive a check every two days for my winnings.

“Just checked my records.  I am now up $93,600.  Hurray!”


Gary B., who lives in Sioux City, Iowa, is retired and needed a little more than another hobby â€"

“I am retired and I was looking for something interesting and profitable.  I’ve got it with the Six-Betting System!

“I play in a local casino two days a week and clear from $3,200 to $3750 a day.  This is one great system.  Thanks.”


Nath R. resides in Arlington Heights, Illinois.  Like many other players, he has been successful using the Six-Bet Betting System to play a different game â€"

“You have done a great job with the Six-Bet Betting System.  I have been using it to play roulette.  It works very well at this game too.

“I am now using $25 bets online and winning $1,084 an hour.  Ten hours a week puts me in the ten grand a week club!

“Many thanks for an outstanding system!”


Lee L. is a small bettor.  However, that has not kept him from moving up to the big time using the Six-Bet Betting System â€"

“I am a small bettor.  However, I am making a lot of money with the Six-Bet Betting System.  I am now playing with a total bankroll of just $1,400 and I am winning $1,494 an hour.

“This is the best low-money, high-win system ever!”

Silverthorne credits the system as being originated by "Andrew Devereau" and describes in detail how it was devised...

BUT WAIT A MINUTE!!

The term déjà vu is French and means, literally, "already seen." Those who have experienced the feeling describe it as an overwhelming sense of familiarity with something that shouldn't be familiar at all.
Say, for example, you are travelling to England for the first time. You are touring a cathedral, and suddenly it seems as if you have been in that very spot before. Or maybe you are having dinner with a group of friends, discussing some current political topic, and you have the feeling that you've already experienced this very thing -- same friends, same dinner, same topic.

Well now, the very same thing happened to me as I read through all of this and I had a sudden flashback to 2015:

link:://:.gamblersbookcase.com/StrikerBetting/

Players Using This System Are Winning Millions of Dollars!

Players using Striker Betting are making large sums of money very quickly.

Mike S. from San Mateo, California, wrote â€"

“The first time I ever played baccarat was helping you test your system.  From now on I will exclusively play baccarat.

“I am currently playing mini-baccarat in three different online casinos.  My routine is to play two days in each casino then make a withdrawal.  This way I receive a check every two days for my winnings.

“Just checked my records.  I am now up $93,600.  Hurray!”


Gary B., who lives in Sioux City, Iowa, is retired and needed a little more than another hobby â€"

“I am retired and I was looking for something interesting and profitable.  I’ve got it with the Striker Betting System!

“I play in a local casino two days a week and clear from $3,200 to $3750 a day.  This is one great system.  Thanks.”


Nath R. resides in Arlington Heights, Illinois.  Like many other players, he has been successful using the Striker Betting System to play a different game â€"

“You have done a great job with the Striker Baccarat System.  I have been using it to play roulette.  It works very well at this game too.

“I am now using $25 bets online and winning $1,084 an hour.  Ten hours a week puts me in the ten grand a week club!

“Many thanks for an outstanding system!”

Lee L. is a small bettor.  However, that has not kept him from moving up to the big time using the Striker Betting System â€"

“I am a small bettor.  However, I am making a lot of money with the Striker Betting System.  I am now playing with a total bankroll of just $1,400 and I am winning $1,494 an hour.

“This is the best low-money, high-win system ever!”

Silverthorne credits the system as being originated by a "George Stearn" a year or two ago!!!

Well, just perhaps (perhaps, mind...) he changed his name by deed poll to Andrew Devereau then?!

But after all that I will leave it to readers to decide whether these inventors or indeed the reviewers are real people or not.
I know what I think.

Take care and don't get fooled by them,
A.

[dimsun]

This I found accidently by google, so I download:

The Guderian Progression
© 2014 Russell Hunter All Rights Reserved
All rights reserved. Except for brief passages used in legitimate reviews, no parts of
this book may be reproduced or utilized in any form or by any means, electronic or
mechanical, without the written permission of the publisher.
Address all inquiries to the publisher:
Russell Hunter Publishing, Inc.
5901-J Wyoming NE, Suite 305
United States of America

When download Silverthorne show in link.  Silly people.

[atlantis]

Silverthorne has unveiled another strategy:

THE STARK STRATEGY

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=vIGrBDVvvbU

link:://:.gamblersbookcase.com/StarkStrategy/

Do not be fooled!! This is just a reboot of:

THE POWER GAMBLING STRATEGY from 2011:

link:://:.silverthornepublications.net/PowerGamblingStrategy/

Just compare the two sites and you will easily see it is the same system!

Take care,
A.

[atlantis]

NEW for roulette is "The Wells Formula"

According to Silverthorne:

Charles Wells Broke the Bank in Monte Carlo an Astonishing 12 Times in 1891! Yet His System Remained a Secret Until Now!
Amazingly, the Wells Formula Is Just as Powerful Now as It Was 125 Years Ago!

Wells Formula video:
link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=znSSDpXMhX0

link:://:.gamblersbookcase.com/WellsFormula/

But wait...!  I'm getting that "deja vu" moment yet again.
This all turns out to be a REPEAT of their 2015 system "Dominator Roulette"

link:://:.gamblersbookcase.com/DominatorRoulette/

According to Silverthorne:

It uses an amazingly accurate bet placement formula developed by Andrew Devereau, one of the top roulette players in the world!

It’s method of bet sizing â€" determining the size of each wager â€" was developed by Greg Fletcher and is patterned after his highly successful stock trading model. (I've heard that one before, too!)

What is truly surprising (or maybe not) is that there is not even a MENTION of Mr Charles Wells - the geezer that broke the bank at Monte Carlo - in this one!!!  Yet is EXACTLY THE SAME system. Very curious, suspicious and remiss of them to promote a system claimed by different authors, don't you think?

I already KNOW what I think! 

Take care and don't be fooled by this one. (I see it is possible to download the earlier Dominator Roulette book free after a web search...)

A.   

[atlantis]

Apparently never released before and brand new from Silverthorne right now is:

link:://:.jackpotroulettesystem.com/

and it comes also with this statement/slogan at the top of the page:

"$100 Wins $15,713 Every Three Hours!"

Haha - of course all very believable - well it must be true if he says so! (mustn't it?)

"A pair of nerdy high school students, working with a rogue math professor, have developed Jackpot Roulette â€" the only system to deliver Jackpot-like winnings making small bets!"

Silverthorne tells us a story with pages and pages of background info on how these clever young students with their gifted teacher work together and discover this amazing moneyspinner.

EXCEPT - WAIT!!!!

I have a strange "deja vu" feeling I have seen this before...

Oh YES! From 2015 we have:

link:://:.gamblersbookcase.com/Triple-WinRoulette/

It is exactly the same system!
No mention here AT ALL of the high school nerds and the wiz professor this time - not even a sentence about them - yet it is the same alright.

If you want to be bothered to read then you can type in google search box:

triple win roulette pdf

Have a nice day
Take care and don't be fooled!

A.

[Steve]

You know youre helping them scam people by posting links everywhere...

[atlantis]

You know youre helping them scam people by posting links everywhere...

Hi Steve,
Well of course you know that was not my intention - far from it! That is the last thing I want to happen.
But thanks for your comment and quite possibly you are correct on that point - so in future postings (that is, if members still wish me to continue to update this topic regularly and keep them in the loop about their activities and machinations) I will take up your thought and from now on omit any links to their sites if it is the case that it could help prevent their scams from succeeding by ensnaring the unwary.  If it accomplishes that even in a small way, then at least it is a positive step in the right direction.

Regards,
A.

[caspian]

Personally I am a fan of Silverthorn systems 

I enjoy reading the marketing hype for them but take it with a large pinch of salt of course!

I have found quite a few of their methods profitable for short term play and they are well written and well presented for the most part.

As has been pointed out already nobody needs to pay for them as a Google search will reveal all.

Finally I must thank member Atlantis for this entertaining thread.

[Steve]

Atlantis, stop posting links to scams. Again you ate helping them.

[atlantis]

Atlantis, stop posting links to scams. Again you ate helping them.

Hi Steve,
Message received and understood. I remember now that I agreed I would not be posting the links to his pages any more - so apologies on that count...

Anyway, just letting members know that the new "Fischer Roulette Strategy" just released by gamblers bookcase is just a repackage of their 2014 method "The Super Fibonacci System" which can be downloaded free if you care to search for it...

A.

[tuddilue]

Hi Steve,
Message received and understood. I remember now that I agreed I would not be posting the links to his pages any more - so apologies on that count...

Anyway, just letting members know that the new "Fischer Roulette Strategy" just released by gamblers bookcase is just a repackage of their 2014 method "The Super Fibonacci System" which can be downloaded free if you care to search for it...

A.

Yes Silverthorne is really good with words. It's always sounds that he has the holy grail but as always he just want to scam people.

But I enjoy reading your posts and its interesting that he reuses his old systems.

One aspect of you adding these posts is that new people in roulette sees them and will think twice before buying them or look elsewhere for the strategies. They usually are in other places...

I agree that you should not add the links to there pages but continue writing about them. That I think is a good thing!

- Tuddilue

[atlantis]

Hi Tuddilue,

Yes it's interesting how they promote the same products under different names with different origins and backstory.

Why, even today they released a video of a new one: Roulette 618 strategy!

I checked and it is a repeat of their pre-existing: RouletteFormulaCBW (lines system)

Don't get fooled!

Take care,
A.

[atlantis]

Hi Guys,

Gamblers bookcase have a new video and page up for their latest unstoppable roulette system:

"The RTM Strategy" (reversion to mean)

When I read the ad I again experienced that strange but now familiar sensation of deja-vu!

This is none other than their "Monte Carlo Multiplier" strategy from 2015!!!!!

The one where they bet on BOTH outcomes of a spin eg RED and BLACK together!

I think I already covered that one earlier - but why on earth they don't use the more safer and sensible practice of "difference" betting is anybody's guess. *!?

Also, I think they are gearing up early to grab extra Christmas sales this year

Don't get fooled.

Take care,
A.