Deja Vu?

[RouletteGhost]

Hi has anybody had any dealings with Robert Reno, he makes some mighty claims on his website :.ProGamblingSystems.com

He advertises betting both player and banker at the same time and getting rich

Scam

[joiner29]

Thanks

[BlackCat]

I'm new to this, so thanks for sharing!

[atlantis]

Today they released:
"Counter Strike Blackjack"

It is nothing new.

Is just the same as the previously released:
"Tracker Blackjack

Take care and don't get fooled!

A.

[DoctorSudoku]

I'm new to this, so thanks for sharing!

Six posts as of Friday morning and you are already in "moderated" status !

That's a record for a newbie -- even  Gilius-Falkor took longer than that to be placed in that status !

[RouletteGhost]

Six posts as of Friday morning and you are already in "moderated" status !

That's a record for a newbie -- even  Gilius-Falkor took longer than that to be placed in that status !

Some people have toooooo much time on their hands and get their jollies off forums and different aliases.

[atlantis]

Just out today - a NEW video on their channel and site for:

"The Burns System"

Secretive Gambler Tommy Burns
Reveals the Most Powerful System
Ever Developed for Roulette!

Except it isn't new. That's HOGWASH.

Was previously released as:

Slam Betting
The Steiger Strategy
Tracker Roulette

and maybe some other i forget...

Anyhow search for: tracker roulette
You can read it online.

Take care and don't get fooled,

A.

[atlantis]

Today I received a message about a NEW system from them...

"The Frost Formula"

which according to them: "Easily Beats The Games of Roulette, Craps, Baccarat, Mini-Baccarat, Sic Bo as Well as Blackjack!"

Never lose at gambling again!
Professional Player’s Secret Strategy Revealed After Being “Locked Up” For Nineteen Years!

Frank Frost has been beating the casinos consistently for Twenty-Five years.

Now he has agreed to share his strategy with a few other players!

If you would like to win $500 every thirty minutes you play then this is the system for you!

“The Frost Formula is the Easiest and Most Reliable Way Ever Created to Win $10,000 a Week!"

Now 'Someone' is not being straight here - for there is another system existing from 2011 called:

"The Stearn Strategy" which has more or less the exact same blurb and sales copy on its site!!

Even the several "testimonials" are EXACTLY THE SAME too! For example -

"The Frost Formula is the best gambling system I have ever used. I have been using it for over two years and it has never let me down.

"It is easy to use and produces very consistent winnings. I highly recommend it to anyone who wants a predictable and reliable way of winning at gambling."

Stan S. â€" Akron, Ohio

"The Stearn Strategy is the best gambling system I have ever used. I have been using it for over two years and it has never let me down.

"It is easy to use and produces very consistent winnings. I highly recommend it to anyone who wants a predictable and reliable way of winning at gambling."

Stan S. â€" Akron, Ohio

They cannot BOTH be right, can they? Either it was invented by George Stearn or Frank Frost - which is it?

Anyhow you can read the Stearn Strategy pdf for free by doing a search online...
I see someone did a youtube vid test of the Stearn progression as well - it looks to have failed miserably on more than one occasion...

Take care and don't get fooled!
A.

[DoctorSudoku]

which according to them: "Easily Beats The Games of Roulette, Craps, Baccarat, Mini-Baccarat, Sic Bo as Well as Blackjack!"

I can understand that maybe somebody can somehow come up with a bet selection strategy (and an attendant progression) that can beat roulette, craps, baccarat, and sic bo, since they all have EC betting opportunities and fairly long streaks as common factors to all of them (craps has pass versus don't pass and sic bo has big vs small and even vs odd as EC options).

But when that person claims that that same strategy can beat blackjack also, then that raises red flags instantly (blackjack does not offer any comparable EC betting options nor does it produce streaks of any significant length like the above-listed games).

[atlantis]

Today Gambler's Bookcase released a new video on their channel and a site for:

"Take Down Roulette"

“Turn Just $6 Into $25,000 in Only 17 Hours!  We Will Send You a 100% Proven Plan You Can Use to Do This With Absolute Certainty of Success!”

Beware - this is however the same as:

"The Mini-Max Roulette Strategy"

from Silverthorne in 2010.
(It's an EC bet with a hedge on the zero)

You can google mini-max roulette pdf and find it online to read though! 

Take care and don't get fooled.

A.

[atlantis]

Another one today:

"Super-Max Baccarat"

This is just a rebrand of their previously titled:

"Ultimate Baccarat"

aka:

"Strategic Baccarat"

Take care and don't be fooled!

A.

[atlantis]

Gambler's Bookcase channel on youtube never give up!!!

Another release today:

"THE SAVAGE STRATEGY"

Turns out to be not new at all. Has been previously offered as:

"ROULETTE ATTACK STRATEGY" from Silverthorne in 2011.

Take care and don't be fooled!

A.

[DoctorSudoku]

Gambler's Bookcase channel on youtube never give up!!!

Another release today:

"THE SAVAGE STRATEGY"

Turns out to be not new at all. Has been previously offered as:

"ROULETTE ATTACK STRATEGY" from Silverthorne in 2011.

Take care and don't be fooled!

A.

Thanks for another new notification / warning.

Over the years, this guy has  published well over a dozen different systems spanning the four major table games (craps, blackjack, baccarat, and roulette).

I am just curious how do you know that every time this scammer comes out with another supposedly brand new system, that it is indeed a reincarnation of a previously published system?

You must have an extraordinarily good memory to do that !

[atlantis]

Over the years, this guy has  published well over a dozen different systems spanning the four major table games (craps, blackjack, baccarat, and roulette).

I am just curious how do you know that every time this scammer comes out with another supposedly brand new system, that it is indeed a reincarnation of a previously published system?

Hi Doctorsudoku,

Firstly, I am subscribed to their youtube channel - which means I always get a Windows alert + an email as soon as any new release is posted with a link to their demo vid of the system. Also they make a new site page for each and every one of their new systems which you can then compare against their other older pages.

Steve (forum site owner) has advised me not to give the guy any further publicity than absolutely necessary by revealing the URL's to the sites as well in my notification/warning posts, but when you compare them it is obvious it is the same method under a different name. For one thing, the sales blurb is very much the same and the testimonials and claims are the same - it is usually just the imaginative and fictive backstory to the origination and invention of the system only that varies with each incarnation.

Its not so much a case of having a good memory at all - I can simply enter a phrase or testimonial from the purportedly new site into google search - and it will instantly find one or two previous systems they released that contain the same phrase! I then visit and examine and compare those to confirm that it is indeed without a shadow of a doubt the very same system.
The reason this works is that they can't be bothered to alter the main body of text, claims, testimonials or page footers very much at all - they just seem to do a quick job on it by changing just the name, graphics and backstory only instead of taking the trouble to write a completely new page from scratch! If they did do that it would be much, much harder to identify it as an existing system - but either they don't have the time or inclination to care or or are not in the slightest bit worried about it affecting their sales...
Personally, I think it very negligent and remiss of them to do this. It  simply reveals and exposes their blatant, disreputable, underhand tactics to try and trick or deceive ppl into thinking it a new product; which is not very clever move; each time they persist in doing it simply adds to the bad and negative publicity they already have received - hence my ongoing warnings to this end.

Regards,
A.

[atlantis]

Today they released a new video and site for:

"D F Formula Betting"

This is the same as the previously existing:

"T-Betting System"


Take care and don't get fooled.

Regards,
A.