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Vaddis Holy Grail

Started by RFMAXX, Aug 20, 03:35 AM 2015

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Elite

i have put some thougts on MODI system in below thead,
almost i hope i decoded.one 1% missing, hope any one of you can better  check that and give his thoughts...

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20356.new#new

stringbeanpc

Quote from: Proofreaders2000 on Jan 05, 04:05 PM 2019
I think you're on to something with the neighbors-when three
contiguous neighbors have two hits bet all three for a third hit.

Ex: 0,32,15 (European wheel)-0 hits, then 15
(whichever set of three hits then bet all three for 12 spins.

Proofreaders2000, thanks for the idea.
After reviewing recent live spins from a b&m casino single 0 wheel, multiple wins with only one loss

Good results for this session but more testing required

18
36
21
18
14
29   start betting on 22,18,29
23
2
36   start betting on 27,13,36 or 13,36,11 or 27,13,36.11
13
14
11   win 27,13,36 or 13,36,11 or 27,13,36.11
33
31
0
1   
29   win 22,18,29
20   start betting 33,01,20 or 01,20,14 or 33,01,20,14
-- dealer change
25
3
29   
22   start betting on 22,18,29 again
5
4
0
18   win 22,18,29
18
29    start betting 22,18,29 or 18,29,07 or 22,18,29,07
27
24   lose 33,01,20
2
21   start betting on 04,21,02 or 21,02,25 or 04,21,02,25
31
13
23
32
22    win 22,18,29
16
21   win 04,21,02
21
14
20   start betting on 20,14,31 or 01,20,14 or 01,20,14,31
17
20   win 20,14,31
24
8
0
32   start betting on 26,0,32 or 0,32,15 or 26,0,32,15
31
15   win 0,32,15
-- dealer change
15
6
32
35
6
33
31
9
4
28

Elite

Quote from: Bigbroben on Jan 04, 11:52 PM 2019
There is this method on the web where, with a formula, it calculates the ''volatility'' of last 4 nrs to predict the next one.  I don't know how reliable it is ( I suppose it is pink slime) but hey, why not?

I did not spend time on it, but here, attached, in case someone was interested.  Of course, it is not Vaddi, for this one here needs a computer for sure to calculate!

Below code for this  calcluation,

public int getOnePredictedNumber(List<Integer> inputNumbersArayInt) {
          if(inputNumbersArayInt.size()<5) {
          return  99;
          }else {
             int j=0;
             final int[] testnum= {0,0,0,0};
              for (int i = inputNumbersArayInt.size()-1; i >=inputNumbersArayInt.size()-4; i--) {
                
                 if(inputNumbersArayInt.get(i).equals(0)) {
                    testnum[j]=1;
                 }else {
                     
                    testnum[j]=inputNumbersArayInt.get(i);
                 }
                j++;
            }
              double f= (testnum[0]*(testnum[1]+testnum[2]))/(testnum[3]+1);
              if (f >0 && f<=36) {
                 return (int) Math.round(f);
              }else {
                
                 double ff= (f-(testnum[3]*testnum[3]))/(testnum[1]+testnum[2]);
                 return (int) Math.round(ff);
              }
          }
          
          
       }

stringbeanpc

Quote from: Elite on Jan 06, 03:42 AM 2019
i have put some thougts on MODI system in below thead,
almost i hope i decoded.one 1% missing, hope any one of you can better  check that and give his thoughts...
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20356.new#new

Elite, that is a good idea putting the numbers into groups
Perhaps when there is no repeat within 8 spins, determine the hot group(s) and play these groups.
It may require playing from eight to ten numbers.

Group1 RLO 01,03,05,07,09
Group2 BLE 02,04,06,08,10
Group3 RLE 12,14,16,18
Group4 BLO 11,13,15,17,
Group5 RHO 19,21,23,25,27
Group6 BHE 20,22,24,26,28
Group7 RHE 30,32,34,36
Group8 BHO 29,31,33,35

look at this test session from a live single 0 wheel

Number  Group
18   3
36   7
21   5
18   3   win

14   3
29   8
23   5
2   2
36   7
13   4
14   3   win

11   4
33   8
31   8
0   n/a
1   1
29   8
20   6
-- dealer change
25   5   lose
groups present 1, 4,5,6 and 8(three times)
groups missing 2, 3, 7

3   1
29   8
22   6
5   1
4   2
0   n/a
18   3
18   3   win

29   8
27   5
24   6
2   2
21   5
31   8
13   4
23   5   lose
groups present 2,4,5(three times),6,8(twice)
groups missing 1,3,7

32   7
22   6
16   3
21   5
21   5   win

14   3
20   6
17   4
20   6   win

24   6
8   2
0   n/a
32   7
31   8
15   4
-- dealer change
15   4   win

6   2
32   7
35   8
6   2   win

33   8
31   8
9   1
4   2
28   6   end of session

Irish88

I also posted in this in the MODI thread. In the original thread, notice the poster was only paying attention to the four number groups. He ignored the five number groups. Vaddi did say that the person who posted MODI had an understanding of how numbers connect to each other even thou he didn't know what MODI was.

Maybe if one of the 4 number groups hit twice within 8 spins play those for 8 spins? I do think there is something to MODI. If you observe tables enough, the number groups DO cluster together very often. It's uncanny to be honest. Even the five number groupings. But he seems to be focusing on just the 4 number groups.

nichedelico

Hello everyone guys,
I've always read the forum but never reply.
(Sorry for my english it's not my native language)
I don't know how to test a system automatically but only manually. So i leave here my idea of Vaddy, )but you know manually it's difficult to know if it's valid or not ) my goal every time (in fun mode) it's to take a 50 euro balance to the maximum with 10 cent in rng for a faster test and i play like this: 1 stage like always 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8. After the first stage i take the 2nd dozen as my reference, and playing only the pairs of the numbers hit on the 2nd dozen (with one chip on double and half on the pairs, so if i have a number on the center column, one chip on the number an two on the spilts for cover the pairs, if it's on the top or bottom column, two chip on double and one on pairs = 4 chips total per numbers only in the second dozen )  and continue at the same time to add the last number hit and cancel the last one (but not the numbers in the dozen! I leave them here for all the session). What do you think?
Thank you
Nico

ignatus

....hi everyone, now? i must say,hmm? what is this really about? you try to solve a "riddle" ..that is "the holy grail" by posting random ideas? that haven't been tested by yourself enough? hmmm..i'd say, stop it now. focus on your own "game" or "system"....IF you find something that "works" pretty good .. you can work on that/post it *in your own thread* etc? ...because? you'll never solve this "riddle",....this way.

Thank you :)
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nichedelico

Quote from: ignatus on Jan 06, 08:03 AM 2019
....hi everyone, now? i must say,hmm? what is this really about? you try to solve a "riddle" ..that is "the holy grail" by posting random ideas? that haven't been tested by yourself enough? hmmm..i'd say, stop it now. focus on your own "game" or "system"....IF you find something that "works" pretty good .. you can work on that/post it *in your own thread* etc? ...because? you'll never solve this "riddle",....this way.

Thank you :)


Ok, sorry for posting here! Thank you

Bigbroben

Quote from: ignatus on Jan 06, 08:03 AM 2019
....hi everyone, now? i must say,hmm? what is this really about? you try to solve a "riddle" ..that is "the holy grail" by posting random ideas? that haven't been tested by yourself enough? hmmm..i'd say, stop it now. focus on your own "game" or "system"....IF you find something that "works" pretty good .. you can work on that/post it *in your own thread* etc? ...because? you'll never solve this "riddle",....this way.

Thank you :)

Ignatus, wtf?

We are having fun, just let us do it, like we let you post ideas that are not tested enough.

This is a thread that is very interesting, with people positively participating.

Nichedelico, I encourage you to speak more often!
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Irish88

Nico,

Don't be afraid to share ideas. It was a very interesting post and can be looked into. That's what this board is all about. Sharing ideas. Outside the box thinking. Nothing wrong with that.

nichedelico

Ok thank you guys  :) i don't want to cause any trouble  ;D

Elite

Quote from: stringbeanpc on Jan 06, 05:45 AM 2019
Elite, that is a good idea putting the numbers into groups
Perhaps when there is no repeat within 8 spins, determine the hot group(s) and play these groups.
It may require playing from eight to ten numbers.

Group1 RLO 01,03,05,07,09
Group2 BLE 02,04,06,08,10
Group3 RLE 12,14,16,18
Group4 BLO 11,13,15,17,
Group5 RHO 19,21,23,25,27
Group6 BHE 20,22,24,26,28
Group7 RHE 30,32,34,36
Group8 BHO 29,31,33,35

look at this test session from a live single 0 wheel

Number  Group
18   3
36   7
21   5
18   3   win

14   3
29   8
23   5
2   2
36   7
13   4
14   3   win

11   4
33   8
31   8
0   n/a
1   1
29   8
20   6
-- dealer change
25   5   lose
groups present 1, 4,5,6 and 8(three times)
groups missing 2, 3, 7

3   1
29   8
22   6
5   1
4   2
0   n/a
18   3
18   3   win

29   8
27   5
24   6
2   2
21   5
31   8
13   4
23   5   lose
groups present 2,4,5(three times),6,8(twice)
groups missing 1,3,7

32   7
22   6
16   3
21   5
21   5   win

14   3
20   6
17   4
20   6   win

24   6
8   2
0   n/a
32   7
31   8
15   4
-- dealer change
15   4   win

6   2
32   7
35   8
6   2   win

33   8
31   8
9   1
4   2
28   6   end of session

thanks  man for this ,,, further, i think its a way of tracking Deler mind, either  he is on low or  high thnking etc, i guess , modi was in good Mood  when he discovered this trick :)

Elite

Modi, method, sergio,  seqence pairing method, and vaadi method, of latest 8 spin repeats, all somehow relate with dealer mind, once know where he want hit  , advantage is there, that is holy grail, as i see online roulette dealers are almmost perfect, in spoting, sector, why not., they are  doing this on same wheel many years and they have to save their job, so no surprize,law of third is really a key but not master key. Play like dealer mind, can give advantage,
@ProffRead, right, neigbours should b from wheel, if dealer lastest spins going near by any specific number, but if game going random, then pairing from table, i guess is better

Elite

just another thought, even casino know law of third somehow , advantages for players, they cannot get rid of this, because random world should follow random probabilty, if any roulette withdrawing numbers, uniquely , from past 50 spins, means, something wrong with that wheel, its not random and can come under  casino monitoring agencies,
as i know for any RNG to pass from authorities, it shouid pass law of third to be eligble for public, one thought,

ozon

Elite had pretty good suggestions to play 4numbers grups.
I've had several good sessions lately, although I think it's a rather short run.
We only play 1 to a dozen three groups
1-2-3-4
5-6-7-8
9-10-11-12
After dropping a number from a given group, we play this group for 4 spins. If we have a hit, we play through the next 4 spins
Sometimes we will play 4 numbers sometimes 8, and sometimes 12 numbers for a moment.

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