Vaddis Holy Grail

[Proofreaders2000]

Another idea to mull over....
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Procedure: Note the two newest column outcomes.

Bet the previous column single with four ahead and four behind once.

Repeat steps until in profit.
*If zero shows, bet 33, 34, 35, 36, 0 (or 0/00), 1, 2, 3, 4 once.

Example: 23, 4 (newest spin-value)-two different columns

Bet 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27:    1.) 36(x)-9

Bet 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9:    2.) 15(x)-9
same column bet previously hit column single

Bet 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8....

Bankroll suggestion: 108 total units

[Proofreaders2000]

Live European Wheels only

[Proofreaders2000]

The above didn't work, but this
upcoming idea imo looks good (for the new year) 
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-----*Last Three Non-Zero Outcomes System*-----

Procedure: Note the newest three non-zero outcomes.  Bet
those three with one higher and lower single respectively on each. 

Repeat steps with the newest three outcomes until in profit.

Example: 23, 9, 17 (newest spin-value)

Bet 22, 23, 24:  8, 9, 10:  16, 17, 18:    1.) 25(x)-9

[last three outcomes: 9, 17, 25 (newest spin-value)]

Bet 8, 9, 10:  16, 17, 18:  24, 25, 26:    2.)  0(x)-9

(in case of zero showing, re-bet the last bet)

Bankroll suggestion: 150 total units

[Proofreaders2000]

Paper Test: BetPhoenix European Wheel-
Thursday, January 7,2022 @ 7:56pm CST USA

...35, 14, 34 (newest spin-value)

*overlapping bets are allowed

Bet 34, 35, 36:  13, 14, 15:  33, 34, 35:    1.) 7(x)-9

Bet 13, 14, 15:  33, 34, 35:   6, 7, 8:    2.) 27(x)-9

Bet 33, 34, 35:  6, 7, 8:  26, 27, 28:    3.) 8(win)+27
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[Proofreaders2000]

Paper Test: BetPhoenix American Wheel-
Saturday, January 8,2022 @ 3:03pm CST USA

...34, 5, 30 (newest spin-value)

Bet 33, 34, 35, 4, 5, 6, 29, 30, 31:    1.) 2(x)-9

Bet 4, 5, 6, 29, 30, 31, 1, 2, 3:    2.) 9(x)-9

Bet 29, 30, 31, 1, 2, 3, 8, 9, 10:    3.) 1(win)+27
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Paper Test: BetPhoenix European Wheel-
Saturday, January 8,2022 @ 3:06pm CST USA

...24, 8, 19 (newest spin-value)

Bet 23, 24, 25, 7, 8, 9, 18, 19, 20:    1.) 15(x)-9

Bet 7, 8, 9, 18, 19, 20, 14, 15, 16:    2.) 5(x)-9

Bet 18, 19, 20, 14, 15, 16, 4, 5, 6:    3.) 10(x)-9

Bet 14, 15, 16, 4, 5, 6, 9, 10, 11:    4.) 11(win)+27

Bet 4, 5, 6, 9, 10, 11, 10, 11, 12:    5.) 2(x)-9

Bet 9, 10, 11, 10, 11, 12, 1, 2, 3:    6.) 6(x)-9

Bet 10, 11, 12, 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7:    7.) 15(x)-9

Bet 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 14, 15, 16:    8.) 29(x)-9

Bet 5, 6, 7, 14, 15, 16, 28, 29, 30:    9.) 7(win)+27

Bet 14, 15, 16, 28, 29, 30, 6, 7, 8:    10.) 8(win)+27
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[Proofreaders2000]

Paper Test: BetPhoenix American Wheel-
Saturday, January 8,2022 @ 3:59pm CST USA

...28, 7, 16 (newest spin-value)

Bet 27, 28, 29, 6, 7, 8, 15, 16, 17:    1.) 7(win)+27
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Paper Test: BetPhoenix European Wheel-
Saturday, Jaunary 8,2022 @ 4:01pm CST USA

...16, 0, 0, 13, 9 (newest spin-value)

Bet 15, 16, 17, 12, 13, 14, 8, 9, 10:    1.) 27(x)-9

Bet 12, 13, 14, 8, 9, 10, 26, 27, 28:    2.) 33(x)-9

Bet 8, 9, 10, 26, 27, 28, 32, 33, 34:    3.) 34(win)+27
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Paper Test: BetPhoenix American Wheel-
Saturday, Jaunary 8,2022 @ 4:06pm CST USA

...24, 22, 8, 00 (newest spin-value)

Bet 23, 24, 25, 21, 22, 23, 7, 8, 9:    1.) 21(win)+27

[Proofreaders2000]

Paper Test: BetPhoenix European Wheel-
Saturday, January 8,2022 @ 4:25pm CST USA

...18, 2, 19 (newest spin-value)

Bet 17, 18, 19, 1, 2, 3, 18, 19, 20:    1.) 27(x)-9

Bet 1, 2, 3, 18, 19, 20, 26, 27, 28:    2.) 29(x)-9

Bet 18, 19, 20, 26, 27, 28, 28, 29, 30:    3.) 23(x)-9

Bet 26, 27, 28, 28, 29, 30, 22, 23, 24:    4.) 5(x)-9

Bet 28, 29, 30, 22, 23, 24, 4, 5, 6:    5.) 30(win)+27

Bet 22, 23, 24, 4, 5, 6, 29, 30, 31:    6.) 34(x)-9

Bet 4, 5, 6, 29, 30, 31, 33, 34, 35:    7.) 33(win)+27
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[Proofreaders2000]

Paper Test: Jackpot Wheel European Live-
Saturday, January 8,2022 @ 7:06pm CST USA

...31, 29, 6 (newest spin-value)

Bet 30, 31, 32, 28, 29, 30, 5, 6, 7:    1.) 16(x)-9

Bet 28, 29, 30, 5, 6, 7, 15, 16, 17:    2.) 33(x)-9

Bet 5, 6, 7, 15, 16, 17, 32, 33, 34:    3.) 33(win)+27
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Bonus Test: Random.Org
Min=0: Max=37 (American Wheel)

Saturday, January 8,2022 @ 7:10pm CST USA

...13, 6, 14 (newest spin-value)

Bet 12, 13, 14, 5, 6, 7, 13, 14, 15:    1.) 28(x)-9

Bet 5, 6, 7, 13, 14, 15, 27, 28, 29:    2.) 16(x)-9

Bet 13, 14, 15, 27, 28, 29, 15, 16, 17:    3.) 35(x)-9

Bet 27, 28, 29, 15, 16, 17, 34, 35, 36:    4.) 15(win)+27

Bet 15, 16, 17, 34, 35, 36, 14, 15, 16:    5.) 17(win)+27
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[moreno]

This is first post from Vaddi and he writes please look , maybe can help:

He writes:
This is my first post in this forum. And I hope that I can provide some
value. :-)

First, I would like to request the development of a script for RSS Pro.

Here we go ...

How long would it take to develop a script based on the following?
And how much would it cost?

You login to a Playtech casino and you use the program to automatically
spin the roulette wheel a specific number of times at high speed. Let's
say 24 times.

The following numbers come up:

2 (3 times), 1, 5, 36, 9 (2 times), 17, 25 (3 times), 6, 11, 13 (4 times),
8, 23 (5 times).

The program then generates a statistics table with sortable headings:

Ascending/      Ascending/
Descending)    Descending)

#0 - 36          Occurrences

0                    0
1                    1
2                    3
3                    0
4                    0
5                    1
6                    1
7                    0
8                    1
9                    2
10                  0
11                  1
12                  0
13                  4
14                  0
15                  0
16                  0
17                  1
18                  0
19                  0
20                  0
21                  0
22                  0
23                  5
24                  0
25                  3
26                  0
27                  0
28                  0
29                  0
30                  0
31                  0
32                  0
33                  0
34                  0
35                  0
36                  1

The program should allow you to input any number of spins you want
to generate.

In addition to spinning the wheel automatically, the program will also allow
the manual input of numbers.

I look forward to receiving your expert advice.

Vaddi
Vaddi@Webbcliff

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Another Vaddi's Post that was earlier in that thread, this is right after the system was brought to attention and Printer asked how it was played.
Hi ,Here's how I tested at Dublinbet:

Firstly, I ignored the landed numbers that were already on the marquee and simply watched the live spins.

I watch first live spin and then bet on that number. So if first number is #1, I place a bet on #1.If #1 misses, I bet on #1 again, plus the new number that just landed. So, you are now betting on two numbers.

a) You continue that pattern until you reach 9 numbers on the table.

When you reach 9 numbers on the table you will bet on all 9 numbers, but you will place 2 units on those 9 numbers. If you miss, then you add the new number to make 10 numbers to bet. And you double-up again. So, now you are betting on 10 numbers with 4 units placed on each of those ten numbers.
You can test adding one more number each time (at spin 9+) and doubling-up to see where it goes.

b) If you win at any stage, you start from scratch: Observe wheel, then bet on new number, then two numbers, then three numbers etc. ... as above.

[moreno]

Vaddi chim's in again...

Hi

I can only provide guidelines for you to figure out the modifications I've made, because I don't want the casinos being able to access the full details from any source. It's just too risky.

So, the next best thing is to present guidelines, which are ...

Use Webcliff's exact repeaters method of play, but replace his Martingale progression with your own custom progression.

As a guideline for progression construction: if you are using $1 units, your custom progression should ensure that your original bankroll is NOT reduced by more than $55 at any stage of your progression, whenever a repeat number hits.

Bet on ONLY 10 numbers even if your progression is long.

If you have figured it out correctly, you will be able to play non-stop and cream your profits off the top each time that you're ahead of the casino.
To make this method even more powerful:Start betting only when all the last 10 numbers landed are different from one another.Here's an interesting statistic that applies to this consistent winning repeater method:On average, there will be 6 numbers that will repeat at least twice within 37 spins.

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And Vaddi again...
Hi ,Seems you've figured out your own good progression. That's great!I've fine-tuned the method even further by betting on only 9 numbers instead of 10, which has led to creating the tightest most optimized low-risk progression I could ever create for the system.Also tried 8 numbers; not as accurate as 9 and 10 numbers though.10 numbers: impressive.9 numbers: even better.I'm playing live wheels and continue to get fantastic results! My RNDE manual script has made it a real pleasure playing the method. However, it would be interesting to use your automated script for a blitz test on RNG.I tried testing your script when I first downloaded it some time ago, but I was getting an error message which I think relates to currency and decimal configuration on my PC. Would need Silver to look into the matter.Happy winnings.

[moreno]

Here is what we noticed after reading this thread.      

   Vaddi started off playing sleepers till this came across the board. His method must have been close to the one he suggested we practice. i.e. Look for 14,15,16,17 Non-hits in a 37 spin cycle and play those number up to 2 times and if not hit track again. 
                                                                                                                                                         
Once this method suggested by 'Webbcliff', came across his lap it became a central piece to his "GRAIL" 

This method by 'Webbcliff' was also noted to be used in the "Spin 4 Profit" software...back in the day. 

Vaddi tried this system and then used a small progression. The first one he stated plainly   
and that was to go up the step process to 8 and then double on 9 and maybe number 10.I Don't remember. 

However he goes on to state that he created a progression where his bankroll would
not have been down by $55 dollars at any point when he got a hit on his number.
So basically we could say it never went over 90$. So with 36 on the first 8 numbers that leaves 54 dollars
to spread over the remaining progressions but I assumed he meant a rolling basis.
Do anyone have an idea of how he would accomplish this?

Also I noticed that he stated he tried to play with 8 numbers and 10 numbers but 9, was the sweet spot.
Did he change his mind? Or have we found the perfect repeater range with simply the IDEA of breaking even on a hit is the purpose?

Also I noticed that he stated he used his Number Data Extractor software to help him. I am guessing
he was calculating the number of numbers as this was what I gleam from his statements about 5 cycles.
As all I can readily gather is that all numbers generally come in around 5 cycles.

Although there must be other patterns akin to 185 spins. 

So we know he used triggers. it wasn't a rolling bet. At least he stated that was the best way.
In this post he suggests waiting for 10 numbers with no repeats in them to begin play.

Does any of this spark any idea's for anybody else?

[INTERCEPTOR]

10 numbers to bet with progression, man you are doomed.....

[moreno]

Sorry, this is post from Vaddy

[game over]

When a number has hit twice on 8 balls its hit rate is 2/8= 1/4 and when it hits on the 16 ball its hit rate is 2/16= 1/8.
Factors 4-8, those are the most frequent rep ranges between 8-ball and 16-ball.
This is one of the things that vaddis discovered in testing him.
There is more behind all this, just leaving my two cents for people to wake up, because they have been sleeping for years.

Hector

[nottophammer]

Didn't the magic number 8 get mentioned,
And why did pairings get thrown in