Vaddis Holy Grail

[DoctorSudoku]

No no no, all incorrect. Always stick to the magic number never deviate from it.

Are you referring to Vaddi's magic number of 8?  That may be the optimal number for his original method.

But proofreader's methods are deviating significantly from Vaddi's original method, so why should this (so-called) magic number still be 8? Any specific reason for your belief?

[denzie]

so why should this (so-called) magic number still be 8? Any specific reason for your belief?

Ah magic 8 .... Where did I hear that before ?
Although there's no grail with Vaddis

[DoctorSudoku]

Ah magic 8 .... Where did I hear that before ?
Although there's no grail with Vaddis

Denzie,
To be honest, Vaddi was one of the earliest promoters of the idea of going after repeats -- he was doing it well before you and Nottop arrived on the roulette scene advocating, roughly speaking, the same idea.

[Proofreaders2000]

Check this out guys

High/Low Staggered Quads

These splits go together: 1/4 & 33/36:  7/10 & 27/30

13/16 & 21/24:  3/6 & 31/34:  9/12 & 25/28

15/18 & 19/22
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Note the newest spin-value-is it in the first or third column?
(if it is in second column note the last first or third column outcome)

Bet that quad and its High/Low compliment once

If hit end session, if miss repeat steps with the new spin-value

Stop on a win or after four consecutive misses.

Example: #1 (newest spin-value)-1/4 & 33/36

Bet 1,2,4,5 & 32,33,35,36 once:           1.) 17(x)

*look at the last first or third column outcome: #1
(#17 and first column split 13/16)

Bet 13,14,16,17 & 20,21,23,24 once:    2.) 25(x)

Bet 25,26,28,29 & 8,9,11,12 once....

Bankroll suggestion: eight units per session

[romano0327]

Greetings to all, I am new on the forum but a long time roulette player, I have lots of respect towards you guys, I would like to be of help in your disscussions, by the way Proofreader's I am testing your aproach. Is it giving you good results?

[Proofreaders2000]

so far so good.  Still more testing needed

[Proofreaders2000]

Got some free time and wanted to present this idea

Track Odd numbers and Even spin-values separately
(zero counts as Even)

Qualifier: Track until you have at least eight
Odd spin-values and eight Even spin-values

After the Qualifier bet the last eight Odd or Even
numbers (depending if the last decision was Odd or Even)

End session if win, otherwise bet again Odd or
Even numbers (including the last decision outcome)

Stop on a win or after four consecutive misses.

Example: 21,5,13,7,14,9,35,11-Odd

Even: 2,32,8,0,4,18,22,30 (newest spin-value)

Since last decision was #30, bet the last 8 even numbers once

Bet 2,32,8,0,4,18,22,30:    1.) 29(x)

Bet 5,13,7,14,9,35,11,29....

[Proofreaders2000]

Older system that had a good hit-rate

Note the newest non-zero
spin-value.  Is it High/Low, Odd or Even?

If it is High, Odd bet that number and
the other eight High Odd numbers once.

Same for High, Even and Low Odd/Even

Stop on a win or after four consecutive misses.

Example: #13 (newest spin-value)-Low, Odd

Bet 1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15 once:                 1.) 20(x)

Bet 20,22,24,26,28,30,32,34,36 once:    2.) 2(x)

Bet 2,4,6,8,10,12,14,16,18 once....

Bankroll suggestion: 36 units per session

[Proofreaders2000]

New idea, looking good in early tests

Bet the newest three natural splits and zero
(seven numbers in play)

(Natural splits: 1/4, 2/5, 3/6, 7/10, 8/11, 9/12-First Dozen

13/16, 14/17, 15/18, 19/22, 20/23, 21/24-Second Dozen

25/28, 26/29, 27/30, 31/34, 32/35, 33/36-Third Dozen)
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If win end session, if miss bet with newest spin-value included

Stop on a win or after five consecutive misses.

Example: 21,31,4,9,36 (newest spin-value)

Bet 33/36, 9/12, 1/4 & zero once:    1.) 32(x)

Bet 32/35, 33/36, 9/12 & zero....

Bankroll suggestion: 35 units per session

[probasah]

Did anyone came close in finding the missing 1% ?

I do not get the  part of the "connected numbers". 1/2 2/3 ... etc

Anything can be simulated in excel or any programming language. Its not that difficult.

stage 1 is pretty straight forward bet numbers as they appear until 8 .
if stage 1 fails (-36 units) then what?

Alex

[wiggy]

Maybe you guys need to look at things slightly different!

I had this idea......

Let's assume then you are working up to 8 original numbers. In addition you also add how many hits the streets are getting.

First number out is 10.

1. 10 = street 4.
2. 17 = street 6.
3. 18 = street 6. (street 6 now has two appearances, so you would bet any numbers from your list where a street has appeared twice)
4. 25 = street 9.
5. 1 = street 1.
6. 24 = street 8.
7. 32 = street 11.
8. 28 = street 10.

Now remove the first number which was 10.

Next number = 18 = street 6. You would have bet 2 chips x 6 spins = 12 chips and made a profit of 24 chips.

You could start again now. It's just an idea really and something I never considered before. By using the stats for a location like streets, you roughly know after 12 spins that you should get 8 originals and a few repeats or a 3peat or a 4peat. So why not try and use these stats to isolate which numbers to bet from your group of 8. It serves the purpose of reducing the outlay and taking advantage of anything hot. If nothing else, it's an idea that maybe can be built upon.

[Madi]

Any other idea will indicate his total description is bogus. No value and to misguide people.his description is clear and doesnt work.clearly stated

1. Either 8 number
2.or 4 number

Actually there is no missing 1%. Its 99% missing.

[Proofreaders2000]

Another shot at this.

Bet the newest nine numbers. 
(If a number repeats within the nine it only counts once)

Bet each new spin-value with each new outcome
(nine numbers in play)

You get 12 attempts total to get
into profit (12x9=108 units bankroll)

A good exit point is +30% over original starting bankroll

[bigmoney]

I dunno why he didnt offer better clues as we have some very smart people in this forum
Im currently  looking at 8 streets with a progression ...it would  go 1....3 ....9 ... in a series

[probasah]

I dunno why he didnt offer better clues as we have some very smart people in this forum
Im currently  looking at 8 streets with a progression ...it would  go 1....3 ....9 ... in a series

Hi bigmoney

I call Vaddis HG a complete BS. I offer my coding skills for free to anyone that wants to test their system and prove me wrong. It just does not work. If there is a HG out there it has to win FLAT. All progression have failed in the past, are failing at the present and will continue to fail in the future.

Alex