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Vaddis Holy Grail

Started by RFMAXX, Aug 20, 03:35 AM 2015

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Bigbroben

6 or 9 would make sense, Tesla and all other scientists thought nr3 and the multiples of this made all things amazing, in the physical world.

7 is more of a biblical number...
Does this come down to science or belief?!?
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Ricky


Hi
was intrigued by this method which seems to be a low risk flat bet selection based on last x historical values. I have tested this with some success but only when numbers are repeating frequently. When you get a long sequence of single numbers your bankroll can get depleted.

I am not sure if this will help but to reduce the number of chips on the layout you could use splits, quads and streets to cover your numbers. You will get different payouts depending on what number hit but that could be compensated partially by the reduced betting requirement

But sadly, I do not think this is the HG as it depends on luck to get ahead and has no progression.
If you were to add some sort of progression or parlay then you may get close to accelerating your wins

Cheers,
Ricky

Proofreaders2000

Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 18, 02:00 PM 2018
6 or 9 would make sense, Tesla and all other scientists thought nr3 and the multiples of this made all things amazing, in the physical world.

7 is more of a biblical number...
Does this come down to science or belief?!?

According to Vaddi's notes the greatest
edge of 7,8 or 9 uniques would be seven.

(I just don't see the hit-rate being any better)

boyd30

He never revealed what the number was. Some believe it is 8, but I'm not sure. It wasn't only betting the last numbers. He also talked about pairs, splits and nonhits, singles and doubles. Even if you do a mix of this it's still a guessing game. And it would win with flatbetting!

jekhb76

Quote from: boyd30 on Apr 18, 03:34 PM 2018
He never revealed what the number was. Some believe it is 8, but I'm not sure. It wasn't only betting the last numbers. He also talked about pairs, splits and nonhits, singles and doubles. Even if you do a mix of this it's still a guessing game. And it would win with flatbetting!
I Always believed it was 7
But like vaddis said, les then 9 and More then 6. So either 7 or 8.

Bigbroben

Could not find, but I remember reading from him it was not 8.

My guts is it's 7, but haven't tested it profoundly yet.

Here are 2 quotes.

Still have doubts the ''pair'' is a split...

Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Ricky

Quote from: Bigbroben on Apr 18, 04:31 PM 2018
Could not find, but I remember reading from him it was not 8.

My guts is it's 7, but haven't tested it profoundly yet.

Here are 2 quotes.

Still have doubts the ''pair'' is a split...
Hi all
I just read Vaddis post mentioned at the beginning of this thread. Has anyone worked out what he is referring to in the way he is betting?

My understanding is he is referring to the bias generated by a dealer called a footprint. In 37 spins the ball will land in a pattern around the wheel hitting the same number several times because it is landing in the same area of the wheel. In a properly regulated condition when the dealer is forced to spin the ball from approximately the same location of the last spun number then he generates a footprint around the wheel and the ball revolves approx the same number of times and the wheel spins at approx the same speed in the opposite direction. After 37 spins you get a good sample of the footprint being generated.

Given this information you then make 12 bets identifying 2 dominant numbers, ones that have hit the most and you bet both their neighbours up to 5 numbers for each number. So you need to look at the wheel and if say 5 and 32 were showing as the dominant numbers then look at the 2 numbers either side of these numbers, you have a total of 10 numbers including 5 and 32. So the numbers would be (on european wheel) 23,10,5,24,16 and 26,0,32,15,19. Now you could confirm these two landing strips are correct by checking the frequency in which each of these numbers have hit in the last 37 spins. If the have hit more times than others then you have a good candidate for winning on the next 12 spins.

Using this method you need to ensure 2 things:
1. Reset your tracking on a change of dealer as the footprint will be lost
2. Ensure the dealer spins the ball at approx the same location as the last number. I have observed in online casinos that this rule is constantly broken by dealers. One dealer i know lets the wheel spin half a revolution before he releases the ball. This system cannot be played on those wheels as there is no dealer bias.

Am I on the right track with this system?

cheers,
Ricky

Proofreaders2000

Just played two sessions on Celtic Live European Wheel.  :thumbsup:

*seven uniques=max numbers to bet-
based on what's shown on the Marquee

Test: Celtic European Wheel-
Thursday, April 19,2018 @ 11:44pm CDT USA

#36 (newest spin-value)

Bet #36:    1.) 10(x)-1

Bet 36,10:    2.) 35(x)-2

Bet 36,10,35:    3.) 26(x)-3

Bet 36,10,35,26:    4.) 13(x)-4

Bet 36,10,35,26,13:    5.) 26(win)+31
---------------------------------------------------------------------
+21
==============================
Test: Celtic Casino European Wheel-
Thursday, April 19,2018 @ 11:49pm CDT USA

#26 (newest spin-value)

Bet #26:    1.) 15(x)-1

Bet 26,15:    2.) 36(x)-2

Bet 26,15,36:    3.) 11(x)-3

Bet 26,15,36,11:    4.) 8(x)-4

Bet 26,15,36,11,8:    5.) 9(x)-5

Bet 26,15,36,11,8,9:    6.) 30(x)-6

Bet 26,15,36,11,8,9,30:        7.) 4(x)-7
*bet newest seven uniques each spin at this point

Bet 15,36,11,8,9,30,4:           8.) 26(x)-7

Bet 36,11,8,9,30,4,26:           9.) 32(x)-7

Bet 11,8,9,30,4,26,32:          10.) 17(x)-7

Bet 8,9,30,4,26,32,17:          11.) 36(x)-7

Bet 9,30,4,26,32,17,36:        12.) 1(x)-7

Bet 30,4,26,32,17,36,1:        13.) 16(x)-7

Bet 4,26,32,17,36,1,16:        14.) 1(win)+29
*bet last seven uniques

Bet 30,4,26,32,17,36,16:      15.) 20(x)-7

Bet 4,26,32,17,36,16,20:      16.) 24(x)-7

Bet 26,32,17,36,16,20,24:    17.) 9(x)-7

Bet 9,24,20,16,36,17,32:      18.) 24(win)+29

Bet 9,20,16,36,17,32,26:      19.) 32(win)+29

(waiting for new unique single)...0 (trigger)

Bet 9,20,16,36,17,26,0:        20.) 34(x)-7

Bet 20,16,36,17,26,0,34:      21.) 33(x)-7

Bet 16,36,17,26,0,34,33:      22.) 25(x)-7

Bet 36,17,26,0,34,33,25:      23.) 5(x)-7

Bet 17,26,0,34,33,25,5:        24.) 24(x)-7

Bet 26,0,34,33,25,5,24:        25.) 8(x)-7

Bet 0,34,33,25,5,24,8:          26.) 5(win)+29

Bet 32,0,34,33,25,24,8:        27.) 27(x)-7

Bet 0,34,33,25,24,8,27:        28.) 35(x)-7

Bet 34,33,25,24,8,27,35:      29.) 8(win)+29

Bet 0,34,33,25,24,27,35:      30.) 14(x)-7

Bet 34,33,25,24,27,35,14:    31.) 14(win)+29
------------------------------------------------------------------------
+10

(hope this helps)   :)

jekhb76

I understand the princible, we bet up to seven unique numbers. After you Have seven unique numbers everytime a unique number appears, we remove the oldest # and add the newest. And we move the newest to spot 1.But how to make this the HG? That's the question.

Proofreaders2000

From what I read Vaddi made an automatic bot out
of the seven uniques formula with a bankroll of 100 units

and let the bot play continuously.

As long as the balance never goes
over -100 units that would be the Grail.

Bigbroben

Ricky,

Vaddis mentioned the system was also good with RNG, but was even more efficient if a real dealer showed a signature.

Does anyone knows when he'd switch from betting the nrs to betting the ''pair''?

What did he mean by ''observing how numbers connect to each other after every 4 spins'' ?

Another RNG trial: wait for last 7 nrs show no repeater and start rolling the last 7.  Almost an average of +1/spin.

Thought: If one bets all 37 nrs, this is the house edge:-1 every spin.  With 7 nrs, a hit on 5th spin gets you to +1.  He said at some point the magic nr was the player's edge.

Room for thoughts...!
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.


boyd30

I"m interesting in this. Trying to figure it out, but don't really understand. I've seen the above graph before. From who is that and what does the spanish say?

Bigbroben

He said it's a graph of what he'S doing right now from Vaddis phase 1 system.

PassionRuletta,
how many nrs, 7?
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

Bigbroben

PR,

do you switch to 16 nrs as soon as phase1 fails?

I need to think this over about 8 nrs, trying to understand the ratios you mentioned...

''24 numbers land
12 times the proportion of land

twenty-one.''

What do you mean?
Life is hard, and then you die.
Mes pensées sont le dernier retranchement de ma liberté.

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