Vaddis Holy Grail

[iggiv]

It's right about inside bets, and his bet selection is not the worst one -- betting on cold would be worse. And yes, he is "onto something" like some people which suggested betting on multiple recent hits. But this kind of bet selection is right only partially. And if you keep betting this way you will lose. But if you include it with different proportions sometimes in your different bet selections carefully without overdoing it, you may be winning this game. But there are other conditions should be met. The way as it is it is losing game.

It is not that easy. This is a very complex game, remember it. If it was that simple as he is trying to tell you it would have been cracked long ago.

[Still]

Very ... very interesting indeed, Andrey86Pak.

I'm not aware of that posting, but it's obvious that the person has discovered the power of singles being converted into doubles.

What is missing however, is the flip side of singles to doubles, which is sleepers being converted into lands, i.e., sleepers to singles.

All elements of roulette have a mirror and you can use lands / doubles to flow with and to predict sleepers.

- Vaddi

The inside numbers constantly 'try' to balance with each other in a sort of uniform dance. And there are ways to temporarily exploit the imbalances.
-Vaddi

- using dropped numbers to predict future drops

Based on what I've said about balance and connected numbers (based on the pairs table) ...

How could you use already landed numbers to 'predict' numbers that are likely to land next?

No, you can't precisely predict which number will land next, but there's a way to get as close as you possibly can.

But it has do with observing how numbers connect to each other after every 4 spins, based on the pairs table.

- Vaddi

The above pairings take care of your singles and doubles all at the same time.

Do you see the balancing guys?

Which means that if #2 lands, then you need to bet on #2 and #3 at the same time. Splits or single chip.

As above, always choose your pairings going forward.

However, what happens if #3 is already covered? In that case go backwards and cover #1 instead. That's because, as in the table above, #2 is also connected to #1.

-Vaddi

I know ... putting the grail together based on the many clues I've provided is a killer challenge. Different components that are presented impact on other suggested elements and transforms the final solution into something new.
- Vaddi

Your main task is to understand the whole picture based on all the parameters combined together.

None of the parameters stand in isolation of one another. 

- Vaddi

On the other hand, all this may be to sell software:

Search on this forum for my FREE Roulette Numbers Data Extractor script to study repeater patterns and repeater ranges. You'll need Roulette Scripter Studio Pro though.

The script might give you a fresh perspective on roulette.

- Vaddi

So beware

[Still]

Based on the above clues we would be betting on landed, as well as each unlanded "pair" of the landed. At any stage we would be betting on an even number of inside numbers, up to 16, but explicitly NOT 18 numbers.  Something like that.  If were going to go down in flames, at least go down following the clues. Each idea has to conform with ALL clues or it will explicitly not work, according to the author.  Ignore the paired number set at your own peril.  On the other hand, this could be a slick way to sell software.

[falkor2k15]

I've tested untold variations now, but only 2 are holding above water for 10,000 spins:
1) Wait for a single to appear then bet 1 chip on singles and 1 chip on doubles (8 x 2 = 16 numbers). If the singles start repeating and form a large gap ahead of the doubles then change to 0 chips on singles and 1 chip on doubles. Doubles has the edge so they will catch up. Once the doubles equal the singles then stop. This hovered between +400-1000 for 10,000 spins. No opposite strategy works for the singles when the doubles are ahead because they are weaker.
2) Bet singles only until a single appears then bet doubles only until a double appears and then keep switching to try and force a win from both, alternating one at a time.

All other methods are failing. I tried a stop loss when the singles or the doubles go ahead of the other. I tried a "singles recovery" when the doubles go ahead, but they never catch the doubles because the doubles have a slight edge. I tried 2 chips instead of 1. I tried different "magic numbers". I tried stop loss whenever there's a "crossover", i.e. the doubles = the singles.

[falkor2k15]

Attached is how I managed to pass 10K - one of the few ways I could get Vaddi's system to stay afloat for a good number of spins - all instructions are in red.

[Proofreaders2000]

Hey guys.  Try this

Bet any number that shows of these: #6, #7, #8, #9, #10

To my surprise good hit rate :d
==============================
Test: Celtic Casino European Wheel-
Saturday, August 22,2015 @ 11:31pm CDT USA

...11,1,27,17,10*

Bet #10:     1.) 4(x)-1               2.) 15(x)-1               3.) 6(x)-1*

Bet 10,6:     4.) 3(x)-2               5.) 27(x)-2               6.) 15(x)-2

7.) 30(x)-2                8.) 23(x)-2               9.) 22(x)-2               10.) 11(x)-2

11.) 0(x)-2               12.) 7(x)-2*

Bet 10,6,7:    13.) 34(x)-3               14.) 3(x)-3               15.) 25(x)-3

16.) 7(win)+33*

Bet 10,6:     17.) 14(x)-2               18.) 27(x)-2               19.) 34(x)-2

20.) 4(x)-2               21.) 29(x)-2               22.) 30(x)-2

23.) 18(x)-2               24.) 2(x)-2               25.) 23(x)-2

26.) 10(win)+34
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+21 

[helena]

For me this Vaddi comment has huge significance in the original thread:

Balance is not a problem in roulette.

It's an advantage that the wheel gives you, because the wheel will ...... temporarily shift out of balance and then shift back into balance.

Therefore you need a system that can detect and take advantage of these shifts when they happen.

You need a system that incorporates an element that follows what the wheel does so that your play is in sync with the wheel.

[iggiv]

it's totally impossible on a long run. Balance works on big numbers. For example after 1000 spins there gonna be roughly a balance of black and red. But it does not make any sense for a player. What you guys now are trying to do (finding HG like Vaddi declares to have) is against rules of probability. You will never beat those rules on a long run.

It does not mean that you can't defeat roulette at all. Yes you can. But not by finding HG which will always defeat roulette for as long period of time as you wish. Again -- it contradicts rules of probability.

link:://wizardofodds.com/gambling/betting-systems/challenge/

[nottophammer]

here's some numbers posted in a thread cant remember which thou, poster XXedos

22      1      
18      2      36
22      1      
33      2      
23      3      
15      4      
36      5      
17      6      
32      7      
  5      8      36
32      1      
25      2      
19      3      36
19      1      
21      2      
33      3      
30      4      
11      5      
10      6      
22      7      
27      8      36
30      1      
35      2      
  8      3      
26      4      
10      5      
18      6      
12      7      
  1      8      
14      16      
25      16      
27      24      
  7      32      144
10      1      
23      2      
33      3      
19      4      
  6      5      
28      6      
  9      7      
13      8      
17      16      
11      16      72
17      1      
19      2      
24      3      
18      4      
  2      5      
21      6      
32      7      
13      8      
22      16      
10      16      
  8      24      
35      32      
  3      40      
23      48      216
13            
31            
31            
  9            
24            
22            
31            
13            
19            
30   

if played right  +91 units on singles for 33 spins, when do the doubles come in to play?      

[Turner]

When was the big post posted by Vaddi? It feels like the prime thinking everyone goes through....like "number six" in VLS in 2010 with his LOTT posts

Written very similarly

I would guess it's a few years ago....could be wrong.

[Still]

When was the big post posted by Vaddi? It feels like the prime thinking everyone goes through....like "number six" in VLS in 2010 with his LOTT posts

Written very similarly

I would guess it's a few years ago....could be wrong.

Summer 2013

@nottophammer:  what are you suggesting?

Anyways, original clues suggest that if a #1 hits you bet on #2,  if #2 hits you bet on #3 (and so on) while maintaining bets on everything thats hit in the last eight spins.  Something like that.  I don't think anybody has tested this, so this thread is inconclusive.

[iggiv]

Some food for thoughts maybe. Yesterday i saw 17 sleepers waking up one after another. It is just one example. And it is not some rare events. Such things happen pretty much frequently. How Vaddi's "HG" would handle it? Believe me there will be days when you gonna see lots of such events. On this very moment you gonna play it's impossible to know what roulette will give you. Last number repeating or some multiple hit repeating again. Or some sleeper waking up. Or ten of sleepers waking up and shooting one after another. It's totally impossible to predict.

What is possible though is to create each time different combination of repeaters single hits and sleepers.

[vladir]

Some food for thoughts maybe. Yesterday i saw 17 sleepers waking up one after another. It is just one example. And it is not some rare events. Such things happen pretty much frequently. How Vaddi's "HG" would handle it? Believe me there will be days when you gonna see lots of such events. On this very moment you gonna play it's impossible to know what roulette will give you. Last number repeating or some multiple hit repeating again. Or some sleeper waking up. Or ten of sleepers waking up and shooting one after another. It's totally impossible to predict.

What is possible though is to create each time different combination of repeaters single hits and sleepers.

Yes, also for that roulette has a special treat - the exact selection of numbers we don't pick will come out enough times to leave our bankrolls very sad.

[iggiv]

Roulette does not know or care what numbers you take. What roulette does it gives you all the time different patterns. So if you manage to do just that, you have some chances to win. It's not easy though. People lose mostly in roulette for the same reason. Humans go by patterns. So if you just pick some numbers out of you head most likely it will be some kind of pattern you are using. It may win sometimes but then it is gonna lose. You may have a few patterns but eventually they will lose too. Your task is not easy. To find a way to create each time a new pattern with sufficient numbers to bet. But if you are able to do it somehow you have chance to win.

There are some others factors i mentioned already.

[doola]

Yes, also for that roulette has a special treat - the exact selection of numbers we don't pick will come out enough times to leave our bankrolls very sad.

That happens alot, especially on RNG.......