Vaddis Holy Grail

[Bigbroben]

Passion,

If you do not want to define balance, could you tell at least what would be an inbalance?
Do you mean, ex:  only 2 dozens appeared in 6 spins, or : 4 splits in the Low side in row?  Stuff like that?
Or is it more like:  numeral gaps between 3 consecutive nrs are all below 6?
Or what?

[Proofreaders2000]

From what I've read about balance according to Vaddi:

12 unhit singles: 12 unique singles &

12 singles that have hit more than once

[Proofreaders2000]

Thinking out loud here.

You usually get one repeat single within
12 spins. (I've noticed by observation)

According to Vaddi you always bet the newest outcome.

The graph that Passion posts
looks like a four-number flat-bet.

Bet the newest repeater, newest outcome and
the numerically higher numbers on both respectively.

Example: 12,31,4,0,21,7,9,13,4,20,15,10 (newest spin-value)

Bet 4,5 & 10,11 once:    1.) 35

Bet 4,5 & 35,36 once....

Bankroll suggestion: 36 units total

[D.Karas]

That doesent make any sense mate.Yes you will propably get one repeat every 12 spins but still you dont know what number it will be.Might be a repeater might be the 5th number the 10th, might be any number that came up in the last 12 spins.its still a random bet

[Proofreaders2000]

I'm saying when the repeater shows (usually there
is one repeat single shown on the marquee of 12 outcomes. 

Bet that number and the number numerically lower and a dynamic
bet of the newest outcome and the next numerically lower number.

Example: 12,0,31,5,23,19,3,29,36,5,21,30

Bet 4,5 & 29,30:    1.) 15(x)

Bet 4,5 & 14,15....

[D.Karas]

still a random bet.

Why dont i just wait then till 12 singles and then bet all of them?boom theres the holy grail since there has to be a repeat after 12 singles right?

[Badger]

Passion,

If you do not want to define balance, could you tell at least what would be an inbalance?
Do you mean, ex:  only 2 dozens appeared in 6 spins, or : 4 splits in the Low side in row?  Stuff like that?
Or is it more like:  numeral gaps between 3 consecutive nrs are all below 6?
Or what?

This is what VADDI means by balance :

"As you know, when making inside bets, there is always a trade-off between profits, accuracy and risk, depending on the total number of numbers you bet on.

For example:

Assuming $1 units.

If we bet on 30 numbers and we get a hit, our profit will be $36 - $30 = $6 profit.

Betting on more numbers leads to more accuracy, but you'll make a small profit, as above ($6).

If we bet on 6 numbers and we get a hit, our profit will be $36 - $6 = $30 profit.

Betting on less numbers leads to less accuracy, but you'll make a big profit, as above ($30).

So, you want to strike a balance between the two extremes above (between 6 and 30 numbers).

So, you can see in the above, that roulette is always playing the balancing game of risk, accuracy, and profits:

More numbers = less risk + more accuracy + small profits
Less numbers = more risk + less accuracy + more profits

So, the lesser numbers bet on, the more accurate your bet selection process needs to be so that you stand a chance of making good profits.

Hope that makes sense."

[Badger]

He says this about balance somewhere else :

"Bet on less than 10 numbers?
Yes.
Why?
Because you will increase your edge. 10 numbers destroys that balance.
As I've said, I won't tell you what that perfect number is, but it's between 6 and 10. And that number is absolute magic. It's the number that maintains perfect balance. It gives you the best edge when playing inside bets.


Based on your answer, continue to think in terms of balance in relation to your magic X number.
So, if your magic number is 7, or 8, or 9, or 10, will you have balance or an edge or both?
The only way to find out, is to test for yourself.

[D.Karas]

What the hell is this guys where is the proof mang?

Alright theres a perfect number between 25 and 31 find it and you will win.You need to test it for yourself.I go away now see ya

[D.Karas]

I tested with 8 numbers is not working i tested with 9 numbers is not working i tested with 7 numbers is not working.My tests cant be that bad since i had all 3 potencial winners.What is there else to see please point me in the right direction

[Badger]

That's right Karas. Your frustration was expressed by a member of another forum :

"The failure of your system is when the number is not repeated in 20 spins.
And know that the number can be up to 28 times without repeating.
And when that happens will steal all your bankroll.
Goes to zero as any martingale system."

Now VADDI answered this member by saying :

"Ha ... ha!
Now we have something!
That's the sort of thinking I'm talking about!
So what's the killer solution?! While still retaining flat-betting?! Based on the Grail thread?
Someone is getting close.

- Vaddi

Obviously the 1% that we are all searching for will change it into a winning bet.

[D.Karas]

Does that mean that if  the number hits at spin 20 youll break even?And if not you go minus?

[Badger]

No. What the frustrated guy is saying is that you can get up to 20 spins without a repeat.
And if you are thinking of a progression, then know that it is possible to get 28 spins without a repeat.

Remember that VADDI's bet is a flat bet.
This is what he said about the 1% change in thinking :

"You had one side: the doubles
To create balance, you now have the flip side / other side of the coin: the singles

The fundamentals of the grail have not changed. The betting method still stands, but there is one betting adjustment that must be made on the table to take advantage of those two sides at the very same time and to take advantage of balance."

[Badger]

Really guys. It's quite simple. I don't want to be the one to kill the goose that lays gold eggs.

[D.Karas]

So you too know the answer and make lots of money now dont you?You confirm that it works?