Vaddis Holy Grail

[Proofreaders2000]

Just woke up with this one
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Last Four decisions & clockwise one neighbor

Note the newest four outcomes.
Bet those four and one neighbor clockwise

Example: 13,9,20,2 (newest spin-value)

(European Wheel: Bet 13,36:    9,22:   20,14:    2,25:    1.) 0(x)-8

Bet 9,22:      20,14:    2,25:    0,32....

[Winner]

Why not think in terms of 12 numbers .in over millions of spins it is fact that one dozen will have min of 4 repeats .ex I would play the first dozen , you could choose which ever. And play the new numbers as they come in and up your flat bet on all repeats.within that dozen.just an idea.

[foreverBOB]

Correction winner: in a 37 cycle one dozen will have at least 2 repeats, not 4

[Irish88]

Why not think in terms of 12 numbers .in over millions of spins it is fact that one dozen will have min of 4 repeats .ex I would play the first dozen , you could choose which ever. And play the new numbers as they come in and up your flat bet on all repeats.within that dozen.just an idea.

I actually think this is a very good thought. Instead of focusing on all numbers. Just bet on all the numbers that have apppeared in one dozen.

Another thought is to play the neighbors on each repeater once a number has repeated.

[Elite]

i guess, VAD , system, is law of third.playing on 37 numbers house edge is 2.70.
but if we play in 37 spins only 24 numbers , 10 repeaters , and may be one or two comes 3 times and to get this he manage a bet sequence( i think this betting pattern is the key , which is somehow threating )...
So if someone can figure out how to place bets in such a way, that  after 37 spins, if 10 repeaters comes, at any stage no matter, but he will get benefit, because he touch only 24 numbers.he gave a clue at the end of his thread, 2 chips on doubles or 1 chip on doubles or half a chip .option 2 and 3 will make u smile, means, on doubles, as i understand it will b, 2 chips on singles, one chip on doubles, that i guess..so if progress until 37 spins,toucing 24 numbers only, may b this way, any one can suggest

[Elite]

to increase accuracy he mentioned wait until no doubles in your magic number, suppose its 8 magic number, then we left with 31 spins, to play, out of 31, spins, now only 16 new number will come, so we will loose 16 times, and we will win 15 times, so with little progression, every 37 spin cycle if it get close to law of third, we can be always be in  profit, and we got Holy grail then i guess, because we always win in 37 spin cycle. suppose if first cycle, got imbalanced, then start 2nd cycle . so if law of third exists , which is mathematically proven fact, then for sure will be in profit, so only thing i can see, we need to manage bets in such a way, that if we loose 16 times, and win, 15 times in 37 cycle we will be in profit,

[Bigbroben]

By the way:

golden ratio (Phi): 1.618034...

37/Phi: 22.86, rounded to 23. 
Could be another proportion to start with, since it is close to 2/3rds of 37, but not quite.

More accurate?

Just an idea...

[Elite]

another thought, in real gameplay i noticed, that if doubles are not dropping then singles can go until 16 spins, so if we weight until first doubles hit > magic number selected e.g 8 magic number.
then start betting on all numbers , singles doubles(with half value chip).
may be that way accuracy can be improved more.and as we reach target profit  for that cycle  stop that cycle.

[Elite]

below quote from roulette passion(who claims he has vaadi holy grail)
24 single -12 repeated - 13 without leaving.
Here is a tremendous balance and you have to see it.
I want you to get it, man.

It has two phases of balance, I can not say anything else.

my analysis on this  is
two phases of balance, ::
first phase single must need to drop ,
2nd phase  repeater.
this way only one cycle can be balance

to catch, singles, pairing concept, that i guess, is the conclusion of vaadi system..

but if prolong to 2nd cycle connected with first cycle, then  a way to catch sleepers who are going to turn in singles, that i guess, is with pairing concept too, e.g 1 and 2 drop, then possible sleeper no 3 is going to turn into singles in next cycle, etc

[Irish88]

I think the pairs are two numbers that are side by side on a wheel. A pair of numbers. Once you get a pair that has hit, no matter now many spins apart in the cycle, you bet on those two numbers. Would this fall into law of the third?

[Winner]

I actually think this is a very good thought. Instead of focusing on all numbers. Just bet on all the numbers that have apppeared in one dozen.

Another thought is to play the neighbors on each repeater once a number has repeated.

Don’t get caught in dealing with all the numbers concentrate on one section probability is all the same .i did this years agowith  a guy named AMK we did tons of research on this ,one dozen that’s all you need .test it you’ll see

[Proofreaders2000]

I think the pairs are two numbers that are side by side on a wheel. A pair of numbers. Once you get a pair that has hit, no matter now many spins apart in the cycle, you bet on those two numbers. Would this fall into law of the third?

I think you're on to something with the neighbors-when three
contiguous neighbors have two hits bet all three for a third hit.

Ex: 0,32,15 (European wheel)-0 hits, then 15
(whichever set of three hits then bet all three for 12 spins.

[Bigbroben]

Or so:

Although rng, no real wheel.  Once 3 neighbours hit since the beginning of the  cycle, play them? Add as they come or reset at nh?

Below, a quick test, no reset, add the blocks of 3 as they come:


Beginner's luck like any new concept being tried... 21 nrs out, 16 slept, a 4timer and 3 3s...

[Proofreaders2000]

Thanks again Bigbroben 

I tested it manually and I get the same results-
-BUT-

It's not playable unless the bettor is
very knowledgable of wheel neighbors.

Vaddi's system must be simplier to implement.

[Bigbroben]

Yes, it must be simpler.
It can of course be modified to a shorter window, say 8 or 12 spins.  If 3 neighbours, or if only 2, or if a repeat in 8, or a repeat and a neighbour in 12...

Did 2 more, got +77 and -199 if I kept all eligible nrs until end of the 37 spins.  Overall positive but I have the feeling it's not quite it.  Perhaps indeed a reset on a new high or on first hit.
Or of course play step1, and then this method, in case of failure of step1...
For step1 can get a long way until it busts, then it's only a 36u deficit to overcome.  Restart at step1 if no new high in 37 spins?