Vaddis Holy Grail

[Proofreaders2000]

Hey Ignatus.  According to the late Flat_Ino, a lifetime
test for a system should be in profit after 400 bets.

Don't forget the 'fun' part in creating systems 
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@all

"If you see a new trigger bet the new trigger
instead, but continue the countdown to nine spins.

Example: 12,0,24,6,18,5 (newest spin-value)

Bet 7,6,5,4:    1.) 2(x)-4               2.) 32(x)-4               3.) 25(x)-4*

Bet 23,24,25,26:    4.) ...."

European wheel recommended

[ignatus]

Bet 7,6,5,4:   

Well, Blessings Upon you proof<3 You got a fantastic vision, and i thank you, now, you start to work in the right direcition... ....but...im sorry to say,...this will also fail.....yes, it's true,...it's a *complete* failure..... yes,.. why? Becaause...as I've told you before,....this,..."frame" is "too small"..you must include, these "outside possibilities", "outside" your, "frame", witch is, "4 numbers" .. so, conclution, again....this is a complete failure,... ....End of the story,... (as I've already told you..?)..you must include the this frame of 8-10 numbers, if you're ever going to succeed,...that's a fact, both logically, scientifically and..? (as proven from the stats, that, again, irish88, has revealed to me...)....so conluding words for "Vladdis Grail",....this is.....a "non-working system"...That's it...so End this thread, now, im not givning you any more support.... Try focus on my thread "AI~FLAT_8",...im telling you..this original idea did Not come from "any ordinary" "source", that "you believe or believe not"...but, that's a fact, and im not dreaming,.... thank you..now. you/we work on THIS ---> link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=24867.msg218988;topicseen#msg218988 i am *not* giving Any more support to this thread. so That's my final words.

[Proofreaders2000]

One more idea

Note each last decision spin-value.  Bet the newest
single, the next numerically higher number and zero once.

Stop on a win or after 12 consecutive misses.

Example: #33 (newest spin-value)

Bet 33,34,0 once:    1.) 14(x)-3

Bet 14,15,0 once....

*If #36 shows bet 36,35,0 once.

[ignatus]

One more idea

Note each last decision spin-value.  Bet the newest
single, the next numerically higher number and zero once.

Stop on a win or after 12 consecutive misses.

Example: #33 (newest spin-value)

Bet 33,34,0 once:    1.) 14(x)-3

Bet 14,15,0 once....

*If #36 shows bet 36,35,0 once.

That, was the most clever, and fun system, i *ever seen*.....

Thanks 

[Elite]

Vaadi, system, puzzle , i guess, now its clear..pair number is numerically higher no..
that some time happens in real game. but repeats always..so i guess, 1% need to accommodate for pairing if required.
Important thing, i think is when to enter game...?
when single only dropping?
when double and single both comming up?
or when no repeats in your magic no?
or if  no repeats in magic no but  before that, doubles dropped and balance the game already ?
or when no repeats in your magic no and before that few only doubles dropped?

....may be if consider these can be effective,

[Elite]

below one chart for illustration

[Elite]

i guess, playing on pairs is conditional with when no  doubles dropping and singles are dropping like crazy(as per vad)

[Elite]

considering, scanrios of doubles, singles an pairs
below 3 posibilites only
1- singles are converting into doubls
2-pairing nubers are landing
3-random numbers are landing(no pair,no doubles)

so below game plan can b
if doubles are coming and able to hit 3 doubles, then change to pairs , observing recent 4 spins.if hit  3 pairs, then change to double

1st and two will b win by vad methods , wht about third case?
i guess in that case need to be on last dropping numbers with 8 numbers. to catch repeaters or may be observe, for for few spins

beauty i  can see in VAD system is its long term wining, while failure can be for short span of time,,

[Elite]

again started decoding..
Think of roulette in these terms and no other:

24 numbers land
12 doubles land

2:1 ratio.

The factors 4 and 8

24 / 8 = 3
12 / 4 = 3


in one ideal cycle, have 24 no drops,   12 doubles +12 singles
to capture doubles, we know well, how to capture, singles also because , doubles and singels both in 50 50 ratio,, so i guess, betting on 8 numbers, 4 will b on recent landing nos and 4 will b on pairs,,,,analysing +++

[Irish88]

The thing with Vaddi is he says it goes up and down quite a bit. I think everyone expects to be in immediate profit say after 4-8 spins. That isn't the case. You have to flat bet but at some point it will get into profit at a new high. Like he said, it usually took till around spin 24 to get into profit.  One that happens you re-set with a new set of numbers. That is how I am interpreting it now. Again you have to follow the wheel. It will eventually go back to where it once was. Make sense? I could be completely wrong of course.

[Bigbroben]

If about 24 spins to be back in profit, after 8 spins of step1 ( if it is , that leaves 16 spins to recover from a -36u deficit.  Or is it 24 spins to recover?

[Elite]

Vadi quote:  if you're using $10 chips, how about making $350 in about 10 minutes without sweating and without using any progression?

based on above, using 1$ chip, we can make profit of 35$ within 10 minutes, ..in 10 minues avg spins can be 15 to 20.. so seems like he making profit around 20 spins, in one session,,

@Irish, seems like this,as you thinking

[Elite]

after giving alll clues , he said he will not share his simple method,, ommmm, seems something ++ there,
his cluses
1-bet on 8 sets, like , one chip on first landed no and keep going on until 8,
  block state; if no hit within that range. if hit and get new high start from begining
2-pair numbers, to bet  capture singles
3-bet on doubles with lower amounts than singles

he mentioned, predict sleepers based on lands or doubles? i didnt get the clue how to do this.
He agree on MOD01 system that its for predicting, singles to doubles
one more point he added , think numbers like  2,4,6,8, etc,,
Once clue he given, every no has its mirror...

++vad cluce: wheel, balance, partner no.
balane, partner no , got idea, what he mean by wheel? how to use this in his system? no clue in my mind

so what was final solution he got based on above presented facts ...  thinking on way

[Elite]

sad thing, he never returned on this forum, my worriness is , and good wishes for his life,
and somehow if he able to read this thread, my request him to join here .without any clue also ok. I personally feel , he is a good man, give important thing of his experience to all, for free,

[Elite]

here attach two cycles no from real wheel