Vaddis Holy Grail

[Elite]

and how he predicts slepper, he answerd as below (if any one have idea about mirror then plz share, what that mirror is, is it reverse list or its table to wheel, or its something else). one session i notices, out of 9 , 5 mirrirs came, if considering revers list, but that were two far ranges,
so how to flow with lands/doubles. flow with lands meeans lands growing, doubles means, doubles growing i guess, but how to float with them, not sure,


VAD:All elements of roulette have a mirror and you can use lands / doubles to flow with and to predict sleepers.

[Irish88]

from vaadi quote , how he manging doubles

1) 2 chips on doubles

2) 1 chip on doubles

3) Half of a chip on doubles

2) and 3) should make you smile. Smiley

- Vaddi

So stupid question on my part. What is a double? A repeater? Or a pair on the table?

[Elite]

what he said how can b a consistent winner.. below (what does 2,4,12 means, if any one have idea, plz share)


I now believe that there are many answers to winning against roulette consistently once you grasp ideas with regard to ...

- flat betting
- balance
- paired numbers
- following the wheel
- doubles (12)
- singles (24)
- using dropped numbers to predict future drops
- thinking in terms of even numbers: 4, 8, 12, 24, 36

[Elite]

Wheel based.  He wasn't sure if it would work on rng, but he suspected it might work.

just corection to my below thread,  i didnt find when he said, its table or wheel, but about pairing he said, that are  must be , backward pariing or froward paring, so big bro ben, how u get that he said its wheel , neighbours, even though now i also feeling he means, wheel, becuase he mentioed dealer signature in one of his post,

[Elite]

So stupid question on my part. What is a double? A repeater? Or a pair on the table?

Irish, first i do correct my before post. i now reread his imporat points again , and didnt find he means wheel or table, but i gues it can be wheel as in one of his post he said, something about dealer also.

Nothing is stupid man. let me explain,
double and repeater same meaning, if one number comes more than one time, e.g if 3 landed and after few spins if it lands again, then its a repeater or doubles,
pair number means, number connected with each other, e.g 1,2,3,4,5,6  here 1  connectes with 2, so  1 and  2 are pairs same, 2, and 3 are pairs, its going towrds 1 to 36, same way pair can be backwar also if go from 36 to 1 then 36 has pair with 35,

[Elite]

for pairing what he said, below. but he consider wheel also in his game play as can depicted, so need to connect wheel also with this pairing, may be to find more clues

Hi,

Are the pairings a sort of code ? lol Or are they meant as they are written

They are meant as they are written.  Wink

- Vaddi

[Elite]

I think you are very close here. I don't fully understand what you are saying to be completely honest but I can make enough of it that it makes great sense. If you notice in the trackers two becomes fours. Splitting and pairing. This reference has been used over and over with Vaddi. Maybe once you have a pair, you bet the other two numbers on either side. But again I ask, Is Vaddi wheel based or table based? A pair in the table 17,18 or 7,11(American wheel). Both? Eventually the gaps fill in. Is this due to the law of the third? Does it have to happen? The gaps fill in or it has to back to where it once was?

gaps will filled as after 37 spins 24 numbers will drop, and  there is no way they can occur without filling gap,if playing on gaps u can loose if numbers are repeating, and there are 12 numbers to repeat, and 13 will not come at all, so how to manage this situation, as i can see this law of third is not player friendly , it seems more casino friendly

[Elite]

Wheel based.  He wasn't sure if it would work on rng, but he suspected it might work.

HI Ben, i guess, he uses wheel, but he plays on sequence, and combining both  may b that its mirror, so predict numbers, so he follows wheel for sure, without seeing and follow wheel is like we just playing blindly on rng roulete so your are right in this sense   but what he said he perfer phsyscal wheel because it follows nature rule that is law of third , so here confusion, man, his concern looks towrds law of third more than, wheel

[Kattila]

Here a idea ( nothing to do with vaddis) for you ....
You have 6 different numbers , each of that numbers did not hit the 
neighbors (Wheel) of the other ones. Start to bet that 6 and the two
neighbors of each, so 18 numbers. If lose bet all that 18 and the new
number and the two neighbors (or 2 close numbers), so bet 21 numbers.
If lose , bet that 21 and the new number + 2 neighbors ( or 2 close numbers),
so bet 24 numbers .  Still need good MM plan for this.
Also can start with 5 diff . numbers , so 15 no,  18 no , 21  no, 24 no .

cheers

[Elite]

Here a idea ( nothing to do with vaddis) for you ....
You have 6 different numbers , each of that numbers did not hit the 
neighbors (Wheel) of the other ones. Start to bet that 6 and the two
neighbors of each, so 18 numbers. If lose bet all that 18 and the new
number and the two neighbors (or 2 close numbers), so bet 21 numbers.
If lose , bet that 21 and the new number + 2 neighbors ( or 2 close numbers),
so bet 24 numbers .  Still need good MM plan for this.
Also can start with 5 diff . numbers , so 15 no,  18 no , 21  no, 24 no .

cheers

hi katalia , this way progression will be high and require good balance, even though accuracy is more,  but profit will b low and balance require will b high, and if it goes, until table limit  , like martingle very quickly

[Elite]

i got some idea on mirror system and i hope vad using same way, if take 1 to 36 one list and 36 to 1 2nd list, so  nubmers will not be same, as  35 hit  two times and 1 hit also two times, 34 hit 3 times and 3 hits  3 times, so keeping that and also keeping law of third, can reach to next landing numbers one thought ,

[Herby]

2nd list

For a second list you have (37! - 1) = (13763753091226345046315979581580902400000000 - 1) possiblities. 

[Elite]

For a second list you have (37! - 1) = (13763753091226345046315979581580902400000000 - 1) possiblities. 

yes but law of third says 24 number only will drop in one cycle. example for mirror can be like RR BBRR , so now how many chnce, same pattren will repeat, but u r right , there are many possiblites with numbers, but what vadi says number comes in uniform dance, and we have lands and doubles to predict sleepers, so we have to keep that lands, (consecutive numbers landed) and doubles, also in mind, so in this way can get close to next predicted numbers, so  getting minor advantage, can beat roulete in long term, one thought,

For 2nd list we not include all numbers, every number one mirror, 36 cannot be mirrir with 36, so we left with only 18 numbers, then law of third says 24 drops, so if we are playing 14 spins, and 12 numbers drop, then how much left , then also  how many gaps , that time,  may be analysing all this can get near by target

[Elite]

one quote from vad, making some clues he using, sequence only, not not considering, wheel movement, or dealer signature, etc.
and i guess, when he says, follow wheel , it means,  bet on latest number


The GRAIL does NOT try and guess what the wheel will do. And, that's part of the magic.

[Elite]

a real example of mirror, lands, and pairs,doubles , any  light there? in mirror always left goes to right , thinking this way  ::::