Vaddis Holy Grail

[buffalowizard]

Any other suggestions .as u said u  win frequently.. Any other system or thought to study further

Clive said he solved the puzzle and hasnt lost, shouldn't we be testing his way like crazy? Seems to have been palmed off

[Proofreaders2000]

That's true.  However some think it is a seven or eight number bet using the marquee outcomes.

[Proofreaders2000]

One more idea
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Three Column Natural Splits Plus Zero

Note the three newest column outcomes.  Bet
the natural split on each and a chip on zero once. 

Repeat steps with the newest outcome triggers on each spins. 

Stop on a win or after five consecutive misses.

Example: 21,0,31,5,20 (newest spin-value)

Bet 21,24:     31,34:     20,23,0 once:    1.) 16(x)-7

Bet 21,24:     13,16:     20,23,0 once....

[Elite]

Clive said he solved the puzzle and hasnt lost, shouldn't we be testing his way like crazy? Seems to have been palmed off

Yes yesterday I notice in one casino. Doubles dropping more than pair. Seems like many people testing clive system there.. Remember casino  go opposite.

[Proofreaders2000]

I just tested Clive's Five Number +1 suggestion. 
Good on European wheel, Mixed results on American.
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Test: Celtic Casino European Wheel-
Thursday, January 17,2019 @ 10:12pm CST USA

...31,22,12,34,2,2 (newest spin-value)

Bet 32,23,13,35,3:    1.) 5(x)-5

Bet 23,13,35,3,6:      2.) 21(x)-5

Bet 13,35,3,6,22:      3.) 25(x)-5

Bet 35,3,6,22,26:      4.) 1(x)-5

Bet 3,6,22,26,2:        5.) 28(x)-5

Bet 6,22,26,2,29"      6.) 6(win)+31
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Test: Celtic Casino American Wheel-
Thursday, January 17,2019 @ 10:18pm CST USA

Session total: -35 units
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Test: Cetic Casino European Wheel-
Thursday, January 17,2019 @ 10:26pm CST USA

...15,18,17,8,13 (newest spin-value)

Bet 16,19,18,9,14:    1.) 16(win)+31
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Test: Celtic Casino American Wheel-
Thursday, January 17,2019 @ 10:28pm CST USA

...00,8,7,32,25 (newest spin-value)

Bet 1,9,8,33,26:          1.) 22(x)-5

Bet 9,8,33,26,23:        2.) 15(x)-5

Bet 8,33,27,24,16:      3.) 28(x)-5

Bet 33,27,24,16,29:    4.) 34(x)-5

Bet 27,24,16,29,35:    5.) 23(win)+31
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[Proofreaders2000]

More Clive's Five Number +1 results.
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Test: Celtic Casino European Wheel-
Thursday, January 17,2019 @ 10:54pm CST USA

...33,16,22,4,28 (newest spin-value)

Bet 34,17,23,5,29:    1.) 17(win)+31
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Test: Celtic Casino American Wheel-
Thursday, January 17,2019 @ 10:56pm CST USA

Session total: -35 units
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Test: Celtic Casino European Wheel-
Thursday, January 17,2019 @ 11:04pm CST USA

Session total: -35 units

[Proofreaders2000]

Clive's Five Number +1 results continued
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Test: Celtic Casino American Wheel-
Thursday, January 17,2019 @ 11:19pm CST USA

...20,31,15,10,21 (newest spin-value)

Bet 21,32,16,11,22:    1.) 0(x)-5

Bet 32,16,11,22,1:       2.) 19(x)-5

Bet 16,11,22,1,20:       3.) 22(win)+31
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+21
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Test: Celtic Casino European Wheel-
Thursday, January 17,2019 @ 11:23pm CST USA

...14,23,30,10,0 (newest spin-value)

Bet 15,24,31,11,1:     1.) 28(x)-5

Bet 24,31,11,1,29:     2.) 2(x)-5

Bet 31,11,1,29,3:       3.) 4(x)-5

Bet 11,1,29,3,5:         4.) 15(x)-5

Bet 1,29,3,5,16:         5.) 8(x)-5

Bet 29,3,5,16,9:         6.) 24(x)-5

Bet 3,5,16,9,25:         7.) 25(win)+31
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[nichedelico]

Thanks for testing Proof, i think he's using a progression also. Clive quote  "I only play single numbers, and there is a progression system, I am presently using 5 numbers but started with eight numbers, this is up to the player how many numbers to choose."
but what progression?

[Elite]

Thanks for testing Proof, i think he's using a progression also. Clive quote  "I only play single numbers, and there is a progression system, I am presently using 5 numbers but started with eight numbers, this is up to the player how many numbers to choose."
but what progression?

Progression can win big using 5 or 6 numbers... But if any day. Bad luck.. Then all profit gone... Depends on bankroll how long u can resist... Clive system is not based on facts.  Law of third never say last 5 neighbour repeats will happen... In 37 spins 24 hits 12 doubles.. These are facts to build long term winning system.. I guess

[Elite]

5 no. Progression start slowly. E. G lost 7 times now increase one unit. So have to increase based on to cover losses... But as non hits happen in longer sequence. Then u ve to increase 4..8..  Units on eachyunhit. Imagine  that u r playing 5 no. And 50 dollar on each no... Then u can better judge ur heart beats.. Seeing 32 uncoverd nos

[Irish88]

24 numbers land
12 doubles land

2:1 ratio

Factors 4 and 8

4/12=3
8/24=3

That's the basis of the grail.

8 numbers for doubles + singles strategy

Or only four numbers for doubles only strategy


How do we interpret this riddle?

[nichedelico]

24 numbers land
12 doubles land

2:1 ratio

Factors 4 and 8

4/12=3
8/24=3

That's the basis of the grail.

8 numbers for doubles + singles strategy

Or only four numbers for doubles only strategy


How do we interpret this riddle?

Maybe playing with restricted table? 4 doubles only on a dozen, 8 numbers on 24 numbers?

[Elite]

24 numbers land
12 doubles land

2:1 ratio

Factors 4 and 8

4/12=3
8/24=3

That's the basis of the grail.

8 numbers for doubles + singles strategy

Or only four numbers for doubles only strategy


How do we interpret this riddle?

step 1:my guess..
start your every cycle when there are no hits within 7 numbers . now you will encounter with 17 new numbers only ,within 30 spins..
so our starting point is set for our game play in each session.So will never bet until 7 singles drop in sequence.

[Irish88]

Maybe playing with restricted table? 4 doubles only on a dozen, 8 numbers on 24 numbers?

You might be right Nichedelico. Winner said this a couple of weeks ago. Just focus on repeats in 1 dozen. A lot of people thought Turbo only concentrated on numbers that had appeared in the first dozen.

[Elite]

step 1:my guess..
start your every cycle when there are no hits within 7 numbers . now you will encounter with 17 new numbers only ,within 30 spins..
so our starting point is set for our game play in each session.So will never bet until 7 singles drop in sequence.

24/8 =3 means, i guess, if u play until 24 spins then
3 wins at sequence of 8 numbers
if u start playing 1+2+3.. and on 8 u win =balance = 0
8 onwards 16 , u win on 16 , then balance 0
16 onwards 24 u  win , balance =0 .
with 8 numbers u are in balance mode to play roulette, increaseing that u will b in loss
12/4 =3 means that i not know