Vaddis Holy Grail

[Bigbroben]

"Double-hit ranges:
7 numbers: hit range = 1 - 14 (14th spin hits 7th spin)"

This section was intriguing.  I would think it suggests to add the pair once the nr has missed for x-spins.

So step1 - play 1-7 (or 8 or whatever the nr is).  Past that, add the pair on the oldest?  So you would indeed have way more than 8 nrs, potentially up to 24...

[Irish88]

He says each number has to be bet on 8 times. If it doesn't hit within 8 spins you drop it. I just can't figure out how you incorporate the pairs into that. Do you bet the pair numbers 8 times too?

Could the 4/12=3 indicate you bet 4 spins out in a 4 step process. Then if no hit you take the 4 numbers and their pair for the next 8 spins? I know that is a contradiction with the 8 spins then drop but there does seem to be quite a few contradictions in the clues.

24/8=3 maybe you bet 8 spins in the 8 step process then take the 8 numbers and two pair numbers and bet them for 16 spins. One you are in profit you reset? Just throwing ideas out. I don't think this is how it's played but who knows. Just trying to figure out the riddle and make the numbers fit.

[Sparks]

I do not know what you're doing, but it has nothing to do with what I meant...

oops my bad, hid too many columns!, was betting 4 numbers + pairs making 12, didn't hit very often...

[Irish88]

I do not play 12 numbers, you have to look for the condition, to play single and couples at the same time and play as much 8.

Is it as simple as start betting the 8 step process after there are no repeats in the prior 8 spins? Is that a key element? Then if you don't get a hit in the 8 step, that will have been 16 spins. Then bet the last 8 and their pairs, is the thinking you should be in profit by the 24th spin? Then reset.

[Sparks]

I do not play 12 numbers, you have to look for the condition, to play single and couples at the same time and play as much 8.

Thank you PR. This is the best info anyone has ever given us in quite a while. 


Back to my excel sheet i go!

[Sparks]

Is it as simple as start betting the 8 step process after there are no repeats in the prior 8 spins? Is that a key element? Then if you don't get a hit in the 8 step, that will have been 16 spins. Then bet the last 8 and their pairs, is the thinking you should be in profit by the 24th spin? Then reset.

I have a feeling it's wait for a pair in a set of 8 unique numbers, bet that pair and any other pairs that turn up in the last 8 until profit? Attached example using recorded real spins...

[Irish88]

I have a feeling it's wait for a pair in a set of 8 unique numbers, bet that pair and any other pairs that turn up in the last 8 until profit? Attached example using recorded real spins...

Never thought of that. Great post Sparks. Maybe there is something there. Makes sense. So we only start betting once a pair has a appeared and bet any pairs that come out?

[Sparks]

Never thought of that. Great post Sparks. Maybe there is something there. Makes sense. So we only start betting once a pair has a appeared and bet any pairs that come out?

yes that's correct.

Carried on manually in the excel sheet, it's looking promising...

[Sparks]

the further i go, the more up and down it gets... maybe there's something missing, but i feel this is the closest i've got in a while

[Sparks]

OK, i've added double hits to the triggers, and it's working much better
+136u after 93 spins

God knows how i'm going to set this up automatically in excel... looks like it's gonna be a late night for me later 

[Elite]

Can a system be build on vertex math phenomenon?
It will be interested for STEVE, because he is more towards logic   and patterns than randomness
link:://canvart.club/atmose-01_28_18.html

[Irish88]

OK, i've added double hits to the triggers, and it's working much better
+136u after 93 spins

God knows how i'm going to set this up automatically in excel... looks like it's gonna be a late night for me later 

So you only start betting once you get two pairs?

[Sparks]

So you only start betting once you get two pairs?

say this is the last 8 numbers: 12, 25, 18, 2, 28, 31, 8, 5
There's no pairs in there so no bet.
Next number is 19, making the new 8 set 25, 18, 2, 28, 31, 8, 5, 19.
Because 18 and 19 are pairs, you bet on these 2 numbers until a hit. As you're betting you add new pairs that come up in the last 8 numbers.
so for example the next number is 3 making 18, 2, 28, 31, 8, 5, 19, 3.
that is new paired with your previous #2 and so you add that to your bets making 4 numbers: 18, 19, 2, 3
and so on until you hit.

I've attached an excel that i've been doing manually so far. hope it helps

[Sparks]

also forgot mention in the previous reply, double hits are also a trigger

so to carry on from the previous example: 18, 2, 28, 31, 8, 5, 19, 3.
for this set your current numbers to bet on are 18, 19, 2, 3

The next number lands on 28. so now your bet will be: 18, 19, 2, 3, 28
as far as i can tell, you don't bet on the pair for a double hit, in this case, don't bet on 29

[Sparks]

Yep... after 250 spins this is looking very much like what PR posted.

Now for the long term testing... i'll look at doing that later tonight.