Vaddis Holy Grail

[buffalowizard]

35       
4       
       5 trigger . bet 4 5
20        bet 4 5 20 21
       18 bet 4 5 20 21 18 19
4       win
11       
10        trigger bet 10 11
       36 bet 10 11 36 0
       14 bet 10 11 36 0 14 15
   0    win

In this example, I've just bet the next highest number. Not necessarily the split pair on the layout.
Is this part wrong?
   

[Sparks]

35       
4       
       5 trigger . bet 4 5
20        bet 4 5 20 21
       18 bet 4 5 20 21 18 19
4       win
11       
10        trigger bet 10 11
       36 bet 10 11 36 0
       14 bet 10 11 36 0 14 15
   0    win

In this example, I've just bet the next highest number. Not necessarily the split pair on the layout.
Is this part wrong?

that's correct, just the next highest number, or 0 if 36 pops up

This is something i just came up with yesterday so was testing last night

[buffalowizard]

that's correct, just the next highest number, or 0 if 36 pops up

This is something i just came up with yesterday so was testing last night

Cool, I just saw this -

35
34   trigger pair
33  Here, we have an option of betting just these 3 numbers together because 34 is already covered, or as I improvised, bet the next highest number which is uncovered = 36

Hope this helps

[Sparks]

Cool, I just saw this -

35
34   trigger pair
33  Here, we have an option of betting just these 3 numbers together because 34 is already covered, or as I improvised, bet the next highest number which is uncovered = 36

Hope this helps

as in Vaddis clues, he says if the pair is already taken, then go -1, so if 33 drops and you already have 34 covered, you bet on 32.

[buffalowizard]

Ah ok, interesting. Cheers. I'll try and post some testings later Sparks

[Bigbroben]

At what point would you stop?  On a hit or new high?  rolling 8 spins?

[buffalowizard]

At what point would you stop?  On a hit or new high?  rolling 8 spins?

I'd stop on a hit within the 6 spin progression. If no hit, then restart. I wouldnt go chasing hits

[buffalowizard]

Table 2, 31.01.19 Wiesbaden.
Just grabbed these few for a quick run. I'm no good at working out unit wins for progressions but this would have been a very profitable little session I believe.
What are the win/loss per progression level sparks?


7
28       
0   
16
18
26       
36
7
30
9
35        bet 35,36
27.          Bet 35,36,27,28
14.          Bet 35,36,27,28,14,15
4     bet 35,36,27,28,14,15,4,5
27.    Win. Retrack
-   -   -
8th       
14
14
5
13        bet 13,14
13        win
5
26       
12
33       
9
29       
28        bet 28 29
-   -   -
2        bet 28 29,2,3
25.         Bet 28,29,2,3,25 26
8       bet 28,29,2,3,25,26,8,9
11   bet 28,29,2,3,25,26,8,9,11,12
25.    Win . retrack
32
36
14
11       
28       
13        bet 13,14
13        win. Retrack
17       
24       
-   -   -
33       
1
25.        Bet 24,25
3.          Bet 24,25,3,4
16.        Bet 24,25,3,4,16,17
24        win. Retrack
2       
35       
16
18
-   -   -
34.          Bet 34,35
18.        Bet 34,35,18,19
26        bet 34,35,18,19,26,27
26.       Win

[Sparks]

Table 2, 31.01.19 Wiesbaden.
Just grabbed these few for a quick run. I'm no good at working out unit wins for progressions but this would have been a very profitable little session I believe.
What are the win/loss per progression level sparks?


7
28       
0   
16
18
26       
36
7
30
9
35        bet 35,36
27.          Bet 35,36,27,28
14.          Bet 35,36,27,28,14,15
4     bet 35,36,27,28,14,15,4,5
27.    Win. Retrack
-   -   -
8th       
14
14
5
13        bet 13,14
13        win
5
26       
12
33       
9
29       
28        bet 28 29
-   -   -
2        bet 28 29,2,3
25.         Bet 28,29,2,3,25 26
8       bet 28,29,2,3,25,26,8,9
11   bet 28,29,2,3,25,26,8,9,11,12
25.    Win . retrack
32
36
14
11       
28       
13        bet 13,14
13        win. Retrack
17       
24       
-   -   -
33       
1
25.        Bet 24,25
3.          Bet 24,25,3,4
16.        Bet 24,25,3,4,16,17
24        win. Retrack
2       
35       
16
18
-   -   -
34.          Bet 34,35
18.        Bet 34,35,18,19
26        bet 34,35,18,19,26,27
26.       Win

Results:
Bet cycle 1: +16
Bet cycle 2: +34
Bet cycle 3: +8
Bet cycle 4: +34
Bet cycle 5: +24
Bet cycle 7: +24
Total: 140

Not bad at all

[buffalowizard]

Thanks. Will continue this on.

[buffalowizard]

Table 3. 31.01.19. Wiesbaden

Ran through the whole day. Results speak for themselves. Havent been as bullish about a method as this in a long while. What exactly is the loss of a single 6 progression line Sparks? If betting on straight up numbers

35       
4       
5.        Bet 4,5
20       bet 4,5,20,21
18.      Bet 4,5,20,21,18,19
4        win
11       
10         bet 10,11
36.        Bet 10,11,36,0
14.         Bet 10,11,36,0,14,15
0           win
16
35       
34.            Bet 35,34
33           bet 35,34,32,33
4         bet 35,34,32,33,4,5
9.           Bet 35,34,32,33,4,5
26        bet 35,34,32,33,4,5,26,27
7.        Bet 35,34 32,33,4,5 26,27,7,8
7.             Win
16
35       
2       
7
2       
17               bet 16,17
32.             Bet 16,17,32,33
0           bet 16,17,32,33,0,1
-   -   -
7.          Bet 16,17,32,33,0,1,7,8
29    bet 16,17,32,33,0,1,7,8,29,30
21. Bet 16,17,32,33,0,1,7,8,29,30,21,22
23.        Loss
24       
29       
32
4       
23.   Bet 23,24
4        bet 23,24,4,5
3.       Bet 23,24,4,5,3,2
33        bet 23,24,4,5,3,2,33,34
18.     Bet 23,24,4,5,3,2,33,34,18,19
4        win
18
34
6       
19.       Bet 18,19
0        bet 18,19,0,1
6        bet 18 19,0,1,6,7
-   -   -
4     bet 18,19,0,1,6,7,4,5
25.   Bet 18,19,0,1,6,7,4,5,25,26
25.       Win
35       
12
10       
31       
5
13        bet 12,13
11        bet 12,13,11,10
11        win
16
0   
34
16
2       
30
32
24       
-   -   -
3.                 Bet 2,3
0            bet 2,3,0,12       
2.                Win
32
19
11       
4       
34
22       
33        bet 33,34
27.         Bet 33,34,27,28
25.    Bet 33,34,27,28,25,26
24        bet 33,34,27,28,25,26,24,25
25.        Win
33       
19
21
12
19
26       
20        bet 20,21
15        bet 20,21,15,16
23.         Bet 20,21,15,16,23,24
32.       Bet 20,21,15,16,23,24,32,33
-   -   -
7.         Bet 20,21,15,16,23,24,32,33,7,8
17bet20,21,15,16,23,24,32,33,7,8,17,18
29        loss
9
15       
33       
25
18
29       
28        bet 28,29
15        bet 28,29,15,16
9.         Bet 28,29,15,16,9,10
27.   Bet 28,29,15,16,9,10,27,28
32.   Bet 28,29,15,16,9,10,27,28,32,33
10        win
13       
8
33       
16
-   -   -
22       
19
25
2    
18.         Bet 18,19
7.        Bet 18,19,7,8
16.      Bet 18,19,7,8,16,17
16.         Win
11       
3
15       
14.     Bet 14,15
34.     Bet 14,15,34,35
25.     Bet 14,15,34,35,25,26
19.     Bet 14,15,34,35,25,26,19,20
31    bet 14,15,34,35,25,26,19,20,31 32
24 14,15,34,35,25,26,19,20,31,32,24,23
23.         Win
0   
31       
17       
33       
16.       Bet 16,17
8        bet 16,17,8,9
23.        Bet 16,17,8,9,23,24
33        bet 16,17,8,9,23,24,33,34
-   -   -
11        16,17,8,9,23 24,33,34,11,12
31    16,17,8,9,23,24,33,34,11,12,31 32
8.               Win
25
6       
18
11       
23
26        bet 25,26
12.         25,26,12,13
19.        25,26,12,13,19,20
14.      25,26,12,13,19,20,14,15
25.     Win
27
28        bet 27,28
8.            27,28,8,9
18.         27,28,8,9,18,19
10        27,28,8,9,18,19,10,11
-   -   -
9.             Win
18
2       
9
15       
8.          Bet 8,9   
0      8,9,0,1
16.      8,9,0,1,16,17
20        8,9,0,1,16,17,20,21
16.       Win
30
1
17       
24       
-   -   -
32
27
2        bet 1,2
28        1,2,28,29
8         1,2,28,29,8,9
15        1,2,28,29,8,9
11        1,2,28,29,8,9,11,12
1.        Win
26       
10       
19
11        bet 10,11
3.          10,11,3,4
-   -   -
21.         10,11,3,4,21,22
12.         10,11,3,4,21,22,12,13
3.        Win
15       
33       
15       
28       
23
5
8    
7.           Bet 7,8
30.        7,8,30,31
18.       7,8,30,31,18,19
-   -   -
1.         7,8,30,31,18,19,1,2
2        win
15       
34
32
12
0   
22       
29       
33        bet 33,34
20        33,34,20,21
19.           33,34,20,21,19,18
-   -   -
29        33,34,20,21,19,18,29,30
29        win
8   
12
8    
18
19.           Bet 18,19
35        18,19,35 36
9.             18,19,35,36,9,10
36.         Win
2       
-   -   -
31       
6       
18
26       
30.        Bet 30,31
27.        30,31,27,28
14.        30,31,27,28,14,15
13        30,31,27,28,14,15,13,12
30.       Win
25
12
19
15       
21
-   -   -
33       
30
3
15       
14.          Bet 14,15
7.           14,15,7,8
29        14,15,7,8,29,30
18.        14,15,7,8 29,30,18,19
27.     14,15,7,8,29,30,18,19,27,28
-   -   -
26    14,15,7,8,29,30,18,19,27.28,26,25
3.               Loss
2       
18
2       
23
7
31       
7
24        bet 23,24
6        23,24,6,7
3.         23,24,6,7,3,4
6        win
23
-   -   -
0   
7
11       
21
30
17       
19
17       
30
-   -   -
36.         Bet 36,0
11        36,0,11,12
30.        36,0,11,12,30,31
11        win
16
20       
29       
25
21.       Bet 20,21
29        20,21,29,30
3.          20,21,29,30,3,4
28        20,21,29,30,3,4,28,27
17       20,21,29,30,3,4,28,27,17,18
8.      20,21,29,30,3,4,28,27,17,18,8,9
-   -   -
1.             Loss
20       
36
7
25
34
0        bet 0,1
35        0,1,35, 36
30.       0,1,35,36,30,31
29        0,1,35,36,30,31,29,28
22        0,1,35,36,30,31,29,28,22,23
28       win
2       
19
7
31       
-   -   -
18.           Bet 18,19
8           18,19,8,9
27.        18,19,8,9,27,28
36.      18,19,8,9,27,28 36,0
10        18,19,8,9,27,28,36,0,10,11
36.       Win
30
1
36.         
4       
7
29        bet 29,30
27.        29,30,27,28
15        29,30,27,28,15,16
27.        Win
3
-   -   -
1
34
25
27
7
17       
20       
21.           Bet 20,21
16.         20,21,16,17
30.       20,21,16,17,30,31
26        20,21,16,17,30,31,26,27
22    20,21,16,17,30,31,26,27,22,23
11 20,21,16,17,30,31,26,27,22,23,11,12
-   -   -
22        win
7
20       
3
8        bet 7,8
25.        7,8,25,26
27.        7,8,25,26,27,28
28        win
27
2       
      
      
      
      
      
      
      

[buffalowizard]

I make that +644 on the wins,

But how much would the 4 losses incur?

Anyway, thanks for the idea. I hope it picks up some traction

BW

[Mako]

I make that +644 on the wins,

But how much would the 4 losses incur?

Anyway, thanks for the idea. I hope it picks up some traction

BW

I glanced at this quickly, forgive me if I'm off, but each loss using the 1-1-1-1-2-2 progression = -64u.

So for yours BW, you had 4x losses with 28x wins, so 4 x- 64u = -256u.  If your estimate of +644u on the total of the wins is correct, your net would come out to +388u.

Fun way to play, easy enough that you could enjoy your adult beverage comps for once without f-ing the entire thing up...

[buffalowizard]

I glanced at this quickly, forgive me if I'm off, but each loss using the 1-1-1-1-2-2 progression = -64u.

So for yours BW, you had 4x losses with 28x wins, so 4 x- 64u = -256u.  If your estimate of +644u on the total of the wins is correct, your net would come out to +388u.

Fun way to play, easy enough that you could enjoy your adult beverage comps for once without f-ing the entire thing up...

Thanks Mako, I assumed it was a winning day and you're right, it is fun to test and track - I also like the way that the zero is incorporated into the method too!
I'll definitely be doing some more trials and take it to BM soon

[buffalowizard]

  352 spins

+388 units

Not bad strike rate