Vaddis Holy Grail

[Turkish4]

New session........not so easy this one

9
33       
--   --   --
       21
17       
       16
       36
31       
4       
17       
       25
29       
       34
       32
       19
6       
22       
35       
24       
--   --   --
       9              bet 9
15                       9,33,
       18           9,33,21
       3             9,33,21,17
       27           9,33,21,17,16
13                      9,33,21,17,16,36
       34           9,33,21,17,16,36,31
22                       9,33,21,17,16,36,31,4
13                      9,33,21,17,16,36,31,4,25
8                      9,33,21,17,16,36,31,4,25,29
       18           9,33,21,17,16,36,31,4,25,29,34
13                      9,33,21,17,16,36,31,4,25,29,34,32
       30           9,33,21,17,16,36,31,4,25,29,34,32,19
28                      9,33,21,17,16,36,31,4,25,29,34,32,19,6
22                      9,33,21,17,16,36,31,4,25,29,34,32,19,6,22
24                      9,33,21,17,16,36,31,4,25,29,34,32,19,6,22,35
20                      9,33,21,17,16,36,31,4,25,29,34,32,19,6,22,35,24
10                      9,33,21,17,16,36,31,4,25,29,34,32,19,6,22,35,24,15
--   --   --
29                      win, holy shit that was a run from hell! -135.....bet 29
15                      bet 29,34
       16          29,34,32
       5            29,34,32,19
       12          29,34,32,19,6
       27          29,34,32,19,6,22
28                     29,34,32,19,6,22,35
       3            29,34,32,19,6,22,35,24
       9           29,34,32,19,6,22,35,24,9
       32         win -143........bet 32
2                    bet 32
26                    32,19
       18         32,19,6
28                    32,19,6,22
       16          32,19,6,22,35
       14           32,19,6,22,35,24
24                     win -127, ........bet 24
       1            24,20
       19          24,20,10
--   --   --
33                     24,20,10,29
       5            24,20,10,29,15
24                    win -105, .......bet 24
       21         24,1
       16         24,1,19
       3           24,1,19,33
4                    24,1,19,33,5
       36        24,1,19,33,5,21
       1           win -89, ..........bet 1
   0                1,19
       18        1,19,33
       3          1,19,33,5
       9           1,19,33,5,24
20                    1,19,33,5,24,21
28                    1,19,33,5,24,21,16
--   --   --
20                    1,19,33,5,24,21,16,3
       30        1,19,33,5,24,21,16,3,4
       12        1,19,33,5,24,21,16,3,4,36
       23         1,19,33,5,24,21,16,3,4,36,0
13                    1,19,33,5,24,21,16,3,4,36,0,18
29                    1,19,33,5,24,21,16,3,4,36,0,18,9
5                           1,19,33,5,24,21,16,3,4,36,0,18,3,20
       3           win -158.........bet 3
8                    3,9
--   --   --
       34         3,9,20
22                    3,9,20,28
29                    3,9,20,28,30
       12         3,9,20,28,30,12
       9           win -142.......bet 9
2                    9,20
29                    9,20,28
       1          9,20,28,30
       7          9,20,28,30,12
29                   9,20,28,30,12,23
       12        win -126.........bet 12
--   --   --
       12        win -90...........bet 12         
24                   bet 12,24
28                   12,24,28
       7          12,24,28,7
       27        12,24,28,7,27
4                    12,24,28,7,27,4
       27        win -74...bet 27
       16        27,4
       36        27,4,16
--   --   --
6                   27,4,16,36
8                   27,4,16,36,6
       16       win -52..........bet 16
       25       16,36
       3          16,36,6
10                   16,36,6,8
17                   16,36,6,8,25
15                   16,36,6,8,25,3
       32        16,36,6,8,25,3,10
       7          16,36,6,8,25,3,10,17
35                   16,36,6,8,25,3,10,17,15
--   --   --
20                    16,36,6,8,25,3,10,17,15,32
       23         16,36,6,8,25,3,10,17,15,32,7
16                         win -82

I think the distance between the first repeat of 9 is too wide hence probably not the best idea for that to be your trigger.

Perhaps a repeat to fall within 8 spins then we use BBB’s method?

[Bigbroben]

Feel free to test!

Here the simulation ends at 1000 spins.  Happy with this first test. Some tweaking, sure, but still promising.

[Proofreaders2000]

One more idea 
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---*Three Even Chance Singles Builder*---

Procedure: Track for either pattern: E,O,O,O or O,E,E,E

Start the stepping sequence with the last decision.  Add the
spin-value with each new outcome.  If all eight numbers miss, end session.

Example: 21,2,34,8 (newest spin-value)-qualifier

Bet #8:        1.) 25(x)-1

Bet 8,25:     2.) 0(x)-2

Bet 8,25,0....

[jono1167]

New session........not so easy this one
                      
--   --   --
29                      win, holy shit that was a run from hell! -135.....

1,19,33,5,24,21,16,3,4,36
       23         1,19,33,5,24,21,16,3,4,36,0
13                    1,19,33,5,24,21,16,3,4,36,0,18
29                    1,19,33,5,24,21,16,3,4,36,0,18,9
5                           1,19,33,5,24,21,16,3,4,36,0,18,3,20
       3           win -158.........bet 3
8                    3,9
--   --   --
       34         3,9,20
22                    3,9,20,28
29                    3,9,20,28,30
       12         3,9,20,28,30,12
       9           win -142.......bet 9
2                    9,20
29                    9,20,28
       1          9,20,28,30
       7          9,20,28,30,12
29                   9,20,28,30,12,23
       12        win -126.........bet 12
--   --   --
       12        win -90...........bet 12         
24                   bet 12,24
28                   12,24,28
       7          12,24,28,7
       27        12,24,28,7,27
4                    12,24,28,7,27,4
       27        win -74...bet 27
       16        27,4
       36        27,4,16
--   --   --
6                   27,4,16,36
8                   27,4,16,36,6
       16       win -52..........bet 16
       25       16,36
       3          16,36,6
10                   16,36,6,8
17                   16,36,6,8,25
15                   16,36,6,8,25,3
       32        16,36,6,8,25,3,10
       7          16,36,6,8,25,3,10,17
35                   16,36,6,8,25,3,10,17,15
--   --   --
20                    16,36,6,8,25,3,10,17,15,32
       23         16,36,6,8,25,3,10,17,15,32,7
16                         win -82

I can’t keep up with all the great info on this forum.

Buffalo, good work on posting that -82 result. It’s good to see everything get published even if it’s not that flattering. 

I guess I’ll jump in on the end of everyone’s good work and collect a few test spins myself.

[jono1167]

35   
      25   
8   
26   
     30   
20   
4   
8   
35   Bet 35
0   35, 25
10   35, 25, 8
36   35, 25, 8, 26
6   35, 25, 8, 26, 30
12   35, 25, 8, 26, 30, 20
9   35, 25, 8, 26, 30, 20, 4
35   35, 25, 8, 26, 30, 20, 4, 0
(win+1)

32   35
1   35, 0
8   35, 0, 10
27   35, 0, 10, 36
9   35, 0, 10, 36, 6
36   35, 0, 10, 36, 6, 9 (win 16)

11   Bet 36
34   36, 6
17   36, 6, 12
18   36, 6, 12, 9
22   36, 6, 12, 9
4   36, 6, 12, 9, 35, 32
18   36, 6, 12, 9, 35, 32, 1
30   36, 6, 12, 9, 35, 32, 1, 8
6   36, 6, 12, 9, 35, 32, 1, 8, 27
(win +7)

21   Bet 6
19   6, 12
12   6, 12, 9

(win +37)
Bet 12
15   12, 9
24   12, 9, 35
8   6, 12, 35, 32
(win +53)

32   Bet 9
19   9, 35
29   9, 35, 32
15   9, 35, 32, 1
12   9, 35, 32, 1, 8
35   9, 35, 32, 1, 8, 27
(win +78)

21   Bet 35
5   35, 32
25   35, 32, 8
7   35, 32, 1, 8, 27
24   35, 32, 1, 8, 27, 9
22   35, 32, 1, 8, 27, 9, 36
20   35, 32, 1, 8, 27, 9, 36, 11
29   35, 32, 1, 8, 27, 9, 36, 11, 34
31   35, 32, 1, 8, 27, 9, 36, 11, 34
10   35, 32, 1, 8, 27, 9, 36, 11, 34, 17
26   35, 32, 1, 8, 27, 9, 36, 11, 34, 17, 18
5   35, 32, 1, 8, 27, 9, 36, 11, 34, 17, 18, 22
29   35, 32, 1, 8, 27, 9, 36, 11, 34, 17, 18, 22, 4
33   35, 32, 1, 8, 27, 9, 36, 11, 34, 17, 18, 22, 4, 30
24   35, 32, 1, 8, 27, 9, 36, 11, 34, 17, 18, 22, 4, 30, 6
14   35, 32, 1, 8, 27, 9, 36, 11, 34, 17, 18, 22, 4, 30, 6, 21
14   35, 32, 1, 8, 27, 9, 36, 11, 34, 17, 18, 22, 4, 30, 6, 21, 19
27   35, 32, 1, 8, 27, 9, 36, 11, 34, 17, 18, 22, 4, 30, 6, 21, 19, 27 (win -71)


After a really good start, I finished with a horror run, 18 misses.

I feel as though I started this last betting sequence too far back. Following the rules, I had to go back 27 spins to begin the sequence.

I wonder if it would work better waiting for the repeat to occur in the first 10 spins before beginning?

[buffalowizard]

I think the distance between the first repeat of 9 is too wide hence probably not the best idea for that to be your trigger.

Perhaps a repeat to fall within 8 spins then we use BBB’s method?

This was my thought Turkish as I was testing it. Sometimes it feels the repeats are so far apart, they become a little too arbitrary.

[Turkish4]

This was my thought Turkish as I was testing it. Sometimes it feels the repeats are so far apart, they become a little too arbitrary.

Agreed! I’m just wondering when do you switch to include the pairings if your doubles don’t drop

As vaddi says if doubles aren’t dropping then singles are. How do you tailor an 8 chip bet to “balance” it all?

I’m still confused over the whole 24/8=3 and 12/4=3 and how it can tailor into the bet. As passion says it’s the key apparently.

[Elite]

No strategy I guess work on roulette

[boyd30]

I tried short BB's system yesterday on RX. Both more than 8 numbers and maximum 8 numbers. There was success but It was also down to near - 200.

[Bigbroben]

I only tried 1000 spins.  The results were great, but it can still be put on luck's fault.

It is possible that if the reference number is too far back, it should be waited for closer gaps.

Overall, it's just an idea!

[Elite]

i think, no one able to get vaadi idea, or may be vaadi himself realized later his system not much worth. i dont think he tested his system enough before giving clues, my observation is ,each day , roulette numbers  comes differently.After 36 spins, 12 doubles 12 sleepers etc are same , but ranges vary  each cycle,

[Elite]

may b if take his clues line by line and disucss and analyze until crystal clear, then may b we can reach , what he want to say or convery ,i just heard there is holygrail of roulette, but what is that with 8 numbers bet, moreover, my interst in his last clues where he say he will not reveal his simple betting method, due to abc.... reasons, then the  betting gameplay he given , what was that , are those all clues hidden in his betting play , or something, useless portrayed

[Elite]

its some sort of frustration  from my side, plz keep it up,

[jono1167]

I only tried 1000 spins.  The results were great, but it can still be put on luck's fault.

It is possible that if the reference number is too far back, it should be waited for closer gaps.

Overall, it's just an idea!

Hi Ben

Thanks for all of your work on this system and, as always for sharing your information freely.

I’m not even close to giving up on this method and I will keep testing today.

With the next testing session I will make sure the reference number doesn’t fall too far back. My final session yesterday I had a series of 18 misses, but this came after I began the string 27 spins back.

Cheers Ben, I’ll post results later.

[Mako]

Hi Ben

Thanks for all of your work on this system and, as always for sharing your information freely.

I’m not even close to giving up on this method and I will keep testing today.

With the next testing session I will make sure the reference number doesn’t fall too far back. My final session yesterday I had a series of 18 misses, but this came after I began the string 27 spins back.

Cheers Ben, I’ll post results later.

Agree, it's definitely worth pursuing, looks very promising. 

I'm not stopping work on the statue...Ben says he wants it to basically look like Michelangelo's 'David', but with a penis 3x as large to make it more accurate.