Vaddis Holy Grail

[jono1167]

Jono, on the chart you posted, what was your nr source?

Ben, I used a Roulette Simulator app. I did the testing manually over a few days.

[Irish88]

Irish, good question, let me clarify. For the completed test, this is the rule I followed... I will expand your example so it's clear....

First spin: Hit #23. Bet numbers 22-24.
Second spin: Hit #15. Bet numbers 22-24, 14-16.
Third spin: Hit #31. Bet numbers 22-24, 14-16, 30-32.
Fourth spin: Hit#8. Bet numbers 22-24, 14-16, 30-32, 7-9.
Fifth spin: Hit #23 (Repeat). Bet numbers 22-(23)-24, 14-(15)-16, 30-32, 7-9.

My rule is that I have to add two numbers every spin. Because 23 repeated, I bet 23. Then I bet the second earliest number 15.

Let me know if this isn't clear.....

Having just explained all of that, I believe this is the part of the system which could easily be tweaked. I'll post what I have in mind tomorrow, however, for the sake of keeping the testing consistent, stick to this rule. It has obviously worked pretty well so far....!

Thanks Irish

Ok thank you for the explanation. It helps out a lot. Once you get a repeater you include that repeat and the number after the first time the repeated number appeared?

Example
8
17
24
34
8

So you would add 8 and 17 into the group of numbers.

I ran a test on RS and was down significantly because of the repeaters and not knowing how to apply them. Will try again. Thank you Jono for yours posts. Much appreciated.

[jono1167]

Jono, on the chart you posted, what was your nr source?

Very similar results to yours Ben....

[Bigbroben]

I know.  I'm happy with the results but still think it is luck.  The underlying idea it worth investigating, of course.

[luckyfella]

And why should that work better than just guessing?  Where's the logic?

Hey General, I was merely guessing. Yup just plain no brainer guessing every spin.

The logic, General ?
Play this guessing game 1000times, then post the nicest chart on forum just for you General. There you have it, the logic. Try it

[jono1167]

Ok thank you for the explanation. It helps out a lot. Once you get a repeater you include that repeat and the number after the first time the repeated number appeared?

Example
8
17
24
34
8

So you would add 8 and 17 into the group of numbers.

I ran a test on RS and was down significantly because of the repeaters and not knowing how to apply them. Will try again. Thank you Jono for yours posts. Much appreciated.

Original Example
First spin: Hit #23. Bet numbers 22-24.
Second spin: Hit #15. Bet numbers 22-24, 14-16.
Third spin: Hit #31. Bet numbers 22-24, 14-16, 30-32.
Fourth spin: Hit#8. Bet numbers 22-24, 14-16, 30-32, 7-9.
Fifth spin: Hit #23 (Repeat). Bet numbers 22-(23)-24, 14-(15)-16, 30-32, 7-9.

Sorry Irish, I'm getting confused now. So, in the example I gave, #23 repeats on the fifth spin. Numbers 22 and 24 are already taken (as per the Vaddi neighbors rule). Because #23 has come out again I place the chip on #23 which is currently vacant. I need to place one more chip, so I place it between #14 and #16. Hopefully this is clearer....

[luckyfella]

And why should that work better than just guessing?  Where's the logic?

Hey General, I played another 100spins on top of that first 100spins. It's a lot harder! Guess what ? I got luckier still. Luckyfella for a reason, specially for you General.

[Proofreaders2000]

And why should that work better than just guessing?  Where's the logic?

Ease of play, looked good in early tests...

[luckyfella]

And why should that work better than just guessing?  Where's the logic?

Yo General, 100spins more on top of the earlier 200spins. That's my guessing game. That's the 3segments of 100spins each, just for you 

[Proofreaders2000]

Ease of play, looked good in early tests...

Moreover, a bettor goes to a B&M Roulette
table, the dealer offers 10 seconds to place a bet. 

According to Vaddi, the system
uses the newest outcome, repeat single(s)

and easy enough for a 10 year old to understand.
(That's my aim)

[Proofreaders2000]

Also remember the bet selection (according to Vaddi) has to
be a multiple of 24--and will bring the bankroll back to break even.

Example: nine number bet misses three
consecutive times but hits on the fourth attempt=break even.

Example two: the stepped sequence bet: misses
1,2,3,4,5,6,7, hits when eight numbers are played=break even

A one number, two number, three number, four number, six, nine &
12 number flat-bet selection can bring the balance back to break even.

[Proofreaders2000]

New idea

Track last seven outcomes: Red
or Black which is the minority? (ignore zeros)

Bet the minority numbers with a Vaddi
pair.  Repeat steps with each new spin-value.

Stop on a win or a drawdown of -36 units.

Example: 12,31,4,17,9,18,19 (newest spin-value)

Since Black is in the minority bet 31,32,4,5,17,18 once.

[Maui13]

First of all, thanks to everyone for testing and sharing.

I don't know if I'm playing this right, and it seems that there has been so many chops and changes, I'm a little confused.

I think BBB should create his own post - and in the very first post , please explain how you are currently now playing it.

I get the whole bet selection, I understand that it's flat betting,  but sadly my results aren't that positive. That's why I want clarification.

I've scrolled back through some of the pages, and then you  1+/-1 on the last 4 hit numbers, then you bet +2/-2 , then some weird combiantion of neighbors.

So all I would like to know - what is the current method that is performing the best.

Thanks in advance.

PS - I'd like to share my results too, so would like to confirm the above.

[ice789]

First of all, thanks to everyone for testing and sharing.

I don't know if I'm playing this right, and it seems that there has been so many chops and changes, I'm a little confused.

I think BBB should create his own post - and in the very first post , please explain how you are currently now playing it.

I get the whole bet selection, I understand that it's flat betting,  but sadly my results aren't that positive. That's why I want clarification.

I've scrolled back through some of the pages, and then you  1+/-1 on the last 4 hit numbers, then you bet +2/-2 , then some weird combiantion of neighbors.

So all I would like to know - what is the current method that is performing the best.

Thanks in advance.

PS - I'd like to share my results too, so would like to confirm the above.

pls check your pm

[Bigbroben]

I get the whole bet selection, I understand that it's flat betting,  but sadly my results aren't that positive. That's why I want clarification.

I've scrolled back through some of the pages, and then you  1+/-1 on the last 4 hit numbers, then you bet +2/-2 , then some weird combiantion of neighbors.

So all I would like to know - what is the current method that is performing the best.

PS - I'd like to share my results too, so would like to confirm the above.

Hi Maui,

I've run 2 different tests.
The first one, which I call '' follow the wheel'', basically plays the nrs out with an offset equal to the gap between the lat repeater.
Say the nrs 16, 18, 2, 35, 26, 4, 17, 33, 2 came out.
I'd play 2, then 2 35, then 2 35 26, then 2 35 26 4...
I did two tests on that one.

As for the other one, alike the one Jono ran, it's playing the +1/-1 pair of last 4 nrs and add them as they come.  Only one test done.

The 1u on nr and 1u on higher and lower split, I did not do any trial on that one.  It was simply a bet proposal.  A method can be developped on it.  Not done yet.

I like that this appears on Vaddi's thread, for it is what inspires the testing.  I reckon there are now quite a few pages to read through!

Thanks for watching!