Vaddis Holy Grail

[Mako]

Nice, thanks Jono, I wasn't doing a few of the details you mentioned, will retest. 

[jono1167]

Nice, thanks Jono, I wasn't doing a few of the details you mentioned, will retest. 

Good luck Mako, I'm worried other people aren't getting good results too.  I will use a different roulette simulator next time I run a set of tests. I'm already running a new set of tests, but it's on the same roulette simulator. I won't change halfway through though....

[jono1167]

Further analyses of yesterday's chart.

1000 spins consisted of 182 individual betting strings. A hit, either positive or negative, resulted in the end of the string and the start of a new string.

A hit after 2 spins (+34) occurred 11 times (374 units total)
A hit after 3 spins (+30) occurred 29 times (870 units total)
A hit after 4 spins (+24) occurred 26 times (624 units total)
A hit after 5 spins (+16) occurred 35 times (560 units total)
A hit after 6 spins (+6) occurred 19 times (114 units total)
A hit after 7 spins (-6) occurred 28 times (-168 units total)
A hit after 8 spins (-20) occurred 17 times (-340 units total)
A hit after 9 spins (-36) occurred 11 times (-396 units total)
A hit after 10 spins (-54) occurred 4 times (-216 units total)
A hit after 11 spins (-74) occurred 5 times (-375 units total)
A hit after 12 spins (-96) occurred 0 times ( units total)


TABLE OF HITS (Reference)
If a hit occurs on 2nd spin    +34 units
If a hit occurs on 3rd spin    +30 units
If a hit occurs on 4th spin    +24 units
If a hit occurs on 5th spin    +16 units
If a hit occurs on 6th Spin    +6  units
If a hit occurs on 7th spin    -6  units
If a hit occurs on 8th spin    -20 units
If a hit occurs on 9th spin    -36 units
If a hit occurs on 10th spin   -54 units
If a hit occurs on 11th spin   -74 units
If a hit occurs on 12th spin   -96 units (This never occurred during the 1000 spin test)

[Proofreaders2000]

Both Bigbroben and Jono1167 have
created systems that win more than lose      

(according to their charts)

The question is is it Vaddi's system?
(We may never know.)

[jono1167]

Both Bigbroben and Jono1167 have
created systems that win more than lose      

(according to their charts)

The question is is it Vaddi's system?
(We may never know.)

Proof, I had you down as a huge contributor too..... More BBB than me anyway, I can't claim the credit (or take the blame!)

Good results on a simulator app are one thing..... Until the results are replicated at a casino, I think we should remain very cautious. Certainly nothing wrong with a healthy dose of skepticism!

[Gitano]

Quick follow up thought, I really feel that Vaddi didn't mean pairs in terms of the pair list he provided.  He wanted us to ignore the deception of the randomized wheel layout, put them back into pair order basically.  To me that's always meant that the 0 on the wheel is 0 in Vaddi's list, but the 32 on the wheel is the "1" on his provided list.

And since he mentions going foward, it has to mean going forward on the wheel, not the table, because really who cares about the table layout?  Why would that affect anything?

So if the pairs list is the wheel, and the wheel has been randomized by the creator to fool us, in my mind that always meant the real pairs list that Vaddi refers to is this (single 0 wheel):

0 | 32
32 | 15
15 | 19
19 | 4
4 | 21
21 | 2
2 | 25
25 | 17
17 | 34
34 | 6
6 | 27
27 | 13
13 | 36
36 | 11
11 | 30
30 | 8
8 | 23
23 | 10
10 | 5
5  |24
24 | 16
16 | 33
33 | 1
1  |20
20 | 14
14 | 31
31 | 9
9 | 22
22 | 18
18 | 29
29 | 7
7 | 28
28 | 12
12 | 35
35 | 3
3 | 26
26 | 0

So has it provided a superior outcome using wheel pairs instead of table pairs in testing? No.  I'm missing whatever secret sauce that everyone else is apparently, as betting wheel pairs hasn't been successful over time for me.

All of this is a guess, but I feel Vaddi gave the pairs list so easily just because it wasn't the actual list.  He wanted people to go to the wheel instead.

I like sooo much this idea!!  ...Using last four spins..

15 -> 32,19
8 -> 30, 23
14-> 20,31
29-> 18,7
18->Win
For me these are the pairs..and I think in good results too..

[jono1167]

Quick follow up thought, I really feel that Vaddi didn't mean pairs in terms of the pair list he provided.  He wanted us to ignore the deception of the randomized wheel layout, put them back into pair order basically.  To me that's always meant that the 0 on the wheel is 0 in Vaddi's list, but the 32 on the wheel is the "1" on his provided list.

And since he mentions going foward, it has to mean going forward on the wheel, not the table, because really who cares about the table layout?  Why would that affect anything?

So if the pairs list is the wheel, and the wheel has been randomized by the creator to fool us, in my mind that always meant the real pairs list that Vaddi refers to is this (single 0 wheel):

0 | 32
32 | 15
15 | 19
19 | 4
4 | 21
21 | 2
2 | 25
25 | 17
17 | 34
34 | 6
6 | 27
27 | 13
13 | 36
36 | 11
11 | 30
30 | 8
8 | 23
23 | 10
10 | 5
5  |24
24 | 16
16 | 33
33 | 1
1  |20
20 | 14
14 | 31
31 | 9
9 | 22
22 | 18
18 | 29
29 | 7
7 | 28
28 | 12
12 | 35
35 | 3
3 | 26
26 | 0

So has it provided a superior outcome using wheel pairs instead of table pairs in testing? No.  I'm missing whatever secret sauce that everyone else is apparently, as betting wheel pairs hasn't been successful over time for me.

All of this is a guess, but I feel Vaddi gave the pairs list so easily just because it wasn't the actual list.  He wanted people to go to the wheel instead.

Sorry Mako, definitely test these pairs on another 1000 spin sequence. It will be good to compare results.

[Mister Eko]

I like sooo much this idea!!  ...Using last four spins..

15 -> 32,19
8 -> 30, 23
14-> 20,31
29-> 18,7
18->Win
For me these are the pairs..and I think in good results too..

Tested in 5 spins and still winning? I wanna buy it.

[Proofreaders2000]

np Jono1167 
==============================
Test: Mako's Pairs @ Jackpot Capital European
Wheel-Tuesday, February 19,2019 @ 6:53pm CST USA

...8,3,15,21 (newest spin-value)

Bet 8,23     3,26      15,19     21,2  once:      1.) 11(x)-8

Bet 3,26     15,19     21,2     11,30 once:      2.) 27(x)-8

Bet 15,19     21,2     11,20     27,13 once:    3.) 5(x)-8

Bet 21,2     11,20     27,13     5,24 once:      4.) 24(win)+28
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+4

[Bigbroben]

Obviously, wheel pairs  must be used with wheel, whereas rng nrs are ok for table pairs?

[Proofreaders2000]

Obviously, wheel pairs  must be used with wheel, whereas rng nrs are ok for table pairs?

Apparently you're right Bigbroben.  Mako Pairs didn't work at BV RNG.

[Proofreaders2000]

Test: Mako Pairs @ Vegas2Web European Wheel-
Tuesday, February 19,2019 @ 7:43pm CST USA

....2,35,32,17 (newest spin-value)

Bet 2,25,35,3,32,15,17,34:       1.) 0(x)-8

Bet 35,3,32,15,17,34,0,32:       2.) 24(x)-8

Bet 32,15,17,34,0,32,24,16:     3.) 4(x)-8

Bet 17,34,0,32,24,16,4,21:       4.) 0(win)+32
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+4

[Gitano]

Hi all,
why using only the right pairs? I would consider the Left and right pairs! for the newest 4 spins , so it gives 12 #s to bet including the lasts four.
I manually tested for a thousand airball spins (RNG is falsehood ) and it win in the very few next spins!Awesome.. I'llbuild an excel definitively!

[Proofreaders2000]

New idea
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Note the newest consecutive High/Low singles.

Bet those two and their respective
Vaddi pairs*until a new trigger emerges.

Stop on a win or after nine consecutive misses.

Example: 21,9,18 (newest spin-value)

Bet 9,10,18,19:      1.) 31(x)-4

Bet 9,10,18,19:      2.) 26(x)-4*

Bet 31,32,26,27:    3.) 35(x)-4

*If three or more consecutive High singles (or
Low singles show) bet the newest two w/Vaddi pairs.

(In the case above bet 26,27,35,36)

[Proofreaders2000]

v1.1
==============================
Note the newest consecutive High/Low singles.

Bet those two and their respective Vaddi pairs
(the same four numbers) for up to nine spins.

Example: 21,9,12 (newest spin-value)

Bet 9,10,12,13 for up to nine spins.  Stop on a win.