Vaddis Holy Grail

[jono1167]

SUMMARY SO FAR

2505 spins with a profit of 1,845 units.



18 Feb - 1000 spins with a profit of +927 units. All flat bet.
20 Feb - 500 spins with a profit of +590 units. (Experimented briefly with progression to nullify losses)
25 Feb - 502 spins for -138 loss. All flat bet.
27 Feb - 503 spins for 466 units of profit. All flat bet.

A hit after 2 spins occurred 28 times (+34)
A hit after 3 spins occurred 60 times  (+30)
A hit after 4 spins occurred 59 times (+24)
A hit after 5 spins occurred 72 times (+16)
A hit after 6 spins occurred 69 times (+6) 
A hit after 7 spins occurred 60 times (-6) 
A hit after 8 spins occurred 39 times (-20)
A hit after 9 spins occurred 36 times (-36)
A hit after 10 spins occurred 19 times (-54)
A hit after 11 spins occurred 7 times (-74)
A hit after 12 spins occurred 1 time (-96)
A hit after 13 spins occurred 0 times (-120)
A hit after 14 spins occurred 0 times (-146)

The figures above reveal most hits occur between spins 3 and 8. Can this be exploited?

The results so far are encouraging. Even the failed game wasn't a complete disaster, it was only a 138 unit loss. This has easily been offset by the wins. I will be worried if I record a 600 - 700 unit loss over 500 spins.

Back to testing......

[nottophammer]

The figures above reveal most hits occur between spins 3 and 8. Can this be exploited?

Ask Nimo about his old drinking vessel spins 1-10 believe he said easy 100 units

[buffalowizard]

SUMMARY SO FAR

2505 spins with a profit of 1,845 units.



18 Feb - 1000 spins with a profit of +927 units. All flat bet.
20 Feb - 500 spins with a profit of +590 units. (Experimented briefly with progression to nullify losses)
25 Feb - 502 spins for -138 loss. All flat bet.
27 Feb - 503 spins for 466 units of profit. All flat bet.

A hit after 2 spins occurred 28 times (+34)
A hit after 3 spins occurred 60 times  (+30)
A hit after 4 spins occurred 59 times (+24)
A hit after 5 spins occurred 72 times (+16)
A hit after 6 spins occurred 69 times (+6) 
A hit after 7 spins occurred 60 times (-6) 
A hit after 8 spins occurred 39 times (-20)
A hit after 9 spins occurred 36 times (-36)
A hit after 10 spins occurred 19 times (-54)
A hit after 11 spins occurred 7 times (-74)
A hit after 12 spins occurred 1 time (-96)
A hit after 13 spins occurred 0 times (-120)
A hit after 14 spins occurred 0 times (-146)

The figures above reveal most hits occur between spins 3 and 8. Can this be exploited?

The results so far are encouraging. Even the failed game wasn't a complete disaster, it was only a 138 unit loss. This has easily been offset by the wins. I will be worried if I record a 600 - 700 unit loss over 500 spins.

Back to testing......

Maybe only bet between 3 spins and 7 spins as they are the most active.?

[jono1167]

Maybe only bet between 3 spins and 7 spins as they are the most active.?

It would be worth testing Buffalo. See below.

Spin 1: No Bet
Spin 2: -2     
Spin 3: -6
Spin 4: -12
Spin 5: -20
Spin 6: -30
Spin 7: -42

Quitting after 7 spins is an automatic -42 loss. However, sticking around a bit longer isn't necessarily a guarantee of success. Eg, a win after 10 spins is a 54 unit loss.

Thanks Notto, we'll track down Mako. He always very helpful .

[Irish88]

[quote author = Elite link = topic = 15824.msg223740 # msg223740 date = 1551283308]
HI Passion thanks for info, hope to hear more on 24/8, 12/3 and pairing, is pairing should be sequential or how, thanks man
[/ quote]

You already know what is 24/8 and 12/4 right?
Now you know that and he says you look at the marquee, the marquee has 8-12 numbers right?
So in 12 turns, for example, do we know what happens? And in 24? And in 36?
Because vaddis talks about even turns 4-8-12-24-36.
Has he fixed you ... 4-12, 8-24, 12-36?
I just want you to see it for there, because even some who believe they are doing vaddis do not, they only found balance in a complete cycle, but the marquee is only 12 ...

4/12=1/3
8/24=1/3
12/36=1/3

Law of the third

24 numbers land
12 doubles
12/13 unhits

The marquee holds 12 numbers (I think it's actually 16 where I play) One half of the numbers that will theoretically hit or close too. Are you implying just to start with the 12 numbers on the board?

[Turkish4]

[quote author = Elite link = topic = 15824.msg223740 # msg223740 date = 1551283308]
HI Passion thanks for info, hope to hear more on 24/8, 12/3 and pairing, is pairing should be sequential or how, thanks man
[/ quote]

You already know what is 24/8 and 12/4 right?
Now you know that and he says you look at the marquee, the marquee has 8-12 numbers right?
So in 12 turns, for example, do we know what happens? And in 24? And in 36?
Because vaddis talks about even turns 4-8-12-24-36.
Has he fixed you ... 4-12, 8-24, 12-36?
I just want you to see it for there, because even some who believe they are doing vaddis do not, they only found balance in a complete cycle, but the marquee is only 12 ...

I’m not sure if I really get this 24/8 and 12/4 but here goes.

The marquee that I play on holds 12 numbers so for every 12 numbers:
4 numbers are repeats
4 numbers are new singles

That being said at the start of the cycle it’ll mostly be new numbers with the possibility of 1 or 2 repeats in the first 12. The repeats should come in the spins 13-36.

So hence if you see 8 numbers without a repeat you start stage 1 hoping to catch the repeat. But when that fails you start betting either the vaddi table pair or the wheel pair?

Question is does the pair target repeats or new singles? My Guess is that it would be targeting repeats? Because if not you would be hitting repeats in stage 1

So do you bet the pairs if the first four numbers on the marquee is +/- 1 of a number currently shown or that appeared before?

[Kan@am@]

4 on repeaters and 4 on singles.
hit on repeater - bet 2 on repeaters and 6 on singles
hit on repeater - bet 1 on repeaters and 7 on singles.

the same applies to the hits on singles.
basically adjustments made after each hit on repeater or single.
while testing I made over 1000 units than reached -200 and didn't had a profit in 8 spin cycles of 37 spins.According to Vaddis instructions profit should be made mach earlier.
Hope this info will help .

[Proofreaders2000]

After analyzing 12 outcomes at first glance
only four of the 12 repeated in the next 24 spins.

Which brings me to this:

You could do a waker of the 12 outcomes on a marquee.  When any of the 12 shows
again bet those numbers (and add each new repeat single from that 12 as they show). 

Stop on a win or a drawdown of -36 units.

[Proofreaders2000]

Test: "Waker Repeater Theory" @ Intertops Red Casino
American Wheel-Wednesday, February 27,2019 @ 10:08pm CST USA

...6,6,20,27,12,12,15,22,25,26,25,18
(newest spin-value)-the 12 numbers

Track until one (or more) of the 12 above
numbers repeat.  Bet that number continuously.

Stop on a win or after a drawdown of -36 units.

...13,26 (trigger)

Bet #26:    1.) 36(x)-1               2.) 33(x)-1               3.) 33(x)-1

4.) 22(x)-1*new trigger number

Bet 26,22:    5.) 7(x)-2               6.) 35(x)-2               7.) 21(x)-2

8.) 3(x)-2               9.) 3(x)-2               10.) 30(x)-2

11.) 1(x)-2               12.) 22(win)+34
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
+16

[Still]

Good work Still. I was quite confused but I decided to go with the lesser figure.

Sorry, I should clarify, after a win, I always put through a blank spin, get the result and then commence betting. The 'blank spin' I count as spin one. A win on spin two means +34 units etc....

i now have Buffalo Wizards demonstration of your system in an Excel sheet and it looks like it reached 170 units with a high of 247 over 314 spins.  It appears my sheet is working correctly, so if people just want to post some Wiesbaden spins, i can process them pretty quickly.  No more need for manual testing this one.  I just have to figure out how to get charts from my online Microsoft Office to this website.  If you still have your spin data and want to post them up in a text document, i'll double check everything.

[Elite]

[quote author = Elite link = topic = 15824.msg223740 # msg223740 date = 1551283308]
HI Passion thanks for info, hope to hear more on 24/8, 12/3 and pairing, is pairing should be sequential or how, thanks man
[/ quote]

You already know what is 24/8 and 12/4 right?
Now you know that and he says you look at the marquee, the marquee has 8-12 numbers right?
So in 12 turns, for example, do we know what happens? And in 24? And in 36?
Because vaddis talks about even turns 4-8-12-24-36.
Has he fixed you ... 4-12, 8-24, 12-36?
I just want you to see it for there, because even some who believe they are doing vaddis do not, they only found balance in a complete cycle, but the marquee is only 12 ...

You gave very good thoughts... Thank you Friend .i will do think more... Hope you  keep giving your thoughts  .Passion.🍹

[Elite]

Hi Friends... I m still in because I believe there can be something more powerful.even tired and blank mind as
u can  see  my last gameplay  results  I can  say that  minimal  benefit is by  luck  ..
If  I summarised    vaadi  system... It's
based in  improved accuracy. Using 7 or  8...
only thing left is  how he achieved that. Based on  pairing singles  doubles.. Etc.... Thanks for everyone who  give  valuable inputs  .6th sense. Passion roulette. Bigbro Ben. Proof read Irish.. My  little  knowledge  is  all  because  of  you  and  this  forum..... Steve tq

[jono1167]

i now have Buffalo Wizards demonstration of your system in an Excel sheet and it looks like it reached 170 units with a high of 247 over 314 spins.  It appears my sheet is working correctly, so if people just want to post some Wiesbaden spins, i can process them pretty quickly.  No more need for manual testing this one.  I just have to figure out how to get charts from my online Microsoft Office to this website.  If you still have your spin data and want to post them up in a text document, i'll double check everything.

Great work Still. Hopefully people can send through spin data. I would be really interested to see a lot more results. We’ve only just scraped the surface with testing.

Please share results when you get them. I’m sure there will be some bad sessions on the horizon.

Cheers

[Elite]

[quote author = Elite link = topic = 15824.msg223740 # msg223740 date = 1551283308]
HI Passion thanks for info, hope to hear more on 24/8, 12/3 and pairing, is pairing should be sequential or how, thanks man
[/ quote]

You already know what is 24/8 and 12/4 right?
Now you know that and he says you look at the marquee, the marquee has 8-12 numbers right?
So in 12 turns, for example, do we know what happens? And in 24? And in 36?
Because vaddis talks about even turns 4-8-12-24-36.
Has he fixed you ... 4-12, 8-24, 12-36?
I just want you to see it for there, because even some who believe they are doing vaddis do not, they only found balance in a complete cycle, but the marquee is only 12 ...

HI passion, if able to see in those range spins will  vaadi system will be completed or  will still need more ?

[buffalowizard]

Nice work Still. Here is yesterday's table 2 at Wiesbaden.


20       
28       
10       
       16
       7
       5
33       
       34
11       
       14
20       
29       
       9
       36
       1
       21
-   -   -
31       
20       
15       
22       
31       
31       
-   -   -
       3
       32
10       
22       
       25
       7
       32
22       
26       
       19
10       
       18
-   -   -
       25
       12
33       
       36
       19
17       
17       
17       
       34
   0   
22       
       32
-   -   -
       25
       14
8th       
31       
       18
       9
       9
28       
       30
6       
4       
       23
       34
4       
4       
17       
-   -   -
11       
6       
6       
       32
33       
       5
4       
       23
       30
       21
33       
15       
4       
       18
       25
       32
       27
28       
-   -   -
8th       
       27
       3
       30
       18
       9
       18
       27
2       
24       
6       
       12
       12
10       
       19
22       
13       
31       
-   -   -
17       
33       
       36
31       
       18
       3
       36
       14
       5
33       
       16
24       
10       
       30
       3
28       
-   -   -
       5
20       
       12
   0   
       30
11       
       16
13       
       32
31       
       3
       36
8th       
       30
   0   
       3
13       
26       
-   -   -
       3
17       
       9
       19
       12
4       
13       
       27
24       
       27
       23
22       
4