Nice little earner!!

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul397,
Thanks for your kind words and also your ideas.   I have stuck with `nle` as it works, though sometimes a bit erratically win wise.

The 5 units that you refer to was not after the ten losses.  After 10 losses bet was 13 units size (not total stake)  The 5 units would have been the next bet when I packed in betting and I had recovered losses and gone back into profit.  I do not always fully record my playing history because I am playing `live` on-line and you only have 20 seconds to think and place bets.  I can see with you that if it is $5 min. then you are staking quite an amount.   Have you never or ever thought about playing on-line?  Obviously no atmosphere unlike real casinos

Some on-line casinos accessible in the UK have minimum stakes of equivalent 1 cent/5 cents/10 cents so if you are trying out some new idea or small BR it does not need to cost very much.
Good luck,     Brian

[mogul397]

Hi Mogul397,
Thanks for your kind words and also your ideas.   I have stuck with `nle` as it works, though sometimes a bit erratically win wise.

The 5 units that you refer to was not after the ten losses.  After 10 losses bet was 13 units size (not total stake)  The 5 units would have been the next bet when I packed in betting and I had recovered losses and gone back into profit.  I do not always fully record my playing history because I am playing `live` on-line and you only have 20 seconds to think and place bets.  I can see with you that if it is $5 min. then you are staking quite an amount.   Have you never or ever thought about playing on-line?  Obviously no atmosphere unlike real casinos

Some on-line casinos accessible in the UK have minimum stakes of equivalent 1 cent/5 cents/10 cents so if you are trying out some new idea or small BR it does not need to cost very much.
Good luck,     Brian

Hi Brian,
Several things.

1) I know you've stuck with NLE.  And I don't suggest that you change. But wonder what you mean by being "iratic"
win wise. A session is either won of lost. Unless you mean that you bail a session with a smaller than expected profit.

2)Still don't understand what the 5 units means.  But it tells a story that you would have been up to a 13 unit
bet in the betting series.  One could say, for example, that martingale is a worthwhile method of play. But honestly
even if it were proven a winner somehow with the progression levels needed, I wonder how many people would
ACTUALLY play it. I think that there are methods around that work.  Izak (link:://:.letstalkwinning.com/) has several of them,
but it is difficult to see yourself playing at the levels that bets can get to.

It's an interesting road test to be playing with $1.  $13 doesn't seem like as much.  But at some point you want some
ROI, and you need to make a bet to do that.  To make it worth while.  Otherwise, you might as well just play sim.

3) I haven't played online. I have heard a lot of negative things about it, and just haven't done it. Most/all of my
practice play even in the real casino is paper play. I have practiced online sim. But every person that I've talked to
related to online playing has had a bad experience. That doesn't mean it's my only criteria.

But it makes me wonder if that's what you're doing, then how you could be so pressed for time on this if all you have to
do is sit down at a computer at light speed.

I"ll also add that the "airball" machines that I now have available are a real ball spinning, and also only allow about
20 seconds to make a bet before "no more bets". That is good in the sense that the game moves on. But don't
kid yourself that you have a unique situation when you post here and talk about it.

I am (and have been) in "test" mode.

4) When I feel relatively confident that I can have some kind of shot at winning, then I will play. I will have no
problem playing with necessary money a) to actually get some return for my time and b) because I have the
confidence level that I will achieve something (or at least get back my loss in a reasonable time).

5) But what I continually see is a hodge podge of results from looking at the ">2" series, as it applies to the
D'alenbert.  The order of occurance of (for this example) "doubles"  seems repetitive and consistent enough
to merit playing an opposite Dalenbert.  Where you increase +1 after a win and -1 after a loss, to a certain
pre defined win goal.

Be careful now.  When I think if this my head regresses back to looking for that "+1 unit profit".
If you were playing a normal negative progression, you'd thing nothing of getting stuck deep into a
series trying to dig out.  It also seems so easy to feel like someone is on the other side of the table
intentionally making you have losing streaks and preventing winning ones. That is not the case.

So playing and accepting 1 unit losses for a while will take a very long time to add up to the inevitable
TOTALS that you will achieve by making the Dalenbert losses, actual gains. To win a series.

And if you just have to chop it up into smaller ones then so be it. You will have 2 or 3 shorter winning series.
But the math is much stronger AGAISNT you. WHy not turn it in your favor?

Because as I say, all I see are shit shows that set up from the mish mash of results.

[mogul397]

And one last thing. I find the idea of betting on two EC choices at once very bad for
a few reasons.

First, mathematically it is confusing and I don't think it does any good or accomplishes anything.,

Two, I checked the lines that had more that one bet and a large % had them. Like 1/3 to 50%.
Enough to be disruptive.

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul397, 
When I said erratic I was referring to the amount won.  eg.   5 units sometimes - 30 units other times. 

The bad `live` experiences that you have heard of are almost certainly where people were playing RNG.  I NEVER DO.

As regards the 5 unit issue.  after 10 losses betting 13 units.(tenth bet)   I am playing +1/-1  This is not actual from that session but imagine that it went:   14 13 12 13 12 11 10 11 10 9 8 9 8 7 8 7 6 5  Now do you see.  I packed in here (in profit)

You might think that I would have plenty of time to play but let me tell that it is just not so. I am semi-retired but work about 30 hours per week.  There are 168 hours in a week.  Deduct off sleeping 56 hours.  work 30 hours  TV 20 hours reading newspapers/magazines and doing crosswords 25 hours  eating/preparing 14 hours shower/shave etc. 7 hours  shopping 7 hours  pub 8 hours.  LEFT 1 hour.  Fit in mowing 2 large lawns/gardening.  DIY  visiting friends/family  holidays I am amazed that I can fit in 1 hour for playing roulette and posting (only this forum) Are you sorry you asked?  Sorry folks, I know that this is not about roulette.  Will answer some of your `others` next post.  (If I have time!!!!)   

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul397,
I forgot to allow for 14 hours per week for on-line banking, ordering goods, surfing, reading e-mails and general internet stuff.  Give me back my needed extra 20 hours.

Cheers,       Brian

[RouletteGhost]

Hi Mogul397,
I forgot to allow for 14 hours per week for on-line banking, ordering goods, surfing, reading e-mails and general internet stuff.  Give me back my needed extra 20 hours.

Cheers,       Brian

[mogul397]

Hi Mogul397,
I forgot to allow for 14 hours per week for on-line banking, ordering goods, surfing, reading e-mails and general internet stuff.  Give me back my needed extra 20 hours.

Cheers,       Brian

Even when I was busy, I didn't slice the pie like that.  Much of the stuff that you have in time boxes "just happens".
You box everything in like you are trying to exclude something.

[bleep24]

Hi Mogul397,

Yeah it does just happen, but all those` happens` add up to a lot of hours a week.  I could miss out lots of those things but it would be a very dull and boring repetitive life and there are lots of things which I do  that I have not included which sometimes replace those (just like everyone else on this planet)

Anyway, last night I got in about 1 hour of play and won 28 units after returning from the pub for a meal.   My excuse.   (Got a bit of time available as my wife is away visiting my daughter) Just been told that she will not be back till next Thursday so I can indulge one of my other passions - steam locomotives and railways.  Hurrah.

Regards,    Brian 

[mogul397]

Hi Mogul397,

Yeah it does just happen, but all those` happens` add up to a lot of hours a week.  I could miss out lots of those things but it would be a very dull and boring repetitive life and there are lots of things which I do  that I have not included which sometimes replace those (just like everyone else on this planet)

Anyway, last night I got in about 1 hour of play and won 28 units after returning from the pub for a meal.   My excuse.   (Got a bit of time available as my wife is away visiting my daughter) Just been told that she will not be back till next Thursday so I can indulge one of my other passions - steam locomotives and railways.  Hurrah.

Regards,    Brian

I'm still not on board with you being unique as far as time goes.

So when you play you are playing on the computer online?

[nottophammer]

 :twisted:Think this is going a bit limp bizkit

[bleep24]

Hi Nottophammer et al,

Yes I was thinking the same myself and was just about to call a halt to any more posts on this topic.  I will just get on with playing `nle` and winning.

Cheers to all,       Brian       

[nottophammer]

Good luck BRI
OH yeah, you wont need it, LOL.

[bleep24]

Hi Nottophammer,

Is that Lots of Luck - Lots of Love or Laugh out Loud.     hahaha!!!!!!

Brian

[Chrisbis]

All Three!

[Tomla021]

good luck Blipitty Bleep---continued success